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    I've been talking with others as well as constantly researching the market, and one person suggested that I might be underpriced for my image - I know $320/hr is safely midrange in my area (Tampa / Orlando), but 70% of my appointments are multihours and something's got to change because the volume just isn't there right now. I'm flirting with bumping up to $500/90 minutes, if nothing else because I'm consistently going over time in hour long appointments.


    Dropping rates, when you're already trading on class and intelligence and using a Veda site, feels like it would be suicide. Just got my first review and on P411 this week, after trying to make a no review policy work when I started. I'm just wondering if I'm completely out of touch here - underpricing is usually the $50 special on Backpage, not a high-end girl operating at midrange rates. I feel that 'midrange' is almost a sort of hellhole where demand is inelastic, where you're not getting the high volume of Backpage girls but you're also not getting the Veblen Good effect either.


    What are your thoughts on such, if any?
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    I find that to find your sweet spot in your rates you have to ignore backpage as part of the market and focus on ladies who have professional websites and are in your price range or a little higher.

    For me I am keeping my minimum at $250 an hour. I have to ignore all the selfie backpage ads and focus on what I want for myself. I am learning that to keep up with the $250 an hour I need to spend a lot of money in advertising and also consider visiting cities that are short travel in my area.

    If 70% of your business is multi-hour I think you might want to market yourself that way. you might not volume but you will probably get quality clients you enjoy being with. Since being independent is more about creating value and experience.

    the money part is a hard one to calculate since the industry has changed a lot with the backpage ads almost acting like a farmers market.

    I think now the whole industry is about making youself stand out as your own brand instead of some cookie cutter listing on backpage.
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    I find that to find your sweet spot in your rates you have to ignore backpage as part of the market and focus on ladies who have professional websites and are in your price range or a little higher.

    For me I am keeping my minimum at $250 an hour. I have to ignore all the selfie backpage ads and focus on what I want for myself. I am learning that to keep up with the $250 an hour I need to spend a lot of money in advertising and also consider visiting cities that are short travel in my area.

    If 70% of your business is multi-hour I think you might want to market yourself that way. you might not volume but you will probably get quality clients you enjoy being with. Since being independent is more about creating value and experience.

    the money part is a hard one to calculate since the industry has changed a lot with the backpage ads almost acting like a farmers market.

    I think now the whole industry is about making youself stand out as your own brand instead of some cookie cutter listing on backpage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    I find that to find your sweet spot in your rates you have to ignore backpage as part of the market and focus on ladies who have professional websites and are in your price range or a little higher.

    For me I am keeping my minimum at $250 an hour. I have to ignore all the selfie backpage ads and focus on what I want for myself. I am learning that to keep up with the $250 an hour I need to spend a lot of money in advertising and also consider visiting cities that are short travel in my area.

    If 70% of your business is multi-hour I think you might want to market yourself that way. you might not volume but you will probably get quality clients you enjoy being with. Since being independent is more about creating value and experience.

    the money part is a hard one to calculate since the industry has changed a lot with the backpage ads almost acting like a farmers market.

    I think now the whole industry is about making youself stand out as your own brand instead of some cookie cutter listing on backpage.
    How professional is professional for a website? There are lots of ladies with websites; I can only think of six in my area with sites comparable to my own, but I also haven't surveyed each and every local escort's site, just the ones that advertise next to me. Lots of self made stuff and lower end pro stuff of dubious quality.

    How much is 'a lot' in advertising? Locally, I can't think of any options aside from playing the TER game, P411, Eros, and Backpage. VIP on Eros is hit or miss, as are the secured placements. I want to like Slixa, but in terms of cost per website view, they're twice to thrice as much as Eros is. I think I'm ready to start seriously touring but I'm also scared of it not working out. My ad bill for this month is $150, but I have no qualms blowing upwards of $500/month on ads if it readily produces results.

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    I advertise on backpage, have been for a year and a half now, and I charge $200/hr. Yeah, a lot of the guys that contact me are cheap and either hang up or decline, but most nights I can get at least 2 calls for $200 from backpage and that's starting after midnight. I have made $1000 in one night from taking backpage calls and never had a problem. But I understand that it's not for everyone.

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    Wow good for you! I think when it comes to pricing where you are located is the biggest factor to consider.

    Quote Originally Posted by Julianapleases View Post
    I advertise on backpage, have been for a year and a half now, and I charge $200/hr. Yeah, a lot of the guys that contact me are cheap and either hang up or decline, but most nights I can get at least 2 calls for $200 from backpage and that's starting after midnight. I have made $1000 in one night from taking backpage calls and never had a problem. But I understand that it's not for everyone.

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    I have never gone down with my rates before but I had to for now because I was using CL in Switzerland for a while.
    WOW, I am surprised that now as I went down to 250CH/per hour from minimum 500CHF I have so many attractive young guys. I am 29 and most of ten are younger or my age and it's a lot of fun because Swiss men are polite and polished.
    We are kind of stupid sometimes. High price doesn't always mean "HAPPY WORK."
    I am used to wealthy, older men who book several hours but let's be honest here: Who is really into sagging skin and older guys?
    They can be nice and usually generous but hell, they are sometimes so boring and you constantly need to complement them because in fact they need to hear that they are still attractive to a younger woman.

    I am a bit confused today because I rather have pleasure with 2 attractive guys making the same amount with someone I would definitely not date if he wasn't wealthy.
    I always tried not to sell myself cheap but at the moment I guess I have to think things through...

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    I have never gone down with my rates before, however, 2 weeks ago I had to because I was using CL in Switzerland for a while (my website wasn't ready).
    WOW, I am surprised that when I lowered my rates to 250CH/per hour from minimum 500CHF I started to have so many young attractive guys. I am 29 and most of my bookings were younger or around 30 (of course, because which student can afford high-class rates?) and it's so much fun because Swiss men are polite, well-groomed and polished anyway. I think in other places it might be different though.
    We are kind of stupid sometimes. High price doesn't always mean "HAPPY WORK."
    I am used to wealthy, older men who book several hours but let's be honest here: Who is really into sagging skin and older guys?
    They can be nice and usually generous but hell, they can be so boring sometimes and you constantly need to complement them because they actually want to hear how they are still attractive to younger women.

    I am truly confused at the moment because I always tried to raise my rates and even 500CHF felt to low. At my best I worked for 1000 Euros an hour but that was through an agency, later I kept my rates but didn't have as many clients as before (yes, some agencies are amazing--I moved away and the agency is too far away). I rather have pleasure with 2 attractive guys making the same amount of $$ than with someone I would definitely not date if he wasn't wealthy.
    We are always trying not to sell ourselves cheap but t I guess sometimes we have to think things through...
    What does cheap really mean? We are all scared to seem cheap. I am sorry to say that I tried to be a stripper but I hated it and I felt most girls were selling themselves cheap as a stripper because they dance their ass off for hours and many don't make quite the money they claim today. The BIG stripper times are over.
    I personally feel that exposing yourself naked to hundreds of people in public is degrading --and after this hard work you rarely can make 1000 a night. But again, it really depends on the person because many stripper girls find escorts cheap and try everything to remain "clean" from physical stuff.
    It depends on what you enjoy and who your ideal client is, so we all must think how much do the people spend you want to attract. Can you deal to have intercourse with 10 guys each night or do you need intimacy and exclusivity.
    You have to be a real sex addict to become a successful escort, you need to love it and see the person behind every client. I have to admit, all the bullshit about high-class escorting...the dates and dinners and all this blabla...it is fun for a while but a lot of mind fuck, too.
    It is a lot of money, yes and very tempting, but the best times I had were in a pace called Babylon in Vienna which wasn't paid as well as escorting. But that was the way I loved to work. You could see and choose your clients, there wasn't too much mind fuck and it still seemed high-class (but a lot of attractive guys with a healthy psychology could afford it, too). I loved this place, unfortunately it has changed completely and it's full of Russian men at the moment.

    So literally, it can be far more enjoyable to just sit in a hotel and meet guys without all the fake shit you have to do as an escort, and you might be happier at the end of the day.
    I find it so hard to pretend I like a guy when I actually don't.
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    Isabella, you hit the nail on the head! very true, now that I think about it, most of my clients are in their 20s and 30s(last night I had a 19 year old client). I agree, it is way easier to give better service to a guy that is closer in age(well, more attractive, I guess haha). Last night, my first call was a 57 year old man and it became really hard to pretend at the 2nd hour. He kept trying to kiss me all passionately and I would just peck him on the lips and try to focus on another activity/distract him in some way(I will kiss some guys if I don't mind or want to).

    When I first learned about escorting, I heard that it was all old ass fat men, and not that much fun. But that has not been true for me. I always wondered why most of my guys are young, probably 90%. Occasionally, I run across an older gentleman, and true, they usually can pay more. But I've always charged $200/hr, and I will do a half hour for $100. That's $100, so that's good to me Bc when I first started escorting, I used to have to give half of my $200 anyways. But, I will NEVER go under that. Because it doesn't feel to me that it is worth the job or driving anywhere for less than that. I guess since I advertise on backpage, I get the slightly cheaper, younger guys. But that's totally fine with me. I also think it is easier Bc I am working for myself, so I only have to answer to myself. There are pros and cons to that, but mostly pros!

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