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    Default Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    Surprisingly it's the young girls like myself that are going out there and trying to scrounge every dollar they can. The worst shift I ever had I left with $48 and I wanted to cry. I want to leave with at least 300 every time, sometimes it's just not possible but I still try and earn.

    I'm shocked that veteran dancers seem perfectly fine to sit around, go on stage when they need to and dance their asses off for chump change and sometimes nothing. Then they just go back and sit down with the same loser guy who is never going to buy a dance but might throw them a buck on the stage.

    At my new club the manager was telling me that during day shifts the girls get their regulars and go home with 100-200 bucks. He said it like it was supposed to be impressive but I wanted to say "That's it??!!"

    Have people just succumbed to the idea that there is no money to be made so why bother, or are they really thinking that they're banking? WTF is going on?

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    In the real world, that's banking. In our world it's like FTW? It could also depend on the location and quality of the club.

    I try to make at least 300 per shift. I work 4 days a week so that would be around 1,200 weekly minimum.
    Keep hustling and let them stay broke.

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    Quote Originally Posted by KikiGem View Post
    I'm shocked that veteran dancers seem perfectly fine to sit around, go on stage when they need to and dance their asses off for chump change and sometimes nothing. Then they just go back and sit down with the same loser guy who is never going to buy a dance but might throw them a buck on the stage.
    Maybe those girls who are dancing for chump change really like stage performing or the exercise from it. Maybe the girls who sit around with a guy for a long period of time are getting paid for their time. If I were sitting around with a customer who was handing me free money, I wouldn't go out and announce it.

    Maybe some of those vets really don't give a darn anymore or are burned out but can't take a break from dancing. Who knows what their reasons are. Like Plutoniangirl said:

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    Keep hustling and let them stay broke.

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    Exactly, if I was satisfied with that amount of money I would go back to retail. But I'm not so I guess I'm a little spoiled. But I was seriously confused because as strippers, we should be spoiled and expect to make serious money.

    Ah well, I am just gonna keep hustling and hope to God I don't let complacency get the best of me.

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    As long as I can make enough money for my daily fix and my pimp won't smack me I'm happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    As long as I can make enough money for my daily fix and my pimp won't smack me I'm happy.
    Good for you, aiming high there.

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    I had been a victim of being complacent, especially during my last days. Complacency is one of the reasons why I retired. I'm still somewhat active in the industry, but bartending or assisting managers: I really don't feel like dancing, at least not for now.





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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    I'm being sarcastic. -_- If I had a pimp it would be Anton Lavey and if I had a drug habit I'd be a hell of a lot skinnier.
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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    yeah we also know what sarcasm is down here too thanks, your not the only ones with the monopoly on that
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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    ^ At least some of us get your sense of sarcasm tempest //

    Yeah I used to be a little frustrated with what some girls were happy with leaving. But I quickly learned to just focus on me and not worry about anyone else there working. Like someone else said, let them be content making less and be glad you have greater ideals for yourself. It's less competition you have to deal with anyway.




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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    As long as I can make enough money for my daily fix and my pimp won't smack me I'm happy.
    Where you at? Where's my money?

    Slap that ho like a domino.

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    It's really hard to know who is making how much, especially when you're new. Seriously, don't pay attention to numbers anyone says.

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    I'm pragmatic and I'm not overly greedy. If I'm working at my usual dive on a MONDAY in Bumblefuck PA I sure as hell am not expecting to shit Benjamins until my intestines burst.
    Location, location, fucking location. I look at it as it's x amount more than I walked out with.
    Weekends are a whole different ball game. I don't fucking settle. So yeah I "aim high".
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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    Don't forget that these veteran dancers at your club might know something you don't know.
    They may be familiar with customers in the club at any given moment and know who doesn't spend money, doesn't click with them, is a time waster, is too grabby or difficult to deal with.

    I have quite a few girls in my club who seem content with only doing stage sets. I very rarely see them doing dances or VIPs. I know for a lot of them the reason behind this is that they don't know what to say, and how to interact with customers. Sometimes stuff like this takes time, and some will never catch on.

    Don't forget also that you can never REALLY know what's going on. There are too many variants in this line of work.

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    Also factor in tipping. I have had customers slip me more than a few dollars at a time. Add in several rounds with that customer and I was sitting very pretty. I didn't do one single dance or court that night but I wasn't complaining. I'd rather work smarter not harder, which is what most veterans would say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    I'm being sarcastic. -_- If I had a pimp it would be Anton Lavey and if I had a drug habit I'd be a hell of a lot skinnier.
    Lol, I was also being sarcastic. I figured you did not have a drug problem and/or pimp daddy in your life.

    "It's really hard to know who is making how much, especially when you're new. Seriously, don't pay attention to numbers anyone says."

    I heard one girl tell a customer she was worried she wouldn't even be able to afford some medicine for her kid, then tell another that she had a regular who would come in biweekly and drop hundreds of dollars on her plus tips plus drinks etc etc etc. Who knows what the truth is and who cares. I don't know or care what the other girls are making; I don't think it's even proper to discuss your earnings at the club. I'm only trying to figure if there really is no money to be made at my newest club or if it's just a pandemic of lazy dancers.

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    I like to walk up to a guy, shake my boobs in his face, go dance. If that doesn't work, I don't sit more than 3 songs. Personally, I would rather go home broke than have to spend 2 hours talking to a douche that needs "convincing" to get a dance. I don't care how slow it is and that "There aren't any other customers so it isn't wasting your time". I'm fat, lazy, and DGAF after 7 years. Those nights, I'd rather sit with a furniture customer and at least get some interesting conversation/ catch up on how things are going with them. I work Wednesday and Saturday. Saturday is my easy money, Wednesday is just extra icing on the cake so I don't freak out if I go home broke. (It sucks that I wasted my time, but I'm not mad about being broke)

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    Sometimes I feel like moving to the middle of nowhere and stripping so at least my profit is bigger when put against my cost of living.

    I've only ever lived in LA, San Francisco, and New York. These places are expensive girl! My friend moved back to Michigan after living in Cali because she got pregnant and wanted to be closer to her family. She strips out there and I'm jealous of what she's been able to accomplish. $500 a shift for her means more money in her pocket because she doesn't have these huge bills bogging her down. $500 a shift for me and it's gone soon enough towards something.

    I gotta work a lot and double shifts for my definition of "making bank." $300 a day unfortunately isn't enough when my rent alone is $1500 before utilities and all the other bills. And if I wanna enjoy Manhattan, that's gonna be a lot of money to enjoy it. Thank goodness I don't have a car expense or children or pets. And I factor in going back to Cali at least once every two months.

    Making bank to me is relative. $200 a shift when my rent is $400 a month? No problem.
    $200 a shift when my rent is $1500? Not so great.

    Also you never know the situation. I have a friend that just strips for side money. She lives at home and her parents pay for everything. School, phone, clothes. But the money she makes she splurges on herself. She's perfectly content with that.
    Another veteran dancer just strips for the hell of it. She's married and is taken care of financially, so anything she makes she keeps for herself.

    A lot of people just have different reasons for stripping. One girl just loves to come and get paid to party. I don't condone it, but she doesn't really care about the money.

    Whatever floats their boat. Less competition and more money for me
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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    Have people just succumbed to the idea that there is no money to be made so why bother, or are they really thinking that they're banking? WTF is going on?
    In the way of a possible answer, consider the following ...

    For the past few years, virtually all increased earnings have flowed to the 'top 10%' of American earners ... mostly through profits on stocks, bonds, real estate, commodities etc. Thus clubs who can count a good number 'top 10%' earning American guys in their club's customer base ( i.e. upscale big city clubs for the most part ) have more dollars than ever being brought through the club's front door ... with corresponding high earnings potential for dancers working in such clubs.

    On the flip side, over the past few years, 'middle class' Americans have actually seen their 'take home' paycheck earnings decline ... mostly due to very few pay raises, rising payroll taxes, rising health insurance premiums, etc. On top of this, 'middle class' Americans have experienced rising cost of 'necessities' ... from gasoline to food to utility bills to property taxes / rent ... which consume a larger percentage of their total earnings than is the case for the higher earning 'top 10%' ( earning 3 x as much money does not translate into burning 3 x as much gas, eating 3 x as much food etc ). Thus 'middle class' Americans now have far fewer dollars available to spend on non-essential items like private dances and VIP's. For clubs whose customer base is mostly comprised of 'middle class' guys, fewer dollars are being brought in the club's front door ... with corresponding reduced earnings potential for the dancers working in such clubs.

    I'm only trying to figure if there really is no money to be made at my newest club or if it's just a pandemic of lazy dancers.
    It's possible that the more experienced dancers have already determined that the majority of customers in this club simply don't have much extra money to spend. Thus they may be following the old adage 'you can't get blood out of a stone', and saving their energy for a handful of 'top 10%' earning 'regulars'.

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    it really varies so much depending on location, specific club set up, individual dancers... some places there isn't much money to be made, other places there is! i think everybody can agree that since the recession hit, everybody has taken a hit to their income..but that goes for just about everybody in the vanilla world too besides the extremely wealthy.
    don't listen to what they say, and just see what the earning potential is yourself..give it a few weeks! if the dancers are lazy, more money for you! i know a girl who works at a total dive but she makes good money because the other dancers don't care to hustle at all and have just "given up".

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    I think some people have succumbed to the idea that $200 is "banking," but I refute that! I don't care if the girl next to me makes that, I'm going to strive for better, and I'm going to earn wayyy more than that almost 100 percent of the time (almost).

    I remember hearing a girl say to the house mom that she made $150 last shift, and saying it in a tone that made it obvious that she thought that was good money. Are you serious? Excited for $150? Awful. I can't remember the last time I made that low of an amount but I guarantee you I was furious.

    Some girls don't set the bar high. I do though, so that's the difference. If girls are OK with sitting around and making 100-200 laughable dollars, that doesn't even hinder me so I'm fine with it. I will always strive for excellent money, I wouldn't be taking off my clothes for "average" money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiGem View Post
    I don't know or care what the other girls are making; I don't think it's even proper to discuss your earnings at the club. I'm only trying to figure if there really is no money to be made at my newest club or if it's just a pandemic of lazy dancers.
    But yet the title of your thread is "girls don't know what banking is anymore"? So it kinds of sounds like you do care what they're making?

    Honestly, like everyone else has said you never know what a girl is making and you don't know her circumstances and it's not your place to judge anyway... I've worked with many girls who have 2-3 regs who come in every week and they know that they can walk out with 4 digits for the week just by dealing with them, so they aren't going to bust their ass for a $40 dance, if the club required they be there early or stay late they'd just hang out waiting for their reg to come in. I've worked with girls who get custys to pay them for their time, and I've worked with girls who are just very picky about who they dance with and aren't going to do a VIP or a dance for any amount of money if they feel like the customer will be grabby or disrespectful. And location is huge. In LA $600 was an average weekend night, in London I'm grinning like a fool if I make that cause it's fucking HARD to make money in the UK. And of course I've worked with girls who are just lazy or burnt out and can't hustle.

    If these girls are the latter then be grateful you don't have to worry about competition, and if you really want some super-hustlers in your club, we can switch out co-workers cause I'm sick of working with them!
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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    Summers are slow in most clubs. After doing this job for a few years you get used to the idea that all the money is between September and May. You may find some bachelor parties and the like in the summer, but for the most part, the warm weather keeps the customers at home. Veterans know this and don't sweat it. I used to do bachelor parties on the weekends in the summer to keep my income flowing. I don't have the energy (or patience) for drunk young guys anymore, but it was fun for me 10 years ago. I could go home with over $1k at a single 1 hour party, so financially, it was well worth it.

    Otherwise, you have to rely on regulars or switching clubs/cities to a more profitable location to make decent money in summer. If you do switch, I recommend clubs near tourist centers esp. where golf is popular in the summer.

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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    It really depends. In some clubs I've worked in, $100 was an average night. I'd generally make about 200 and that was considered "good." If I made 300, it was an excellent night. In other clubs, 300 was a regular night and less than that was like "Why did I bother coming in?" It really depends on the location, the customers, and certain girls' mindsets.

    I know there was one night in my "$100 dive" where I made like 250 in the first 2 hours, and could have had a really good night for that club, but I proceeded to say "good enough" and sit on my ass the rest of the night. I was really burnt out. And the low earnings of that club contributed heavily to the burn out. When you've been working at a club where your average is so low, and the customers are probably hard to get any money out of, it becomes much easier to feel "satisfied" with lower-than-average stripper earnings because it's technically "good" considering what you normally would've had to go through for that amount of money. If you aren't burnt out on what is probably a "slow hustle" at that club yet, milk it, and make really good money compared to the other girls. Eventually, you'll probably burn out and have to go to a club where the earnings potential is higher and more what you're used to. Enjoy being the hard hustler in there for now, and don't worry about the other girls!
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    Default Re: Girls don't know what banking is anymore- complacency or just resigning yourself?

    I think the reality is that girls are happy dancing for a lot less now. If they can make a bit over minimum wage and work whenever they want while going to school, it becomes worth it for many. Stripping, IMO, is no longer seen as taboo. So if you weigh stripping and retail for around the same pay, stripping is still a better option for many if they are fit/attractive enough. And now with clubs just full of girls in that boat, its become commonplace. I would imagine, but I haven't danced since 2011.

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