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    I am just stunned! I don't get shocked anymore just stunned how many people are selling their home address for a date!
    I have seen many profiles where a performer has offered up a date, meeting or SEX on cam.

    Back in the day we did not or had not been allowed to set up a meeting that was grounds for termination from the cam site.
    All this just makes me kinda sad that some are meeting in real life for money. I mean I don't want a guy to pay to have to meet me, or have a guy perving over me while I work coming to my home.

    Scary and sad IMHO. I understand this has been going on since cam and phone sex etc. But the influx is very scary.

    First: Be safe

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    Default Re: Completely Stunned!

    idiots. thats all i can say really.

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    I don't even tell people the city I live in! I have regulars asking to Skype I don't do it. It's a shame those who do. It makes things harder for us who dont. Customers can't seem to drop it even when I say no.

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    Honestly, if you're seeing girls doing that...report them for their own safety. I wish we could send messages to each other on sites. I hate banning when you could just...I dunno, send them a private "warning" like "don't do that, do you want to end up on the news!!!"
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    I can't even imagine.. I've met some HOT guys I'd love to be like heck yes you can come see me ..but I met them on the internet..on a cam site.. soo there's that..
    I'm uncomfortable seeing it, too. It's like, is your life worth a couple hundred? Because I bet it is to some psycho out there.

    I saw a pregnant girl doing it once, raffling off her body to let anyone do what they want on cam. It made me almost vomit..that poor kid.

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    if you ho on the side, I could see it, if you were the type to do incall at a different location than where you live... otherwise, nope, nope nope.

    i don't meet guys PERIOD without it being in a nice restaurant with delicious food, no matter WHY they want to get to know me.

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    Default Re: Completely Stunned!

    I don't know of any cam sites besides maybe MFC that allow you to openly meet members off site. I only assume they "allow" it because I have seen people do "date" raffles a lot on there.

    But just because you see someone talking about meeting up with a member doesn't mean they are ACTUALLY meeting up with a member. You can make a lot of money off a guy in exclusive who thinks he has the chance to meet you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    I don't know of any cam sites besides maybe MFC that allow you to openly meet members off site. I only assume they "allow" it because I have seen people do "date" raffles a lot on there.

    But just because you see someone talking about meeting up with a member doesn't mean they are ACTUALLY meeting up with a member. You can make a lot of money off a guy in exclusive who thinks he has the chance to meet you.
    No, I don't hang in rooms, I check out profiles on many token sites because mine needs to be done over, and there is some cool shit on these profiles.
    I see soo many now that say for X amount of tokens they will raffle you, and if you win you get a dinner, or meeting at a coffee house or you fly to me, OR (recently) a pool party meeting, AND a cam SEX show for the winner!

    I don't seek these people out, I love the profiles and want to get ideas since I took mine down. I never listen to what these performers are talking about.
    You would be surprised how many token sites have these meeting profiles. Wow! I have seen 3 sites so far.

    It's very scary to see a raffle for a sex date. I hate when guys get spoiled on this shit and expect us all to be up for a meeting. I mean back in the day you would be banned from sites, guess as times change, this stuff is what there is to offer. I only hope these performers are not scamming for money, but at the same time I hope they are not being honest.... I am so sad for them. I know what it's like to be watched on cam by a guy who actually wants to harm me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camigirl View Post
    No, I don't hang in rooms, I check out profiles on many token sites because mine needs to be done over, and there is some cool shit on these profiles.
    I see soo many now that say for X amount of tokens they will raffle you, and if you win you get a dinner, or meeting at a coffee house or you fly to me, OR (recently) a pool party meeting, AND a cam SEX show for the winner!

    I don't seek these people out, I love the profiles and want to get ideas since I took mine down. I never listen to what these performers are talking about.
    You would be surprised how many token sites have these meeting profiles. Wow! I have seen 3 sites so far.

    It's very scary to see a raffle for a sex date. I hate when guys get spoiled on this shit and expect us all to be up for a meeting. I mean back in the day you would be banned from sites, guess as times change, this stuff is what there is to offer. I only hope these performers are not scamming for money, but at the same time I hope they are not being honest.... I am so sad for them. I know what it's like to be watched on cam by a guy who actually wants to harm me.
    Yeah.... those raffles have always bothered me too. I wasn't sure which type of site you were referring to, I figured it must have been a token site. I think most of these girls that do them think that if they are not meeting in their home town and are at some other location they are "safe", which is a bad thing to assume. You never know who will go to what lengths to follow you.
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    Yes, I think it's sad. The whole "comfort of working from home" thing goes right out the window when any random guy can now win/buy an in-person date that easily. So And when a guy comes to my room expecting it and says "Other models are doing it," I'm gonna tell him "So go to that model's room then....." I mean, it's onething if you decide via PM/MFC Mail to meet a member because you like him that much. But to actually advertise in your room topic/profile that the high tippers (contest winner or whatever) can win/buy a date from you? YIKES. Be careful, ladies. Even the "nice" guys can go psycho on you the moment you tell them 'no' or something they don't wanna hear. I've seen it sooo many times on these sites...especially MFC.

    Skype dates aren't good enough anymore for these guys? So now we're "stepping it up a notch" and going even further with it?

    And if you don't intend to actually meet these guys, then putting it on your profile and room topic may not be wise. They're gonna believe it and pursue it, and when they find out differently they're gonna get butthurt and call you a scammer...and may even make a forum thread calling you out on the AmberCutie Forum. Lol.
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    I always thought it was either fake or rigged. It would be so easy to rig the raffle and no one would be the wiser. There was that thread where a few performers said they met custies in person and one said she was currently dating a custie. I just found one thread on it but there was another one as well. https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...+cam+customers

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    I always thought it was rigged too. I bet models make a small killing on those raffles. And there is never pics of said guy and her that won. Plus who's to say it's not one of her guy friends even if there were said pics.
    And who's going to stay in your room when the model next door is offering that and you don't?

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    Let's not get too judgy here. It's basically escorting. We also don't know that they're giving away their actual address or if it's rigged or if they screen these guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    Let's not get too judgy here. It's basically escorting. We also don't know that they're giving away their actual address or if it's rigged or if they screen these guys.
    I agree. Everyone is so concerned about what everyone else is doing.

    Edited to add: I really think these raffles are rigged, tbh.
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    I always gathered it was rigged and no personal details would be exchanged, that these girls were just cashing in on guys who wanted to meet them. I personally send guys away if they want to meet, but if someone else banks from these dudes? Good for them I guess. Idc.

    Escorts take their safety veeeeery seriously, it's incredibly unlikely that they would meet anybody without a screening process and/or security measures. And if they do, it's their choice. They will have their reasons. I've been an escort (though not while camming) and hated faux concern. The way another girl runs her business is none of my business, etc. etc.


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    I know several porn stars who will fuck their fans for free for content to put up on their sites. We all have many guys who volunteer for such things, but in REALITY less than 1% will ever actually show up to the location & do the scene.

    There is a very well know big boob model who does it, in 7 years only like 3 guys ever followed through with it. Even though she openly says she will fuck them during cam shows. Which goes to show that these guys are all talk & no action when it comes right down to it.

    I bet even though those guys bought into the raffle, may love to talk about it, come back to that girls room over & over again buying more raffle tickets for a chance when it comes down to the date don't show up. Good con, if you ask me. I just can't stand to be on cam long enough on MFC to do it.

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    I think this is a good way to scam guys, or actually meet them. I am sure it's working both ways.
    There is a couple in my state who do have a different guy with them about 50% of the time on cam. I used to tip them and enjoy their shows actually. Then people ask how they all met and she says we met him on the site. I mean it only takes one, we don't exactly draw in the best crowd. Many guys are very nice honest and just lonely, I know this, but some seek us out thinking we will fuck them. Scary shit. I do agree those that meet like this ruin it for us that don't. I am not going to sit all day with a customer begging to meet me because he pays me well.
    Guys paying and not showing up, yea heard that go down on cam years ago, he broke her heart, she drove into another state to meet him, he never showed. I can see this all playing out many different ways.
    My self love is worth much more than money and sex. I agree it'e escorting on cam so it seems.

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    I don't see how they're ruining anything for you. I could just as easily say any girl who does anal on cam ruins it for me because then guys ask for it and I don't do it.

    I also believe I'm worth more than just money and sex even though I'm an escort. So, let's not dive into that nastiness, ok?

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    This is a touchy subject, is it not? I believe there are a ton of things ruining the ability to make money in the adult industry, but I don't know if this is one of them? Camsite marketing has coincided with dating sites for a long time now. And it gives the whitelables freedom to create whatever narrative they want. As long as it makes money and brings traffic. But because this method doesn't convert to paying traffic to so many, I suppose some girls are doing what they can to make it work for them? Long before these cammers tapped into that market the fuck a camgirl thingy was already in place. When the major sites starting buying dating site traffic they pretty much gave girls the license to push it. That's really something to think about.

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    I am actually meeting a regular. Granted, he is the ONLY regular I am okay with meeting and we've spoken for over a year.
    However, to meet a complete stranger? Technically, there could be one random guy that enters in the "raffle" and win it. Never spoke to the model and the model has no information about the guy. (That is, if the model isn't rigging the raffle/contest to begin with.)

    Then again,
    the model can technically run a background check on the person, and if sexual actions occur before them, he/she is required to submit an updated STD test.
    (I am aware that background checks aren't exactly the safest form of security, but it gives the model an idea of who she is dealing with.)


    Do I agree with it? Not really. I'm meeting somebody because I WANT TO, not because he won it in some raffle. Am I against other girls doing it? Nah. I am nobody to tell another person what's right from wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    I don't see how they're ruining anything for you. I could just as easily say any girl who does anal on cam ruins it for me because then guys ask for it and I don't do it.

    I also believe I'm worth more than just money and sex even though I'm an escort. So, let's not dive into that nastiness, ok?
    Being an escort is fine, there is nothing nasty about escorts, I think they have their place in the world too, just not on a Cam site where work is just that, camming, when you work for a company. But any one who remembers me knows I started on cam when it was a baby. Dial up and all. We had grounds for termination and a fine if caught meeting a customer. Call me old school, I wish it was all still that way. There is no fine line between being a cam performer and escort, as I have done cam for many years and only been paid money a few times (by the same man) to meet out for a nice dinner and dancing then he would fly back to Chicago. That's an escort, no nastiness at all.

    This whole new level or phase I see of meeting guys from cam sites people work from has nothing to do with the advertisement of dating sites promoting us. We need to read our rules before we work cam perhaps. Meeting is never encouraged, but used to be frowned upon. A simple no meant NO, today they persist.. wonder why?

    As far as ruining or making my job as strictly a cam performer does indeed make MY job tougher. I have beggers all over asking for a meeting and wanting to pay with money online or offline to do so. They are good paying customers who I depend on to make my quota for the month, but really hate the begging to meet because another performer met him! Yes, these performers ruin it for many of us as I read it. Or at the least make the job tougher than it should be. It's draining to constantly explain why I will not meet you! It's all over many profiles now for good reason, but hell guys don't read them...lol

    I want his money, but don't want to meet him? Hmm, I can scam him and have him hang on as long as I can for his money, or say fuck it and have a one time meeting to shut him up.... he's damn good money so I don't want to ban him.

    Ya know?! It sucks, and also a damn good way to end up on the front page of the local paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyAnderson View Post
    I am actually meeting a regular. Granted, he is the ONLY regular I am okay with meeting and we've spoken for over a year.
    However, to meet a complete stranger? Technically, there could be one random guy that enters in the "raffle" and win it. Never spoke to the model and the model has no information about the guy. (That is, if the model isn't rigging the raffle/contest to begin with.)

    Then again,
    the model can technically run a background check on the person, and if sexual actions occur before them, he/she is required to submit an updated STD test.
    (I am aware that background checks aren't exactly the safest form of security, but it gives the model an idea of who she is dealing with.)


    Do I agree with it? Not really. I'm meeting somebody because I WANT TO, not because he won it in some raffle. Am I against other girls doing it? Nah. I am nobody to tell another person what's right from wrong.
    And I agree with you, I am not judging one person, I think I feel fearful for some of them. I hope your meeting works out well. I would love to know there is safety in place for you, but that is your business. I am ranting about how the job has changed as I know it. The meetings are becoming more frequent and I think it's hitting many rooms of us cam performers now. Simple raffles and sex, THAT'S what stuns me! Meeting the highest payer from a cam site, that stuns me. These guys ending up crowding other rooms paying good money then expecting a meeting, that stuns me!

    Good luck to you. This rant is nothing personal to anyone person, just my own feelings with working through the beggers for meetings. Or being asked to raffle off a date.


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    Im not judging. If they meet a customer I hope they get all their info and give it to someone just to be safe. There are as many shady people as there are good, honest people. I just hope everyone that meets people offline do it in a safe manner.




    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    Let's not get too judgy here. It's basically escorting. We also don't know that they're giving away their actual address or if it's rigged or if they screen these guys.

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    There will alllllways be guys asking to meet you whether other girls do it or not. Just like there are always guys telling girls that "so-and-so lets me pay by PayPal" "such-and-such doesn't charge as much as you" "this other girl let me do age play". It doesn't matter what other girls do, if indeed they are doing it. Run your business how you choose and if the customer doesn't like it, they can get fucked. By someone else. Haha.

    Camming doesn't necessarily have to be separate from escorting either - yeah it's a rule on many sites NOT to meet up, some of us would never mix the two, but there's a lot of money in offering both simultaneously. Adultwork is very successful in the UK and it doesn't even advertise. This is because it started as an escort directory, then added other services. It's incredibly common for escorts there to offer webcam, and vice versa. I rarely see a girl on there who doesn't have at least two services offered (they also do phone sex, videos, galleries, erotica, panty sale, blah blah). I was frequently pressured to offer cam when I was escorting! Did I blame cammers for that? No. I blamed the guys who either didn't read my profile, or didn't respect my clear boundaries, they're the nasty dickwads making things difficult. Not my fellow sex workers.


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    You have to look at it from both sides. Camming is for cam shows period. No offline meetings and we agree to that in our contracts. Escorting is for meeting people in person and such. So I understand if a cam performer is annoyed that people are blurring the lines. Meeting customers offline can make some of these men think we are all up for that and a lot of us aren't. I am more annoyed when you tell a customer no and they harass you.



    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    I don't see how they're ruining anything for you. I could just as easily say any girl who does anal on cam ruins it for me because then guys ask for it and I don't do it.

    I also believe I'm worth more than just money and sex even though I'm an escort. So, let's not dive into that nastiness, ok?

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