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    Default CASTING CALL: Seeking Exotic Dancers to be Featured on New Docu-Series

    Are you a professional dancer with a story to tell?

    The Bloody Bombshell Entertainment production team is currently casting for its reality docu-series BEYOND THE POLE. The premise is to feature exotic dancers from across the country both on, and off, the stage. The project will also feature an all-female production crew and creative team.

    If you?re interested in having your story told, we want to hear from you! We don?t care how gritty or how unconventional. We?re looking for the standard to the extreme.

    CLICK HERE to submit.

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    Default Re: CASTING CALL: Seeking Exotic Dancers to be Featured on New Docu-Series

    I have a pet alligator, a pet crocodile, 5 snakes and big tits. Unconventional enough for you?
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    Default Re: CASTING CALL: Seeking Exotic Dancers to be Featured on New Docu-Series

    What is the pay for this??

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    Default Re: CASTING CALL: Seeking Exotic Dancers to be Featured on New Docu-Series

    Probably "national exposure" and a load of horseshit.
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    Default Re: CASTING CALL: Seeking Exotic Dancers to be Featured on New Docu-Series

    I've done similar things. Wound up getting not only 'national' exposure but 'international' exposure I wasn't even told about ...



    ... but bottom line is I would have earned more money by spending the time doing a couple of extra VIP's instead !!!

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    I kinda figured its more trouble then its worth, just thought id ask...

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    I was going to do eye on America with lisa ling. There was not one club they could find that would let them briefly film in it I would have done it as it was going to be all about me as a traveling dancer and I love lisa ling. There was no pay but the business I'm starting would of gotten exposure. Oh well didn't pan out...

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    I want to add any that I work. I wasn't going to go to some club I didn't travel to work in because In was afraid the only club that would let them do it would be a little unknown hole in the wall and I don't work in those so it wouldn't have been realistic to how I operate.

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    Default Re: CASTING CALL: Seeking Exotic Dancers to be Featured on New Docu-Series

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyBombshellEnt View Post
    Are you a professional dancer with a story to tell?

    The Bloody Bombshell Entertainment production team is currently casting for its reality docu-series BEYOND THE POLE. The premise is to feature exotic dancers from across the country both on, and off, the stage. The project will also feature an all-female production crew and creative team.

    If you?re interested in having your story told, we want to hear from you! We don?t care how gritty or how unconventional. We?re looking for the standard to the extreme.

    CLICK HERE to submit.

    ~The Creative Team
    Bloody Bombshell Entertainment
    Good luck finding any decent club that'll let you film inside it. Unless perhaps it's after hours or something..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    I've done similar things. Wound up getting not only 'national' exposure but 'international' exposure I wasn't even told about ... [snip] ... but bottom line is I would have earned more money by spending the time doing a couple of extra VIP's instead !!!
    Even on broadcast networks, that's the norm for reality show "talent", which is what the cast is called on a reality show. The network logic is as follows: We're spending millions of dollars producing and advertising the show (thus promoting you) on the gamble that your show will succeed. Be thankful for the exposure and good luck capitalizing on it. If your show becomes a rating success, you can ask for more and we will expect to pay you more when your contract then comes up for renewal. But even then, we expect you to capitalize on your exposure more than what you make from the show.

    Some shows pay as little as a couple hundred dollars per episode to their talent for the first season.

    As for capitalizing on one's exposure, it is common for nightclubs to pay a broadcast network reality show "star" $50,000 to just show up at their club for a night. And that's a nightclub and not a stripclub. And then there are tie-in merchandising deals (clothes, perfumes, shoes, you name it) that you'll start to get pitched with the airing of the first episode, if not before since the network will be producing the Hell out of it in promos before it ever airs. Try not to encounter Duck Dynasty products when you go to any store these days. Tie-in merchandising is where the real money is. Millions upon millions of dollars. Oh, and the networks now expect a hefty cut of that too and they WILL get it. They legally own your ass when you sign that contract with them. In their minds, they made you.

    However, most reality shows never make it to a second season. Hell, many don't make it to the end of their first season. Unless you're an elimination competition reality show, your ratings are poor and the show's pulled regardless how many more episodes are in the can. They commonly do this to poor performing scripted TV shows and they cost a LOT more to produce than reality shows.

    As for Bloody Bombshell Productions, I IMBded them. http://www.imdb.com/company/co0282756/ While they do have a lot of projects in development, they don't list a single reality show that they've produced in their filmography. Three problems with that. 1) Everyone in Hollywood has projects in development. It really means nothing. You and I have a dinner conversation about a show concept and right at that very moment, it's a project in development. Get it? 2) What you want to see is them saying they have projects in production. That means a network has not just optioned the show but bought it, given money to the production company to produce it, and the production company IS producing it right now. I see no project listed as in production on their IMBd. 3) Most importantly, they don't list a single reality TV show credit. The world of reality TV is a very small closed club. Everyone knows everyone. Networks don't like dealing with unknown people. In fact, if you pitch them the best idea ever for a reality TV show, they'll commonly tap one of the reality TV production companies they've worked with before to produce it. Even if you have producer credits to your name.

    I've been researching reality TV for years now. I am on great terms with a reality TV production company and have other connections to that industry at the producer level. I've lately been pitching show concepts to that production company. No bites yet but it is a numbers game. You keep pitching until you pitch something they like and think they can sell to a network.

    So here's my guess what BBP might be doing. They're looking for talent to sign an exclusive contract with them (very likely paying nothing for it and it lasting probably six months) and they will then pitch you as the show's talent to reality TV production companies who do have the network connections. They might only be looking for a finder's fee (creator's credit) from the reality TV production company or might want to use their exclusive contract to wrestle themselves a role on the show. If the latter, think "pimp" if they cannot contribute anything behind the scenes. Be sure to have a lawyer read over the exclusive contract before you sign! If they can contribute to the production of the show (writer, camera operator, editor, producer, light tech, whatever), they will use their exclusive contact with you to land themselves those jobs. That's how they get a foot in the door with that production company and then it is up to them to wiggle the rest of their body inside.

    As for the concept they're proposing, it has been done. There have been reality shows based in stripclubs and filmed while the club is in operation. But just to ring another sour note, usually it is the stripclub and not strippers who they sign exclusive contracts with for doing the pitch to network-connected reality TV production companies and/or networks. And if they've done that, the auditions are then local to the club. Not always, but usually. If BBP has such a deal with one or more stripclubs, they should probably say so in a future reply.

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    Good luck finding any decent club that'll let you film inside it. Unless perhaps it's after hours or something
    Indeed this was a problem for the production company that filmed the piece which unwittingly got me high ratings on French TV ( and eventually a little bit of extra money ). To film some decent looking club scenes, I wound up 'calling in a favor' from a clubowner friend in NY ... who agreed to open up his club for filming on a night during which the club was usually closed.


    Some shows pay as little as a couple hundred dollars per episode to their talent for the first season.
    yup, getting involved in such 'speculative' projects essentially amounts to an act of faith, hope, and especially 'charity' on the part of the talent. If the project actually gets 'picked up', then there is a future possibility of earning a bit of real money. But if the project doesn't sell, or sells as a 'one shot deal', you'd have been better off by spending that time selling some extra VIP's !!!

    In my own case, the only ongoing 'cash flow' came from DVD sales ... ... from which I got nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    yup, getting involved in such 'speculative' projects essentially amounts to an act of faith, hope, and especially 'charity' on the part of the talent. If the project actually gets 'picked up', then there is a future possibility of earning a bit of real money. But if the project doesn't sell, or sells as a 'one shot deal', you'd have been better off by spending that time selling some extra VIP's !!!
    First, let me point out something that also smelled fishy about BBP's casting call. They said "The project will also feature an all-female production crew and creative team." That's just odd. I'm sorry but I don't think they can make that call (see below for why) and it makes me wonder if they really understand strippers. If they even know any in real life. I mean professional strippers deal with men being around them all the time. Hell, professional strippers commonly are fully naked and rubbing their entire bodies up against men every night. They know how to handle men. I could be wrong but I sincerely doubt men being in the production crew and especially on the creative team matters to professional strippers. And the creative team won't be traveling with the strippers but be back at the production offices. What are they afraid of? That the camera man will ask the stripper for sex? Oh may! I've never known a single stripper who could refuse such a request. I could be wrong but that sentence just came off as them thinking strippers are frail little things needing protection from big bad men. Anyway...

    Second, never ... let me repeat that ... NEVER pay a production company a PENNY to be on or to be considered for a reality TV show. They ask for money and that is the surest sign they're not legit. They will likely not pay you a penny for signing a six-month exclusive contract with them, but that's common in the industry. The only thing that costs you is you are then not able to be pitched as talent by another reality TV production company. That's it. That's nothing since, unless you're at least a B-List celebrity, no one is beating down your door and pleading with you to make a reality TV show about you anyway. Let them have their six months and wish them the best of luck. Agree to come in and meet with TV network executives if it gets that far. It gets that far and it might really happen.

    The ideal is that the person asking for an exclusive contract with you is an employee or owner of a reality TV production company that has already produced reality TV shows for cable and/or broadcast networks. How do you know they have? Their website will SCREAM about every reality TV show they ever landed on broadcast and/or cable TV network. They'll have video clips of their old and current shows. These bad boys will then make a sizzle reel about you and shop it around to the TV networks. Very possibly a different sizzle reel for each TV network since each network has their own type of reality shows they do.

    However, if they don't have that track record (and BBP looks like they don't), they won't be shopping you to TV networks but to network-connected reality TV production companies who, if they like the pitch, will then shop you to the TV networks. While this isn't ideal, it isn't bogus either. This is how some reality TV shows get created. If this is the case, they will likely just do some quick-and-dirty video taping of you to show to the reality TV production company. Not an expensive polished heavily-edited sizzle reel but simply footage of you talking, showing off your quirky personality, and, in the case of a stripper reality TV show, you actually doing a striptease. This striptease being just enough to prove that you're actually a real stripper and not some housewife who thinks she can strip but can barely walk in platform shoes. And this striptease footage wouldn't need to be shot in a stripclub. Your living room or garage will do. Think family video quality. This is like how attractive women can and should only pitch themselves to modeling agencies. No big expensive glamor photo shoot, but simply some instant Polaroid snapshots ... or, these days, simply some snapshots with an iPhone. The pros can see talent in the roughest of photos or, in the case of reality TV production companies, roughest of footage. If you cannot "pop" on some crappy iPhone footage, you won't be able to pop with a Red camera either. If the network-connected reality TV show then likes what they see, they'll then sign a new contract with you and then show up with their own cameras and take footage for a sizzle reel.

    And if they will be pitching you to network-connected reality TV production companies, ASK what they will be seeking out of the deal. Are they only looking to get a finder's fee and a producer credit? Or are they looking to leverage you for a job on the show? If a job, which job(s) and ask them what credentials do they have for getting that job. Remember, they essentially own you with that six-month exclusive contract so if they're looking to land a job but don't have the credentials to do the job, the network-connected reality TV production company might not go with you because they don't want to hire the one that recruited you. Now if they have no relevant job experience but the job they're seeking is as a "field logger", that's fine. That's an entry level job in reality TV production companies these days. They want that and you're now talking to a newbie who understands the industry and how to break into it. Give him a kiss, sign the six-month exclusive contract, do the iPhone footage, and wish him the best of luck. Honestly, the kid is doing it the right way and that kid will likely get far in the industry because his starting goals are realistic and achievable.

    HOWEVER, it is my "humble" opinion that if a stripper wanted to be in a reality TV show about strippers AND truly profit from it (that's make money and not merely fan one's vanity), she would need to already have a line of stripper costumes as well as signature clothes, jackets, shoes, jewelry, sunglasses, and hats AND in her contract with the show (stipulated even in the six-month exclusive), she only wears her line of stripper costumes, clothes, jackets, shoes, jewelry, sunglasses, and hats on the show. And what I mean by "already have" isn't something that is in development on her part or that she gets to get into production if the show gets picked up, but that she's producing and selling BEFORE she even signs the contract. No, that's wrong. That she's producing right now. They're the stuff she wears in the iPhone footage and then in the sizzle reel.

    Reality TV can truly make you rich BUT only if you realize it isn't from what they pay you but by how they promote what you can sell. Personally, I think being paid to make nightclub appearances is a poor investment of one's time. You cannot clone yourself so you can only make as much as many such appearances that you can attend yourself. Selling products with your name and face on them IS the way to go. Let manufacturers and retail chain stores make you rich.

    Now if I was BBP, what I would do is the following.

    1) Sign up a string of independent stripclubs spread across the continental US. One club for each episode in a season so a new club can be visited by the show each episode. That would then become the tour for the strippers. Thus a six-episode season (the smallest number of episodes a season can usually have) needs six clubs. Many reality shows, though, are thirteen episodes so thirteen clubs. The most episodes a year would be a full season and that's twenty-six ... thus twenty-six clubs.

    2) When the strippers are at the club, it is a special promotion night that's widely locally advertised. Married men who don't want their wives to see them in the club won't show but you'll definitely get plenty of other men who want to see a reality show being filmed and hopefully get on their faces on the show. I bet the clubs will be packed and have lines going down the street. Come the second season and the line outside will go for several blocks.

    3) Have the focus of the show be featured dancers and not merely traveling dancers. Anyone care to take a guess if BBP knows the difference between those two? I'd then probably go with at least four featured dancers: big-tit blonde (like you, Melonie), redhead, black, and Asian. Each have their own unique mind-blowing stage act and jaw-dropping wardrobes. Personally, I'd interview for highly-opinionated, non-self-censoring, loud-mouth pranksters and jokers. I'd also seek featured dancers who have a social cause or charity that has special meaning for them so they're "strippers with hearts of gold". One of them then doing something for her social cause or charity each episode. Yeah, corny but, HELLO!, this is reality TV. Corny does just fine on reality TV as long as it is real corn.

    4) Have them travel together in a brand-new big top-of-the-line all-bells-and-whistles motorhome while towing a trailer that has their wardrobes in its front half and a yellow Jeep in its back half. Each taking turns driving the motorhome. Parking it in a campground and using the Jeep to get around town and to the local stripclub. Naturally, you'd have to line up and sign contracts with as many campgrounds as you have stripclubs for a season, but that shouldn't be too hard. The featured dancers could then sunbath by their motorhome, swim in the camp pool, and sing songs around the campfire. Did I already mention that corny does well on reality TV?

    5) Have the featured dancers compete by how much money each takes in from club patrons each night. Keep a scoreboard and regularly show viewers how they're doing against each other. What they get paid for being the featured dancers added to these totals but as it is the same amount for each, it is the stage tips and VIP rooms where the competition will be. This money tally done to make viewers drool over how much money the featured dancers are making and to give a little sense of competition to the show. Oh, and then the one who had a bad night can bitch about it in the show's confessional segment.

    6) Each episode have the group visit one of their families or dear friends. Big backyard barbeques. July 4th fireworks. Thanksgiving dinner. See! These "evil harlots" have loved ones and weren't born out of a volcano.

    Anyway, that's how I'd do it. Unfortunately, the only networks I could see that could do such a show justice is HBO and Showtime. I mean a show about strippers that doesn't show nudity is simply lame. Like a cooking show that doesn't show food. Another unfortunate thing is that the reality TV production company I have connections with doesn't have connections to either of those networks.

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    ^Fuck girl, I love your corny campfire-travelling strippers reality show idea! Count me in for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odette View Post
    ^Fuck girl, I love your corny campfire-travelling strippers reality show idea! Count me in for that
    Thanks for the compliment!

    But, oh, if only the reality TV production company I do have connections to did have connections to either HBO or Showtime, but, alas, they do not.

    Not saying there isn't a way that I could do it, but I would probably be no better off than BBP. I'd be cold pitching the reality TV production companies that have done shows for HBO and/or Showtime and who don't know me from a hole in the wall. And before I could even do such a loooooonnnnnggggg-shot cold pitch, I would have to:

    1) Get six-month exclusive contracts with as many stripclubs and "nearby" campgrounds as the season would be long.

    2) Get six-month exclusive contracts with at least four experienced, amazing, zany featured dancers who get along with each other (or are willing to sincerely try to get along with whoever else I can line up), would be up for such a tour (and has a schedule that would be open for such), "pop" on video footage as great reality TV talent (this is actually the most important criteria for ANY reality TV show), have a social cause (or charity) that means something special to them (i.e., her dad died of lung cancer so she raises money for the American Lung Association), have lots of normal loved ones around the country that the show can drop in on ("normal" = not strippers themselves), and are already positioned to take advantage of the public exposure the reality show would give them (read the sixth paragraph of my last reply above for what I mean by "already positioned").

    However, I don't think I should discuss MY reality show concept any further in BBP's thread. That would be hijacking their thread. As for starting up a new thread about doing such, I don't want to unintentionally mislead anyone into thinking such would be anything other than a very VERY long-shot (not to mention very time-consuming on my part) so I probably won't. Maybe if more strippers express liking the show idea here in this thread and would be cool with just hypothesizing about it, I'd start up such a thread but ... well, we'll see.
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