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    Default Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    Slight rant lol. I'm amazed at how cheap the guys are who sit at the tip rail at Vegas clubs. It really pissed me off lol. Stage at my club is generally pretty good, not always, but it's typically worth the time going up. But the cheap fucks in Vegas at both the Rhino and Palomino were just embarrassing.

    It got to the point where I started throwing crumpled dollar bills at the guys who weren't tipping lol. Cheap fucks lol. Which got me a few smiles from the ladies on stage working hard for their dollars. But seriously if you can't afford to throw a few dollars on stage for every girl who goes up, don't sit at the stage! I feel like every time I go to a Vegas I'm the only one tipping!

    Maybe it's because I dance but it's turned into a pet peeve of mine whenever I go to a club. I always give the girls a minimum of at least $5 to $10 and tip extra for pole tricks or impressive booty work lol. Me and my girlfriend threw $1000 on stage at the Rhino over two nights in early May, building up our stripper karma lol. And I threw a few hundred last night at Palomino with the guy I was with.

    I can understand saving money for lapdances. But if you can't afford to tip, get off the rail. I feel like the cheap fucks encourage other guys to be cheap. Almost like it validates their whole $1.00 (or none) if they see other guys barely tipping. Nothing like the guy holding the $1 and telling you he's gonna make u work for it.

    Anyways. Done ranting lol. And hugs to the Palomino girls. The lap dances were fun last night and the stage sets were entertaining.

    Get it girl! Lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixia View Post
    It got to the point where I started throwing crumpled dollar bills at the guys who weren't tipping lol. Cheap fucks lol.
    You're like a guardian angel of the stage. Thank you!

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    Default Re: Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    so youre not a dancer, just a customer? stage is often not good $, but thats not always the case and i almost always am able to get a customer from my stage which is what matters. we rarely go up more than once anyway. we share the stage with 2 other girls so no offense but 5-10 dollars is still not anything to us. and honestly when girls at the tip rail make a scene like you just described its only appreciated like half of the time, the other time its just obnoxious.

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    Default Re: Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    ^ I thought it sounded hilarious! I would crack up if I saw that.

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    Default Re: Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    When I worked in Vegas, I paid extra to avoid having to go on stage. It's a waste of time at most clubs that offer VIP / Champagne rooms. I wish my current club offered that option.

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    Default Re: Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    Im a dancer and occasionally a customer when the mood strikes me. Which is why I get annoyed at cheap guys who don't tip. I know what it's like to do a stage set for free.

    And 5 to 10 adds up if everyone at the tip rail actually tips. Stage sets at my club during peak hours regularly net girls $150-$200 dollars or more when you get 5 to 10 from everyone and the tip rail is full.

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    Default Re: Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    It's one thing to just not have people really stage-tipping, but I agree that's rude to sit at stage and not tip. When guys come up to stage, I assume they want a little extra attention right in front of them for a tip, so when I get down there and dance for them, and they don't.... it's so rude and cheap. They can go perv from a distance if they don't want to pony up a few bucks for front-row seats.

    I usually just ignore them afterward, but there have been a couple especially pissy nights where a guy said "Sorry, I don't have any money. I'm not tipping," so I informed him that "maybe he shouldn't be sitting at the tip rail then."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora_Sunset View Post
    I usually just ignore them afterward, but there have been a couple especially pissy nights where a guy said "Sorry, I don't have any money. I'm not tipping," so I informed him that "maybe he shouldn't be sitting at the tip rail then."
    Lol. Could you imagine this behavior in any other business? Would these guys sit at a restaurant, eat an appetizer, and when they're presented with the bill say, "Sorry, I was just tasting. I don't actually have any money."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixia View Post
    Im a dancer and occasionally a customer when the mood strikes me. Which is why I get annoyed at cheap guys who don't tip. I know what it's like to do a stage set for free.

    And 5 to 10 adds up if everyone at the tip rail actually tips. Stage sets at my club during peak hours regularly net girls $150-$200 dollars or more when you get 5 to 10 from everyone and the tip rail is full.
    youre a dancer at rhino? like i said, i actually work here full time and i doubt you do because 5-10 dollars is nothing especially when you split between you and 2 other girls. there are plenty of good stage sets but even the ones i make no tips from i still make money when people are not distracted by girl customers causing a scene at my tip rail and can actually focus on me. this club is all about rooms so stage money is just icing on the cake. I regularly payout $150-200 in fees plus tips so even with that kind of stage money i would just break even, so id much prefer the customers settle down and non spenders get out of the way so the people who are going to spend decent money actually have a chance to instead of leaving to go to a club thats less rowdy.

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    Default Re: Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    Yeah, that's my biggest pet peeve is when guys sit at the tip rail and don't tip. Honestly though it annoys me just as much when management doesn't say shit. About 5 months ago I had five guys sitting at the tip rail in LA not tipping-- and it wasn't just me because they had been there for an hour and not tipped anyone and we were all getting pretty pissy. I knocked someone's drink over, like totally shattered the glass, and honestly it WAS a complete accident. I didn't even realize it because I was purposely not looking at them after dancing for them for a song and not getting shit, and someone else was tipping at the other side. When I got off the stage the DJ told me I should go apologize for knocking over the drink and I said he should say something over the speaker about how if you're going to sit at the tip rail you should tip. There was another DJ who would ALWAYS say something if customers didn't tip, but this one looked at me like I was crazy and said "they paid the cover. They can sit wherever they want. I'm not going to do that." I was so insulted and stiffed HIS tip that evening. See how it feels to not get tipped motherfucker, it sucks doesn't it?

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    Default Re: Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    I dance in CA, not in Vegas. And yah I understand all the money is in rooms and lap dances.

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    Default Re: Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    This is why I don't really do much on stage. I'm not going to do pole tricks and risk injury when the money is shit. I dance a little, pose and scan the crowd to identify targets.

    I usually give all my stage tips to the DJ. LOL That's how bad they are. But the DJs appreciate it, it takes care of the money I'm supposed to be tipping them anyways and then they're nice to me and that makes my job easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixia View Post
    I dance in CA, not in Vegas. And yah I understand all the money is in rooms and lap dances.
    i also dance in ca and trust me the clubs are way different. in ca i would pout and bitch about guys not tipping but in lv thats not how it eorks and we all know that. and im.perfectly fine dancing onstage and looking great and not making a dollar because i know a good spender will spot me and grab me. you really are in no position to judge the customers and their cheapness until you actually have worked at a club and know how it works. just read through the rants on this board from girls who have actually worked here, its all about the asshole hosts, disorganized bachelor parties, aggressive girls, not "omg every night those fuckers at the front row dont tip enough!!" because as far as we are concerned, theyre wallpaper, and it really gets on our.nerves when girl customers decide to disrupt that tranquil unmoving wallpaper.

    just because you dance somewhere else doesnt mean you will be treated like a peer at another club. your still a customer, and girl customers are a major distraction to our real customers.

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    ^^^
    Um, I dance in Vegas and I think it's an asshole move to sit at the tip rail and not tip. Because it is. It's basic strip club etiquette that if you're going to sit there, you tip, even if it's only a buck.

    She did nothing wrong and I don't see how she was distraction to the "real customers" when she spent a grand in the club. That doesn't seem fair to say to her at all.

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    Charlotte, if a female customer egging guys on to tip is what is taking the spot light away from you, you should probably do something different on stage/ with your look. Just a suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
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    Um, I dance in Vegas and I think it's an asshole move to sit at the tip rail and not tip. Because it is. It's basic strip club etiquette that if you're going to sit there, you tip, even if it's only a buck.

    She did nothing wrong and I don't see how she was distraction to the "real customers" when she spent a grand in the club. That doesn't seem fair to say to her at all.
    i dont disagree that people at the rail should tip, but girl customers throwing money at them throws off the vibe. and she said she spent a combined grand with her friend over 2 days so while thats great, harassing customers causes a scene that is less appreciated by us than the tips. instead of engaging negatively with male customers, why dont you pool your tips each set for one girl onstage whos friendly and engage (appropriately) with her. the other customers will get the hint and tip more. $10 to one girl is much bettert than 5-10 spread across all 3 and it will absolutely encourage a better spending atmosphere.

    we also need to keep on mind that lv attracts a disproportionate amount of foreigners who arent used to the tipping culture along with guys who came ready to spend $ on dances but were forced to sit at the tip rail because all the tables were taken. often those guys are waiting to get change back so they can tip (which could take 45 min) or theyre just finishing a drink and are about to get up to go to vip. like i said, lv is much different and its not fair to demonize cheap tip rail guys like you would at other clubs. either way, its never appropriate for girl customers to draw attention to themselves.

    btw in lv they are serious about "working girls" (for lack of a better term) so its especially in your best interest as a girl customer to fly as under the radar as possible to avoid getting rudely kicked out. i see this happen all the time and part of me feels bad because these girls were just normal girls at a strip club but at the same time-this is a strip club and the worst thing for our money is if it becomes more and more okay to become like a nightclub, where girls and guys interact regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcatxbrownx View Post
    Charlotte, if a female customer egging guys on to tip is what is taking the spot light away from you, you should probably do something different on stage/ with your look. Just a suggestion.
    it about the scene. i barely spend any time onstage but its equally frustrating when theres some commotion going on over there and the guy im sitting with gets distracted. even if we both try to block it out you cant ignore it.

    and like, wow, someone posts how they came to my club and may or may not have been disruptive and rude and i respond constructively on how my club operates and the response is that maybe i should change how i operate at work to accomodate a rude customer? should i start lowering dance prices and do extras too? lol

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    Default Re: Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    i don't think she was trying to be rude, i have no idea how LV operates, but i'd be happy to have the cheapskates pretty much called out where i work! its happened a few times, and i've been grateful..male or female. i've wanted to do it so many times myself, but don't feel the club would back me up at all.
    plus it wasn't like she was flirting with them, or getting up and trying to dance sexy at the stage or anything. even if its only 5 or ten bucks, i appreciate a customer at least showing the courtesy to tip. guys not tipping is basically stealing. whether or not they want to take you out back afterwards or not, they aren't paying for the show they are already getting.
    but yeah, i don't feel she was trying to be rude at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlotte. View Post
    i dont disagree that people at the rail should tip, but girl customers throwing money at them throws off the vibe. and she said she spent a combined grand with her friend over 2 days so while thats great, harassing customers causes a scene that is less appreciated by us than the tips. instead of engaging negatively with male customers, why dont you pool your tips each set for one girl onstage whos friendly and engage (appropriately) with her. the other customers will get the hint and tip more. $10 to one girl is much bettert than 5-10 spread across all 3 and it will absolutely encourage a better spending atmosphere.

    we also need to keep on mind that lv attracts a disproportionate amount of foreigners who arent used to the tipping culture along with guys who came ready to spend $ on dances but were forced to sit at the tip rail because all the tables were taken. often those guys are waiting to get change back so they can tip (which could take 45 min) or theyre just finishing a drink and are about to get up to go to vip. like i said, lv is much different and its not fair to demonize cheap tip rail guys like you would at other clubs. either way, its never appropriate for girl customers to draw attention to themselves.

    btw in lv they are serious about "working girls" (for lack of a better term) so its especially in your best interest as a girl customer to fly as under the radar as possible to avoid getting rudely kicked out. i see this happen all the time and part of me feels bad because these girls were just normal girls at a strip club but at the same time-this is a strip club and the worst thing for our money is if it becomes more and more okay to become like a nightclub, where girls and guys interact regularly.
    I understand what you're saying, but I really don't think she's a "look at me" kind of girl customer, I know exactly what girls you're talking about and it sounds like she was genuinely trying to help out the girls onstage. Also I don't understand how her pushing guys to tip onstage is making the club more like a nightclub, if anything she's pushing them to act MORE like they're in a strip club.

    Even if a guy is just sitting at the tip rail because he's waiting for another table, he should still be tipping. He doesn't have to make it rain with a $1,000 but he should be throwing a few bucks on the stage. Perhaps you don't care about that, but I think a lot of girls do. It's not really about the money, it's the principle of the situation. And her pushing foreigners to tip is a good thing, IMHO, because if they really didn't understand the concept of tipping, well now they do.

    Also, where in CA do you work that you make so much money onstage and expect to be tipped? I worked in Cali for years and never made shit onstage.

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    Default Re: Rant: Stage money is awful in Vegas. Cheap fucks.

    ibrary in CA. But it's more of a party atmosphere than a strip club which is why stage pays pretty well during peak hours. We've got girls swinging from the ceiling and flying to the pole, walking on the ceiling, a fair amount of decent pole dancers, ex break dancers spinning on their head lol and other entertainment. Lapdances is still where the $ is at, but the two songs you dance up there rarely pays less than $40 so it's always worth the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixia View Post
    ibrary in CA. But it's more of a party atmosphere than a strip club which is why stage pays pretty well during peak hours. We've got girls swinging from the ceiling and flying to the pole, walking on the ceiling, a fair amount of decent pole dancers, ex break dancers spinning on their head lol and other entertainment. Lapdances is still where the $ is at, but the two songs you dance up there rarely pays less than $40 so it's always worth the time
    Hey Trixia this is off topic but how long have you worked there? When I used to work in OC I always wanted to try it but never did. A customer who loved to make it rain at my club said he always went there too so I can see how getting on stage would be worth it!

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    6 months or so.

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    We have a vid of one of our girls on the pole on the library's facebook page. Gives a pretty good idea of the atmosphere our club has lol.

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    That's it. I've had it. The guys at my club aren't tipping on stage either.

    I think I'm going to start just standing there with my hand on my hip, and give the universal "I need to be tipped" sign (when you rub your fingers together).....and if they still refuse to tip, then cross my arms and give the angry look. If still, no tipping...then give the finger to the ones watching for free. Then go up to them after my stage set, and demand the tip I never got. I'm gonna become a mean, demanding bitch who shames them into tipping me. I'll let ya'll know how it works out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixia View Post
    We have a vid of one of our girls on the pole on the library's facebook page. Gives a pretty good idea of the atmosphere our club has lol.
    you need a password to watch it

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