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    Does anyone else have long commutes? The longest I had to commute to dance was 4 hours one way, but I'll spend the night with relatives and work the weekend before going back home. Tomorrow I'm planning to commute 2:45 hours one way and planning to work about a double when I get there.

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    Default Re: How long are your commutes?

    Obviously this depends on the actual definition of a 'commute', versus 'road trip'.

    When I was still actively dancing, I sometimes drove 10-12 hours to a distant club with a high earnings potential ... but then work an entire week at that club without much additional mileage. Financially speaking, I would figure ~50 cents per mile actual cost for ( eventual ) mileage related auto expenses, the total extra miles involved, etc. to arrive at a 'cost' for the trip. I would then compare the potential AFTER-TAX earnings I was likely to make at the distant club, versus the AFTER-TAX earnings available at a local club. Sometimes the calculation would indicate that the trip to the distant club was 'worth it'. However, many times the calculation would indicate that I would actually be money ahead by working close to 'home'.

    The primary 'fallacy' is that most dancers ( or anybody else facing major mileage ) fail to account for the 'long term' mileage related auto expenses eventually coming home to roost. Thus a 'short term' oversimplified view might indicate that an extra $200 in club earnings potential is 'worth' an extra $40 worth of gasoline plus an extra 4 hours total driving time. But this ignores the fact that the eventual additional costs involved to replace tires and brakes, to repair more frequent vehicle problems, to have to spend additional money when trading cars due to the much higher mileage on the vehicle being traded in, etc. are going to be as high or higher than the cost of gasoline alone. And this also ignores the fact that, of the extra $200 in 'gross' earnings, the dancer is likely to only be able to 'keep' $150 of that money after taxes.

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    Oh man, I don't know if I could do that.
    My club is about 13 miles from my current place... it takes 40 minutes or so max in traffic.
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    ^I worked at a club that was an hour to an hour and 20 minutes by bus from my flat and that was too much for me, I could never do 4 hours..

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    It takes me exactly one hour and 15 minutes. I'm laying in bed dreading it right now.

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    Default Re: How long are your commutes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Sometimes the calculation would indicate that the trip to the distant club was 'worth it'. However, many times the calculation would indicate that I would actually be money ahead by working close to 'home'.
    Considering I live in probably one of the worst economic areas in the country, and I'll quote you on this from lurking one of your older posts, I'd rather take the I-87 south!

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    Default Re: How long are your commutes?

    You touch on some noteworthy 'indirect' issues ...

    How much extra money will you wind up spending on 'fast food', at a convenience mart, etc. because the 4 hours worth of additional drive time leaves you with no extra time beyond eating, sleeping, driving and dancing ?

    How much dancing earnings are you going to wind up leaving 'on the table' because your personal energy winds up being depleted before the club closes / your shift is over ?

    Also, per IRS tax court rulings, even driving 100 miles to a workplace and another 100 miles back cannot be claimed as a 'business expense' tax deduction without having corresponding receipts proving an overnight stay ( i.e. hotel bill ). The IRS considers any direct trip from 'home' to a place of work and back 'home' again to be a non-deductible 'commute' ( as opposed to a tax deductible business trip ).


    I'd rather take the I-87 south!
    Indeed, this provides much better odds of producing enough additional earnings to 'pay for' the travel ! PS it's even less expensive to take Amtrak, which follows the same route !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Also, per IRS tax court rulings, even driving 100 miles to a workplace and another 100 miles back cannot be claimed as a 'business expense' tax deduction without having corresponding receipts proving an overnight stay ( i.e. hotel bill ). The IRS considers any direct trip from 'home' to a place of work and back 'home' again to be a non-deductible 'commute' ( as opposed to a tax deductible business trip ).
    Is this specific to dancers? My civilian friend is an IC at her job which involves driving around to different job sites in several counties. She never stays anywhere overnight but she does keep detailed records of all her mileage and food purchases. She got to claim $0.28 per mile and some percentage of the food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    PS it's even less expensive to take Amtrak, which follows the same route !!!
    I actually live much closer to the I-81. There is no Amtrak in my area. There is a bus, but round trip costs roughly the same as a round trip in gas. And I'm spoiled, I can't be without my car.

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    I drive about 45 mins for Double Visions but it's worth it.
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    Default Re: How long are your commutes?

    My civilian friend is an IC at her job which involves driving around to different job sites in several counties. She never stays anywhere overnight but she does keep detailed records of all her mileage and food purchases. She got to claim $0.28 per mile and some percentage of the food.
    If a dancer did the same thing ... i.e. driving from home to club 1 to club 2 to club 3 and back home again ... she could claim the mileage between Club 1 and club 2, and the mileage between Club 2 and Club 3, but not mileage from home to Club 1 or from Club 3 back home again.

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    Before I moved to Tampa, when I lived in Orlando I'd drive to Tampa (about 2.5 hrs) to work. But in that scenario I'd also get a hotel for 3 nights and just work a ton of hours during those days. Now that I'm in West Palm Beach, I typically drive anywhere from 7-20 minutes depending on which club I wanna go to that night. It's kind of nice being in the middle of a variety of clubs. If I drive down to Miami to work, with traffic it's about 1 hr and 30-45 minutes.

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    I've never worked continuously more than 15 minutes away from home. I have done "road trip" jobs where I booked a room and stayed for a week. Right now I live where there is only one club in a 3 hour radius and I'm not about to move any further away, even though the rent would be cheaper, I just hate wasting time driving and spending money on gas.

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    My club is almost exactly an hour from my house and I have to take a bus, then a train, then a tube. If I drove it would take twice as long.
    Not a lot compared to some of you, but when I danced in Bournemouth I lived a two minute walk from the club, so it feels like a really long commute now!

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    ~20 minutes on the way there in traffic, 10 on the way home when the freeways are empty. I've worked a few places where I had between a thirty to sixty minute commute, but I don't like sitting in my car for that long. My muscles get tight and it makes me feel stale.

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    My longest commute was an hour and a half driving each way. I absolutely despised it.

    My second longest was a little over an hour by train (up to an hour and a half if I missed my transfer). This was much easier than the driving, but always started to think "dark thoughts" as the minutes ticked by waiting underground with weirdos late at night.

    Right now my commute is only 27 minutes by train with no transfers and it's fantastic. Just enough time to do all my makeup on the way there, short enough that I don't get bored or uneasy on the way back.

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    25-40 minutes. i could work at a club that is 10 minutes away, but the money sucks.
    the longest i've ever commuted was 2 hours 15 minutes away ( with bad traffic) but it was way too much for me.

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    About 12-15 minutes on a bicycle.

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    2 hours public transport and hour in ride home.
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    About an hour each way, on nyc public transport. Other than the time it takes, there's really nothing wrong with the efficacy of the commute.
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    I hated commuting on the subways. I don't know how you ladies do it. I got fed up with that crap and bought a truck. Sometimes the commutes were just as bad as the trains with all the traffic, but I liked being in the comfort of my truck with no one bothering me.

    I used to work at a club that was 10 minutes away from my old neighborhood. Loved the convenient location, but was a little weirded out seeing customers in town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azaleanola View Post
    About 12-15 minutes on a bicycle.
    Me too! I keep my bike in the kitchen at the club since there are no bike racks outside.

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    Default Re: How long are your commutes?

    Main club- 25-30 mins
    Second club- 50 mins to an hour.

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    I haaaated commutes - anything over ten minutes. I always thought of commutes as adding money on to my house fee, which it essentially did. Not to mention, it is hard to stay psyched for work when you're driving for 30+ minutes.

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