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    Default Ways to get the custy into a "trance," and keep him there?

    After a little over a month of dancing, one thing that's become clear to me: the way to make serious bank isn't so much getting the custies to just like me, but to get them to a point where they have no willpower to say no! I'd love to include lots of tactics that will give me an almost hypnotic control over a custy when I go to close a sale, and to get them to keep buying, and continue buying until I've gotten them to empty their wallet!
    I'm determined to get really good at this! Any advice?
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    Default Re: Ways to get the custy into a "trance," and keep him there?

    Getting them real horny works for me, like grinding on them right before you sell a vip, it increases their saying yes a lot

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    I give them hypoxia.
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    Default Re: Ways to get the custy into a "trance," and keep him there?

    you need to slowly get more and more sexy , and seductive, saving your sexiest and most brazen moves for the very end of the dance/VIP. but start off slow, so you keep them wanting more and more and guessing at what comes next!

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    If I want to upsell to VIP and more contact is allowed I tell them they can touch my tits. Works like a charm.
    "Fake tits are like Kevlar. They don't guarantee your chances of survival but they sure as hell improve it."
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    Eye contact. I used to be really uncomfortable with prolonged eye contact with customers, but since I've grown more comfortable with it, I've been able to stack dances by literally just staring into their eyes while running my fingers through their hair, on their chest, over their face, etc. Throw in a few coy glances down to their lips followed by a cheeky smile or giggle and they are yours.


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    Default Re: Ways to get the custy into a "trance," and keep him there?

    breathing heavily on them, moaning very softly in their ears, sexy smiling, lots lots LOTS of eye contact. When Ive got my arse on a customers lap during a dance i like to turn around and do eye contact, so it's like during sex.

    Do it all again during the end part of a dance (earlier too of course), just before you say time is nearly up want to stay longer/ do vip etc etc. \

    If you're uncomfortable with eye contact, look at their nose or inbetween their eyes, most people think you're giving them eye contact anyway.

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    This is easier in some clubs than others.

    This can be a bit risky but, saying something like "sweetie each song is $30 let me know when you've had enough." can keep them in a trance much easier.
    If they don't have to think about taking their wallet out every 3 minutes they are more likely to get more dances. Since I started doing this my strings of dances for gone way up!

    Yes you can get burned bad.
    I find tipping the bouncers well to keep an eye out for guys trying to run helps.
    Also even if you do get ripped it is less often than they actually pay up, still size up your club and the custy before doing it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyaaa View Post
    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    I keep them a little off balance in my approach. I'll start off sweet and normal, but then I'll do something deeply seductive like whisper something a little dirty in their ear, caress their inner thigh, flash them the good bits etc. Then I'll back off and make a joke or go back to normal conversation. I'll go back and forth like this for a couple of songs until they can't stand it anymore. A lot of the times, they will ask me about dances before I ever bring it up. It's become a game of sorts for me to see how quickly I can get him to bring up the private dances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    you need to slowly get more and more sexy , and seductive, saving your sexiest and most brazen moves for the very end of the dance/VIP. but start off slow, so you keep them wanting more and more and guessing at what comes next!
    This.

    Move very slowly and seductively and peel off your clothes slowly instead of just taking them off. It is captivating especially if you can direct his attention to your best assets (e.g. circling your nipples with your fingers, tossing your hair, maintaining intimate eye contact). It allows the guy to visually drink you in and will make a 3 minute song feel like you are stretching it out for longer just for him. I try to move at least twice as slow as the beat of the song to help accomplish this.

    Moving slowly will probably also set you apart. I see a lot of girls move pretty fast when they strip, which is nowhere near as much as a tease as when you move slow and take your time getting naked.

    If you are good at mastering an unspoken connection through seductive dancing (or through sitting/general body language - you don't have to dance the whole time), you won't need an arsenal of cute lines to keep him hooked. This is especially handy when you are doing VIPs. The less said the better. If you feel inclined to talk, just take your time asking questions because most of these guys will often prefer to do the talking. Being a good listener is twice as sexy as being a good talker and will preserve more mystery for you/help hook him in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kissykins View Post
    This is easier in some clubs than others.

    This can be a bit risky but, saying something like "sweetie each song is $30 let me know when you've had enough." can keep them in a trance much easier.
    If they don't have to think about taking their wallet out every 3 minutes they are more likely to get more dances. Since I started doing this my strings of dances for gone way up!

    Yes you can get burned bad.
    I find tipping the bouncers well to keep an eye out for guys trying to run helps.
    Also even if you do get ripped it is less often than they actually pay up, still size up your club and the custy before doing it.
    That IS risky. There are too many freebie hunters in stripclubs these days.

    If you are thinking that way, why not just give him one lapdance (sell that as a taster, and make it good dance) and then on the back of that one, upsell him for a block of time where he pays upfront? You could always say "I suggest you and me continue this sexy session for X amount of time where I can dance for you uninterrupted". You might even consider waiving the cost of the taster lapdance to make him feel more special if he agrees to buying a good chunk of your time. That way, you build rapport/sell more dances with less risk of getting burned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    Eye contact. I used to be really uncomfortable with prolonged eye contact with customers, but since I've grown more comfortable with it, I've been able to stack dances by literally just staring into their eyes while running my fingers through their hair, on their chest, over their face, etc. Throw in a few coy glances down to their lips followed by a cheeky smile or giggle and they are yours.
    This also works in charming people via videos and/or camming. Stare, deep stare into the camera, add a little giggle and BAM everyone is in love.

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    Be the most interesting, beautiful person he has ever met. Find common ground on anything they say, dazzle them with conversation. Make it up as you go along, I know I do and sometimes I surprise myself. I get a lot of men saying "You're so refreshing, it's nice to meet a girl who is beautiful AND intelligent."

    Have a bit of mystery; like if they start asking questions about sex, smile and say "Come on, a girl has to have some secrets! This is only our first date, you know". 90% of the time, they will laugh and let it go.

    Knowing how to read people can go a long, long way. I can literally speak to anyone on ANY subject, even if I know nothing about it. Creating emotional intimacy and rapport goes a lot further IMO than overt sexuality, and lands you higher quality customers. It allows you to work smart, instead of hard.

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    I am comfortable with full contact and touch so I will offer that as an upsell in VIP. You want to give them the illusion that the more they pay the more they get and stop just shy of breaking the rules, law or your own morals!

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    neuro-linguistic programming

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    Drug him. lol aside from that, you have to have tight "game" and hustle. Learn to know when you click with someone and run with that kind of insight..

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    Default Re: Ways to get the custy into a "trance," and keep him there?

    Tipthestripper, NLP is just the kind of thing that I want to get really good at! I've read a little about it, so I get the idea, but I'm not so sure that I'm slick enough to pull it off. What kinds of things do you say and do when you're with a custy that work for you?

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    Ashley, I wish I knew my damn self!! Anything I have ever read on the subject seems geared toward men (ala the PUA community).
    Rapport is important (which is why it is mentioned so many times throughout HH)
    It's really about selling the experience. When you are giving him the best damn time of his life, you are releasing dopamine in his brain. He will get addicted to the feeling you provide and want more and more of you and care less and less about the $$$.
    Your hustle has to manipulate his emotions, and that is something I need help with too!!

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    Eye contact has already been mentioned, but I agree. You cannot underestimate the importance of eye contact. I (no joke) will look into a customer's eyes and think, I am going to take a bunch of your money. Like I'm putting a spell on them lol.

    Self-awareness. If you're trying to make a big sale (ie champagne room or generally making a custo shell out tons of cash for you) you must be at your best and pay attention to detail - look your best from your head to toe from good posture to a beautiful smile or a pouty lip, whatever face looks best on you.

    Be persistent. Don't ask questions that sway them away from how sexy you are. Lure them in and then get to the sale. Make it seem like "no," is not an option to get their minds to think YES; don't ask them if they want to dance; instead tell them we should go to the VIP. Lesser chance of a "no."

    Let them feel appreciated. When they spend a decent amount of money, be thankful and grateful. It will keep them spending to see it makes you happy and you appreciate it.

    Always act like you're having a good time. Even if you're not, the show must go on. That will make them realize they should join you in having a great timme.

    Act like nothing in the world would be better time spent than getting VIP time from you.
    "Rather have my feet hurting than my pockets."

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    Gr8 thread!


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    Been researching this topic a little more recently. I found an affliliate program that wants $47 to teach you these supposed hypnotic obsession phrases. I'm on the fence about whether or not I really want to shell out the $$ for something like that. :-/
    Also been googling speed seduction to see if there is anything applicable. They have something called fractionation i'm still trying to wrap my head around some of these things. They have ALOT of "patterns" and "routines" in the pickup artist community. There is a lot of vocab I was unfamiliar with. But I'm guessing their little mind tricks must work since there in so much info about them and they're basically all based on psychology.

    As far as hypnotizing them a good word to use is "Imagine". You can get their mind thinking about whatever you want them to think about (how much fun we can have, how good it will feel, how happy etc.)
    Also getting him to recall times when he was happiest, most comfortable/relaxed, or most excited - depending on the emotion you are trying to sell him
    then use very descriptive adjectives, innuendo and double entendres the naughtier the better

    *Be a Seductress and master your Feminine Wiles*

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    also found this article http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...ne-do-anything

    1. say please
    2.if thanked, say "you're wecome...+" add something that invokes the psychological principle of reciprocity
    3.getting a verbal commitment psychological principle of consistency
    4. embed your command. This one can be tricky but just talking about "spending money" "buying dances" without it being directly asked may be enough for his subconscious to act on it (also "please" is a command softener.)
    5.be presumptive "after we get our drinks, we should head to the vip" (this assumes he will also be buying you a drink and you should go to vip" or asking "would you like your dances on the floor, or someplace more private?" this assumes he is getting dances (plural) and give him the option of where but not saying no
    6.add a sense of Wonder.

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    http://www.the-secret-of-mindpower-a...ersuasion.html
    Apparently lowering your voice at the end of your sentences instead of heightening it an octave makes you appear more attractive & mature? Wow. I wish I could master the sexy voice lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    Eye contact. I used to be really uncomfortable with prolonged eye contact with customers, but since I've grown more comfortable with it, I've been able to stack dances by literally just staring into their eyes while running my fingers through their hair, on their chest, over their face, etc. Throw in a few coy glances down to their lips followed by a cheeky smile or giggle and they are yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nina_ View Post
    Eye contact has already been mentioned, but I agree. You cannot underestimate the importance of eye contact. I (no joke) will look into a customer's eyes and think, I am going to take a bunch of your money. Like I'm putting a spell on them lol.

    Self-awareness. If you're trying to make a big sale (ie champagne room or generally making a custo shell out tons of cash for you) you must be at your best and pay attention to detail - look your best from your head to toe from good posture to a beautiful smile or a pouty lip, whatever face looks best on you.

    Be persistent. Don't ask questions that sway them away from how sexy you are. Lure them in and then get to the sale. Make it seem like "no," is not an option to get their minds to think YES; don't ask them if they want to dance; instead tell them we should go to the VIP. Lesser chance of a "no."

    Let them feel appreciated. When they spend a decent amount of money, be thankful and grateful. It will keep them spending to see it makes you happy and you appreciate it.

    Always act like you're having a good time. Even if you're not, the show must go on. That will make them realize they should join you in having a great timme.

    Act like nothing in the world would be better time spent than getting VIP time from you.
    And this work for me as well!! It even reduces groping. He'll just sit there like a numb human atm machine.

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