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    I'm totally obsessed with this right now. It just seems so brilliant.
    I was curious though, with all the ladies saying that they only do incall, how many of you are actually doing it in your own home? Renting a separate permanent space is crazy expensive but I would be freaked out having those guys all up in my sanctuary. But a studio apartment can be a good $700+ how do you guys handle it?

    Im also finding such a huge difference between what I read here and what I'm reading on the myredbook forum. Those guys are talking about things like the Indy ladies getting in the shower with them and washin them, or curling up and smuggling after and I'm like. Ummmm how about you just get a massage and a hj, take a shower by yourself and get out?
    I know it's just one little demographic of hobbyists in california but it was interesting.

    So massaging naked and snuggling or showering with your clients? Any of you guys doing this?

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    I worked for a parlour - I was nude during the massage and HJ. I didn't shower with them.

    We also had spas so mostly I would just jump in the spa with them and sit on their laps and chat, rub their arms and get lots of compliments before a quick massage and HJ. Then they were out the door

    Personally I wouldn't feel safe being alone with them in an apartment - especially not my home. Their stronger than me and know it. We had phones, cameras, security etc and they knew it and towed the line

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    Ya a lot of parlours in my province are the spa kind as well. I guess I was thinking of it more from an Indy provider point of view, where it's not a spa set up but they get in the shower with them an wash them. (I just can't see myself doing that). Honestly I think I'd be a bit of a prude lol. Strictly lingerie, maybe a topless option for more money but never naked because I don't want them getting any stupid ideas about trying to touch my kitty.
    No body slides, but I wouldn't mind mutual touch. They could touch me while I massaged them just stay away from my no no zone.
    Ugh and don't put your mouth on me.

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    Reviews do tend to exagerate. I used to get told all the other girls do X Y Z and you should blow me too. I just said no and giggled. If they pushed it I just stopped and stared at them blankly. It worked!!

    I'd suggest saying 'Your here to recieve a massage' and don't let them massage you. If they want to play with your boobs and touch from the waist up only. Keeps it easy. I liked to emphasize - gently.

    I never did body slides.

    MMm you go have a shower and get nice and soapy, I'll just set up. And then undress for you...

    My place included ten minutes of free shower time on top of their booking so they could relax and enjoy a nice shower. just be busy while they are showering?

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    Pfffft free shower time, I heard about that. Never gonna happen. The time they book is the time they get. Because I see body rub as a "paying for my time" type thing as well. If they arrive at your in call for a 1 hour session at 3 o'clock and want to take a shower first that's fine but the clock has started. Want to shower after? That's fine 2 just be out by 4 o'clock. Just like if you went to see a registered MT.

    I love you guys telling me about how things went for you. It's so interesting and it helps me to really nail down what I think I would or would not be comfortable with.
    Indy would for sure be the way to go for me. Getting to lay down my own rules. And also being able to state up front on my site what I was about would probably help weed out the guys that wanted more, simply because Canada allows for a bit more transperancy.

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    Pfffft free shower time, I heard about that. Never gonna happen. The time they book is the time they get
    I'm one of that little demographic in CA that's sessioned with a lot of myredbook women. Just from a client perspective on what you read there, 99% of the time, "the time they book is the time they get" is the practice here in CA also. There are plenty of providers doing the cuddling after-care or showering thing, but in either case, the client is still walking out the door an hour after they walked in (if that's what they booked). I personally don't like the showering thing and almost always turn it down, since there are nooks and crannies that I want to get squeaky clean, and I don't need the my bodyrub goddess seeing that Not trying to talk you into or out of anything, just clarifying what you were reading -- all those activities definitely happen and are easy to find here, but are all part of the customer's time.

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    Oh no worries. I guess what I meant was there is no way I would get in the shower with anyone one and even if they were showering alone to get clean first, too rights they would still be on the clock. I just wouldn't be any type of FBSM girl simply because to me if I were to do that I might as well just be an escort. And have everything just be all inclusive.
    I like the idea of rub, tug, done. Don't get me wrong, I DONT mean that I wouldn't be very elegant and sensually etc etc. But I would want for what I DID do to be so accomplished and perfected that they wouldn't mess all the "extras" that I personally wouldn't want to do if I were just a body rub provider.

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    Gotcha. There's definitely something to be said for a great "rub, tug, done". I have some guesses on why SF's FBSM has become a little more broad in what encompasses the experience (and, IMO, the current state is embraced by both sides of provider/client), but that's neither here nor there.

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    Ya for me my "extras" are things like being a fantastic conversationalist and a lovely glass of wine. But honestly, the body rub providers where I am are a COMPLETELY different breed from what I was seeing on RB. By the look of most of the local ads my demeanor alone sets me apart. But whatever, I'll take it if I can be seen as a cut above just by being myself. 99% of the ads in my area are horrible spelling, grainy out of focus cell phone bathroom selfies that I would be too embarrassed to put on Facebook let alone use as advertising. That's just the reality of what's on offer where I am. And I'm kind of thankful for that.
    It will take less effort to look AWESOME.

    Also a note on portable massage tables. Lots of ladies were saying that they don't take tables to hotel out calls because it's to "obvious". Ummmm wouldn't you just look like a standard mobile massage therapist? Wear comfy clothes to travel, get changed in the room, then change back into your street clothes when you leave? You would look totally legit.

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    Ya for me my "extras" are things like being a fantastic conversationalist and a lovely glass of wine.
    Fantastic conversationalist goes a looooong way everywhere

    But honestly, the body rub providers where I am are a COMPLETELY different breed from what I was seeing on RB. By the look of most of the local ads my demeanor alone sets me apart.
    Just to be clear, while it's easy to find all kinds of things like cuddling and showering here, there are plenty of women who just compete with just an awesome offering of great personality, skilled massage, very sensual sensual. I can't resist giving my little theory about what's going on in SF: you can tell something is odd (in a good way) just by reading myredbook: every forum is dominated by clients, who enforce a redbook-is-for-the-clients ethic and often say reprehensible horrible things about providers, EXCEPT the FBSM forum, where providers participate and are welcomed (aside from the inevitable few trolls) and the group constantly self-tunes to keep providers feeling safe and welcome. FBSM clients kind of romanticize FBSM and enjoy these really personal intimate offerings, and reward FBSM providers by paying them well more than AMP girls make (and those AMP girls are doing FS) and as much or more than the bottom-tier escorts, all for just a happy ending. And the FBSM providers reward the clients back by coming up with clever ways to make the experience better -- and keep clients paying the premium for FBSM when they could spend far less to get full service at an AMP or with an escort. Ironically, sometimes guys who just want a simple & quick rub-and-tug bemoan the fact that it's not easy to get here at a super low price, since SF-style FBSM isn't as conducive to that.

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    I was actually really surprised at how low a lot of the "high" prices that were quote on the polls and in threads. Around here it's very much $160-$200 per hour at average. Ladies that present themselves as classier (very rare but it's there) seem to be around $200-$250. Like I said just different market AND different economics I guess.
    That's one of the reasons why I think a smart, elegant and discreet woman could set herself up really well around here. Message boards also aren't really a "thing". And what couple you find arnt well populated. Blessing? Curse? Bit of both? Who knows. But they just aren't big like the states so you don't have a ton of clients gatherers together whipping themselves into a frenzy trying to drive prices down because "it's not worth it".

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    Massage parlor may be a good fit for you!

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    Carrying a table is a pain in the ass. You'll do it once and probably never want your table again!
    ( I have lots of massage experience across the spectrum )
    I don't do fbsm where I am, but if my personal situation and location were different, I might.

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    Yeah, no parlours for me. It's like webcam, once you've had someone else manage your money once you know when all you want to do is be Indy and never have to worry about anyone but yourself. Complete and utter power over myself, and my choices that's what I like. Probably why I make such a good Domme.

    And the work of carrying a table is honestly better than trying to figure out $800 a month on a separate studio for rent and electricity that's for sure! Lol. I'll just have to repeat the mantra "It's this or $800, it's this or $800!!" especially as I have a full time vanilla career and this would be part time.

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    In my opinion people should go in those erotic massage parlors who offer the best service along some other extra facilities, in Australia lots of agencies are doing the same activities with additional offers.

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    At the AMP I'm at , I just give the owner / mamasan $20 an hour or $30 90 minutes. It's $4.50 to park my car.
    I place my own ads / set my own prices. I'm rarely there anymore ( prefer out call since I work in a place with tons of luxury resorts ).

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    Oh that sounds fab then. That's practically just a room rental fee! So something like that I could TOTALLY work with!

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    Didn't read the whole thread, and this pertains to escorting more than body rubs, but lots of ladies prefer their client to be 'freshly scrubbed', but dudes are reluctant to take time out of their hour to shower, hence they invite the lady to hop in with them. Problem solved, guy's parts get clean, guy is happy and lady keeps her appoint on schedule...
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    I understand the compromise but I simply refuse to hop into the shower with them.
    It's not like you shower when you go to get a standard massage. So I figure it's their if they CHOOSE to use it before or after but as its not mandatory if they choose to use it it's part of their allotted time.
    Like escorting, "you're paying for my time".
    I've never understood the whole "it's not an hour of time, it's an hour on the TABLE", mentality.
    In that vein, so do you mean to say that you can also sit and chat for 15 mins with a glass of wine and then still expect to get an hour on the table on TOP of that and then an a shower after. So you could be there for a good hour and a half even though you booked an hour?
    Sorry, no.
    Book the actual time you need.

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    I work for a parlor, for a 60 mins appointment we deduct 5 mins for the shower before the massage and 5 mins at the end, before they leave. The first shower is required, and after he massage it is up to the customer whether he wants to shower right away or at home.

    Even if he insists on not showering, or says he already showered at home, I only stay for 50 mins, sometimes I would go a bit over the time when it's a regular, to finish a conversation but I try not to. Most of the time, the clients don't argue with you and they take a shower.

    In my case, I don't mind showering with some of my best repeat clients but not every time they come. Sometimes if we finish 15-20 mins too early, I ask them if they would like me to massage their body for the time left and if they say decline, I would suggest taking a shower together but I don't go in completely, I don't get my face or hair wet. You don't have to do it if you don't want to.

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    Ya, I guess showering together is just one of those activities that make me say "if I'm going to to this I might as well just be an escort. I just don't think that the only difference between FBSM and escorting should be FS vs not FS. I feel like there should be more of a distinction between the two services. But I also feel the same way about the differences between escorting and professional domination.

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    Showering is so stupid! I have had people ask too and there's no way in hell. I do my makeup One Time for the day . So showers / no mugginess from bathroom. Blech.
    Just say you have a " delicious routine " in mind that you'd like to try and they will usually drop it and shower alone ( as it should be !).

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    I'm in Florida but can find small office space here for 300+ or find a cool therapist who doesn't mind sharing their Incall with you. Things in the fbsm world has definitely gotten mixed up.... people are confusing sensual with sexual.There's gfe bodyrub girls,FS bodyrub girls & quote on quote the massage ho's . I'm with you in regards to the sensual bodyrub then handshake ending, but there are so many women doing all the extras that more & more clients expect the next provider to do the same.NEVER do anything you're not comfortable with, always be firm & upfront with the clients so there's no miscommunication & provide the best damn sensual session ever-Great reviews help a lot as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arialandre View Post
    I'm totally obsessed with this right now. It just seems so brilliant.
    I was curious though, with all the ladies saying that they only do incall, how many of you are actually doing it in your own home? Renting a separate permanent space is crazy expensive but I would be freaked out having those guys all up in my sanctuary. But a studio apartment can be a good $700+ how do you guys handle it?

    Im also finding such a huge difference between what I read here and what I'm reading on the myredbook forum. Those guys are talking about things like the Indy ladies getting in the shower with them and washin them, or curling up and smuggling after and I'm like. Ummmm how about you just get a massage and a hj, take a shower by yourself and get out?
    I know it's just one little demographic of hobbyists in california but it was interesting.

    So massaging naked and snuggling or showering with your clients? Any of you guys doing this?

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    In my opinion, clients don't want to spend their time taking a shower alone because they think it is a waste of their time. The growing competition nowadays make it harder for some of us not to add extra services because more and more clients expect us to do the same. However, you can always say no if you don't feel comfortable with the idea. Most clients would understand based on my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmen_b View Post
    Showering is so stupid! I have had people ask too and there's no way in hell. I do my makeup One Time for the day . So showers / no mugginess from bathroom. Blech.
    Just say you have a " delicious routine " in mind that you'd like to try and they will usually drop it and shower alone ( as it should be !).
    The spa I started with, everyone showered before and after with their clients. So for me this is the norm. But I immediately did not like the idea for that reason. I still do it to the day, now that I'm Indy... I budget the first and last 10-15 minutes of the session for chat, dress/undressing, And shower time. No one has ever complained and it cuts down on and makes table time go by faster. The only drawback... I take around 10 showers a day (2 per client), which really aggravates my eczema.

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