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    I work in a club where extras are not allowed what so ever. Especially in the club. Also all the local hotels by the club rat girls out all the time.

    So tell me why this girl who I got fired for f***ing with my money then had the nerve to throw it up in my face gets rehired after I got her fired?????

    I mean I don't "hate" extras girls but there are other clubs in my city where that is more appreciated. Not my club.

    The night I got her fired, I didn't flip out on her because fighting is looked down on even more and I have a good reputation for being mild-mannered and
    cool with the managers without having to suck their d*cks. This girl was giving a guy a low key hand job in the PUBLIC regular priced dance room then had the
    nerve to tell me "OMG girl there is money out there you should be getting some!!!" proceeds to count her hundreds in front of me with a twatty smirk on her face.
    I flipped my f***ing sh*t. I went to the manager right away and told him what was up. I told him exactly what I saw and told him none of the girls are making money because this cunt is giving handjobs and the security willfully ignores it because she is actually pretty despite being a despicable person.

    "I'm leaving. I'm making no money thanks to whores."
    "Well that doesn't explain much. Stop being dramatic."
    "Maybe I wouldn't be back here bitching if BITCHES didn't get away with giving handjobs in the dance room."
    "***** Do you see how small the camera screens are in here in the manager's office I can't pay attention to 30 3 inch screens all at once especially when we have BOUNCERS
    who should be doing their jobs and keeping that under control also I'm taking care of VIP customers, credit card transactions etc alone with no floor hosts to help me out. So who was doing it?"
    "Doesn't matter you guys won't fire her because she has natural big titties and makes money."
    "Don't be that b**** who gets me, you and everyone else in trouble because you are defending the girl who's f***ing your money."
    I tell him her name.

    "HAHA F--- that b---- she doesn't tip us out. She's gone.
    She gets fired.


    New manager hires her back. And this is the really strict uptight manager. The other manager is severely displeased. But has no say because he was demoted for being to "mean" to girls.

    I'm treated like a leper again because I don't have fake titties. Or it could all be in my head. Girls with implants make more money. But I sell champagne rooms without implants and have made really decent money. It's just a bad month and getting worse now that I have to compete with extras girls again. I'm getting really fed up.
    If she solicited to an undercover cop all of us get taken in. I don't want to be part of any of that. I'm tired of being treated like a leper for being a B-cup. I am trying to save for implants because I have been wanting them for 6 years, dancing for 1 yr one month. I'm not ugly. I have a nice body and a pretty face but I still get shit on.

    The new manager is supposed to be really strict and doesn't choose favorites. He will be a complete dick to all the entitled bitches but cordial and nice, nothing more to girls who are polite. I hope he fires her soon or my fears can come true and she will stop being nasty inside the club and just start doing it more low key.

    I'm sorry to sound whiny but I'm overdue for a vacation under extreme financial stress and am feeling really ugly and undesirable because of it. I made OK money last night but it barely covers anything.

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    your boob size probably doesn't have anything to do with it..its probably your insecurity of your boobs that is. back when i was skinny, i hated my body and thought " if only i could gain weight and have an ass and boobs i would make so much more!" well, 35 pounds heavier, i'm not making more.
    lots of men love little boobs. i repeat, its not your chest that's the problem! maybe you're too stressed out right now because of the extras bitch and money, and its coming out in your interactions with customers.
    as for the extras girl, it sucks but you've tried and there's nothing you can do but completely focus on yourself and your own hustle..or try and find an even cleaner club. you've done your best, but now i think it will probably seriously bring you down to dwell on it anymore.

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    ^Agreed. I have tiny boobs and always have, I'm an A/B (I always wear an A cup though so they look a bit bigger!) and guys compliment me on my boobs all the time. It's about how you carry yourself. I act like my boobs are just as good as everyone else's and they believe me. If you act like you have the hottest chest in town, they'll think you do too. Keep your body in shape, make sure the rest of you is bangin and you'll be fine. I've danced for years with tiny boobs and never had an issue. Yes, there are some customers out there who will REFUSE to dance with a girl who isn't at least a C cup, but honestly those aren't the kind of guys you really want to be getting dances from anyway. You want to be getting the guys who are buying dances from you because they're drawn to your personality, your confidence, etc. Those are the kind of guys who are going to buy VIPs and spend real money and come back routinely (this may not apply if you're in a wanna dance club). Guys who just want the girl with the biggest fakest boobs are just going to buy a couple dances and once they've seen enough of the fake boobs go home. If you really want fake boobs and you get them you might see an increase in money, but I really think that's going to be more related to the boost of confidence you get, not the fact that your tits are bigger. Also, there are so many fake boobs in clubs that I think it's refreshing for guy's sometimes to see someone with natural boobs.

    I do understand where you're coming from though, I'm saving up for a boob job at the moment, and I expect to see an increase in $ when I get it. But, I know I look great without it, and that's the attitude you have to project if you want to do well.

    And I'm sorry to hear you're having issues with extras girls, unfortunately that's the way that business has become. It sounds like she's already on thin ice, if you really want her bounced the next time she's giving a HJ tell a bouncer and get her caught in the act. But I really think you're better off just ignoring her, or moving to a cleaner club (definitely do the latter if you're worried about a raid).

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    My tits look ambiguous so I can pass them off for big naturals if that's what they want. My tits do everything that real ones do...except sag when the bra comes off. (One SW member I've worked with has the BEST natural rack on a skinny chick that I've ever seen) Ain't gonna lie, I make more money now with my fakes. I still made money with my real ones but it wasn't as easy. Until you get your tits you're stuck in IBTC land. Step up your game like a big girl or find another club. Simple.
    And the grass isn't always greener (at least for day to day shit.) I have trouble finding stuff that fits me well. Most of my stuff has to be tailored. Going shopping with friends all I ever can buy is barrettes, earrings and belts.
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    "Doesn't matter you guys won't fire her because she has natural big titties and makes money."
    "Don't be that b**** who gets me, you and everyone else in trouble because you are defending the girl who's f***ing your money."
    I tell him her name.

    "HAHA F--- that b---- she doesn't tip us out. She's gone.
    She gets fired.


    New manager hires her back. And this is the really strict uptight manager. The other manager is severely displeased. But has no say because he was demoted for being to "mean" to girls.

    I'm treated like a leper again because I don't have fake titties. Or it could all be in my head. Girls with implants make more money. But I sell champagne rooms without implants and have made really decent money. It's just a bad month and getting worse now that I have to compete with extras girls again. I'm getting really fed up.
    While I'll agree with Tempest that breast implants help dancers make more money under virtually all situations, in this case it doesn't sound like relative breast size had anything to do with the situation you describe. Instead, the issue of handjobs likely has far more to do with it.

    The new club manager probably realizes that this 'extras' girl draws additional customers into the club, thus generating additional revenue for the club as well as additional earnings for the 'extras' dancer. The new club manager probably also realizes that, if LE were to take action against 'extras' being offered inside the club, that it will be the dancers and not the club staff who will be directly impacted. Thus the club has much to gain by hiring back the 'extras' dancer, and little to lose other than having to listen to 'clean' dancers bitch.

    Or put another way, club rules against 'extras' are becoming little more than a legal formality. As clubs find their costs of doing business ( like property taxes, energy costs, alcohol costs etc. ) rising, while at the same time finding that total customer spending is falling, the clubowner's 'prime directive' is to find ways to keep the club operating profitably. Tacitly approving of dancers offering 'extras' ... which both attracts additional customers thus creating additional cover charge and drink revenues, as well as creating additional revenues for the club via VIP / private dance percentages on a larger number of VIP / private dance sales by 'extras' dancers ... is now a 'win-no lose' situation for clubs in 'real world' terms.

    In this situation, would a DDD cup 'clean' dancer be less affected than a B cup 'clean' dancer by the presence of a D cup 'extras' dancer ? Probably, to some degree at least. But the larger issue is dancers offering 'extras' versus not offering 'extras', thus generating high revenues versus not generating revenues for the club. If the situation also revolves around a 'fixed' number of dancers on the schedule, and if club management is looking to maximize club revenues by bringing in more 'extras' dancers, a B cup 'clean' dancer does stand a higher risk of being fired than a DDD cup 'clean' dancer.
    Last edited by Melonie; 05-25-2014 at 06:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutoniangirl View Post
    I work in a club where extras are not allowed what so ever. Especially in the club. Also all the local hotels by the club rat girls out all the time.

    So tell me why this girl who I got fired for f***ing with my money then had the nerve to throw it up in my face gets rehired after I got her fired?????

    I mean I don't "hate" extras girls but there are other clubs in my city where that is more appreciated. Not my club.

    The night I got her fired, I didn't flip out on her because fighting is looked down on even more and I have a good reputation for being mild-mannered and
    cool with the managers without having to suck their d*cks. This girl was giving a guy a low key hand job in the PUBLIC regular priced dance room then had the
    nerve to tell me "OMG girl there is money out there you should be getting some!!!" proceeds to count her hundreds in front of me with a twatty smirk on her face.
    I flipped my f***ing sh*t. I went to the manager right away and told him what was up. I told him exactly what I saw and told him none of the girls are making money because this cunt is giving handjobs and the security willfully ignores it because she is actually pretty despite being a despicable person.

    "I'm leaving. I'm making no money thanks to whores."
    "Well that doesn't explain much. Stop being dramatic."
    "Maybe I wouldn't be back here bitching if BITCHES didn't get away with giving handjobs in the dance room."
    "***** Do you see how small the camera screens are in here in the manager's office I can't pay attention to 30 3 inch screens all at once especially when we have BOUNCERS
    who should be doing their jobs and keeping that under control also I'm taking care of VIP customers, credit card transactions etc alone with no floor hosts to help me out. So who was doing it?"
    "Doesn't matter you guys won't fire her because she has natural big titties and makes money."
    "Don't be that b**** who gets me, you and everyone else in trouble because you are defending the girl who's f***ing your money."
    I tell him her name.

    "HAHA F--- that b---- she doesn't tip us out. She's gone.
    She gets fired.


    New manager hires her back. And this is the really strict uptight manager. The other manager is severely displeased. But has no say because he was demoted for being to "mean" to girls.

    I'm treated like a leper again because I don't have fake titties. Or it could all be in my head. Girls with implants make more money. But I sell champagne rooms without implants and have made really decent money. It's just a bad month and getting worse now that I have to compete with extras girls again. I'm getting really fed up.
    If she solicited to an undercover cop all of us get taken in. I don't want to be part of any of that. I'm tired of being treated like a leper for being a B-cup. I am trying to save for implants because I have been wanting them for 6 years, dancing for 1 yr one month. I'm not ugly. I have a nice body and a pretty face but I still get shit on.

    The new manager is supposed to be really strict and doesn't choose favorites. He will be a complete dick to all the entitled bitches but cordial and nice, nothing more to girls who are polite. I hope he fires her soon or my fears can come true and she will stop being nasty inside the club and just start doing it more low key.

    I'm sorry to sound whiny but I'm overdue for a vacation under extreme financial stress and am feeling really ugly and undesirable because of it. I made OK money last night but it barely covers anything.

    BTW this website rocks!!!!

    Wow. You have a lot going on up there in that noggin of yours.

    You are paying way too much attention to other girls... to their "twatty smirks"... to what other girls are making and why other girls aren't making money... etc.

    You have so much jealousy, hate, and rage that I don't even mind you venting here. At least it will be out of your system.

    Get yourself together. Make your money. Stop comparing yourself to others. Stop worrying about whose boobs do what. Don't pay attention to twats or smiles... pay attention to dead presidents, lonely customers, and opportunities to bank instead of getting distracted by other strippers.

    Challenge yourself to improve your hustle or switch to a club where you can do better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    While I'll agree with Tempest that breast implants help dancers make more money under virtually all situations, in this case it doesn't sound like relative breast size had anything to do with the situation you describe. Instead, the issue of handjobs likely has far more to do with it.

    The new club manager probably realizes that this 'extras' girl draws additional customers into the club, thus generating additional revenue for the club as well as additional earnings for the 'extras' dancer. The new club manager probably also realizes that, if LE were to take action against 'extras' being offered inside the club, that it will be the dancers and not the club staff who will be directly impacted. Thus the club has much to gain by hiring back the 'extras' dancer, and little to lose other than having to listen to 'clean' dancers bitch.

    Or put another way, club rules against 'extras' are becoming little more than a legal formality. As clubs find their costs of doing business ( like property taxes, energy costs, alcohol costs etc. ) rising, while at the same time finding that total customer spending is falling, the clubowner's 'prime directive' is to find ways to keep the club operating profitably. Tacitly approving of dancers offering 'extras' ... which both attracts additional customers thus creating additional cover charge and drink revenues, as well as creating additional revenues for the club via VIP / private dance percentages on a larger number of VIP / private dance sales by 'extras' dancers ... is now a 'win-no lose' situation for clubs in 'real world' terms.

    In this situation, would a DDD cup 'clean' dancer be less affected than a B cup 'clean' dancer by the presence of a D cup 'extras' dancer ? Probably, to some degree at least. But the larger issue is dancers offering 'extras' versus not offering 'extras', thus generating high revenues versus not generating revenues for the club. If the situation also revolves around a 'fixed' number of dancers on the schedule, and if club management is looking to maximize club revenues by bringing in more 'extras' dancers, a B cup 'clean' dancer does stand a higher risk of being fired than a DDD cup 'clean' dancer.

    I agree with both you and tempest. Implants help. I've seen B cups like me who make from 300-800 a night go to 500-2000 a night just by getting implants. Personality helps too I can talk an eskimo into buying ice but I think my insecurity shows through hard core. I just don't know how to change it without getting implants. I'm 5'9 135lbs. and have nice ass. My face is pretty but I just want to be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Wow. You have a lot going on up there in that noggin of yours.

    You are paying way too much attention to other girls... to their "twatty smirks"... to what other girls are making and why other girls aren't making money... etc.

    You have so much jealousy, hate, and rage that I don't even mind you venting here. At least it will be out of your system.

    Get yourself together. Make your money. Stop comparing yourself to others. Stop worrying about whose boobs do what. Don't pay attention to twats or smiles... pay attention to dead presidents, lonely customers, and opportunities to bank instead of getting distracted by other strippers.

    Challenge yourself to improve your hustle or switch to a club where you can do better.

    I wish it was that easy but being treated like I'm deformed isn't much help to the stuff going on in my noggin. Maybe you have never experienced what I have and are probably prettier than I am.

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    This is me.. I'm not a leper I just feel like one. Not sure why. Probably Burn out. I overwork myself and am in so much debt.

    On the bright side I'm taking a vacation to Europe in August and September and I'll probably come back much happier... Just 2 more months ^.^
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    You're certainly not ugly and you don't look fat. I agree that it's burnout and it's in your head. Get away from that club. You're skinny (or appear to be anyways) so you shouldn't have an issue getting hired anywhere. Can you travel dance?

    At the end implants are just tools. I've met plenty of top earners that don't have them. Last night at my new club there was a founding member of the IBTC (A cup is being generous) who was racking up as many dances as me and my enhanced set. She was cute and always smiling.

    Work on yourself before you get some funbags.
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    Once I take care of some bills. I'm going to try travel dancing. I like new scenery.

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    They're treating you like you're deformed? Honestly you are giving these customers way too much power over you. There are a lot of customers who come to the SC because they need to feel better about themselves and so they put us down. When I returned to dancing after a break in the fall, I was 5'5 and 105 lbs and my third night in I had a customer tell me I needed to get a tummy tuck because when I leaned over there was a "pudge." To say this man was fat would be kind, he was disgusting.

    I don't give credence to anything a customer says, whether it's an insult or a compliment. If someone says something negative about your boobs move on. But I honestly think you're getting more flack from customers because of your attitude, not your boobs. Work on that, not your cup size. You might be disappointed when you get implants if you don't.

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    you are a beautiful girl. you have no reason to be down on yourself about your looks

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    Yea. I wanna say, when I started dancing I was shocked @ all the guys who liked/commented positively on my lil' A/sm.B boobs. Also, I appeal to the leg/ass man. People will try to knock you down, whether its' co-workers (reg. jobs too) customers or what ever!


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    yup, after seeing your pic it's a virtual certainty that this was about 'extras' not cup size !!!

    I'm not sure what 'market' you're working in, but based on your observation regarding increased earnings for fellow dancers, and your own self-image issues, breast implants might be worth considering. If nothing else, they may counteract the apparent advantage now held by 'extras' girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutoniangirl View Post
    I wish it was that easy but being treated like I'm deformed isn't much help to the stuff going on in my noggin. Maybe you have never experienced what I have and are probably prettier than I am.

    I say this with tough love... nothing snarky.


    You’re incredibly… and I mean INCREDIBLY!!! ….Insecure.


    That insecurity is running you ragged.

    You are really negative. The words you use in these posts… words like LEPER, DEFORMED, expletive, expletive, expletive, PRETTIER, UGLY, DESPICABLE, etc….that is just the tip of the iceberg.


    I wouldn’t want to hear your inner monologue. It is undoubtedly brutal.


    (Gosh, this sounds harsh… so I am sorry… but it’s best that you see it).

    As an entertainer… you are a black hole of frustration. If you think customers can’t see your micro-exressions, the way that you dart your eyes around a room, your wavering self-consciousness, and body language… YOU ARE WRONG! No matter how much you mask it, if you are stuck in your head, it’s still plain as day to other people. No, they can’t read your mind… but they can sense that something is amiss. People that are "a bit off" aren’t enticing.

    You need to build confidence and inner strength if you expect to float above the scum in this industry. Yes, it takes a lot of effort… yes, you’ll have to overcome your knee-jerk reactions and instincts, yes, it’s difficult.

    Seriously. You are very attractive. You need to know that. Enough with the insecurity.

    You are all alone in the club… there is nobody else… your co-workers are invisible to you. Some customers may miss out on your affection/talents because they are oblivious… you don’t need them anyway. On to the next one. If your club is constantly full of oblivious customers, you’ll need a better place to practice your business. On to the next one. If stripping continues fucking you in the head as it seems to be doing currently, you will need a new path in order to maintain sanity. On to the next one.


    It is your job to put all of your doubts aside. It is your job to quiet the voice in your mind and BRING IT to the stage. It is your job to convince customers to pay you. Stripping is a job. It is HARD work. It's physically, emotionally, and mentally draining... but it's the job that you chose. And I know you want to succeed. So find that strength and confidence within yourself or from the posts on here and give it your best shot.


    Change your attitude and reap the rewards.
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    Can I suggest a Book? The Power of Self Confidence, by Brian Tracy. If you don't care to read, he has numerous Youtube vids.


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    Probably is insecurity. I've struggled with it my whole life. I nitpick everything about my appearance. I just don't know how to stop.

    Thanks for the suggestions.

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