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    Anyone else notice that the new "anti prostitution laws" mention not prostitution, but rather "sexual services". That's a wide catogory that includes stuff like lap dancing, or at least a lawyer could make an arguement that way.

    While this law will die when it reaches the Supreme Court, is anyone else concerned for stripclubs in Canada?

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    why do you think it will die??

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    Because it largely ignores the judgement of the supreme court on the previous laws on safety for prostitutes. Provisions against advertising and others put prostitutes in danger.

    And that it also effectly criminalizes strippering, camming, porn, etc...

    There is other stuff, but you get the gist I'm sure.

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    i thought they were proposing a new law that would make prostitution and all "sexual services" legal? can you post a link?

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    http://jmortonmusings.blogspot.ca/20...y-new.html?m=1

    A blog giving a legal opinion basically agrees with me that this law criminalizes stripclubs.

    This bill was written by brain dead idiots, chief amoung them the biggest fucking moron amoung the tories, the backstabber of David Orchard, Peter MacKay.

    These tools pretty much lose everytime they go up to the Supreme Court, Insite, Nadeon, other cases.

    Still tbis will create nightmares in the shortterm form stripclubs, hopefully they can get some sort of injuction or something to stay open while this is battled out in the courts.

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    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2...eme_court.html

    I'll try and find the actual bill as well

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    Because it largely ignores the judgement of the supreme court on the previous laws on safety for prostitutes. Provisions against advertising and others put prostitutes in danger.

    And that it also effectly criminalizes strippering, camming, porn, etc...

    There is other stuff, but you get the gist I'm sure.

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    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2...eme_court.html

    I'll try and find the actual bill as well

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    https://openparliament.ca/bills/41-2/C-36/

    MPs discussing the bill, c-36.

    The Tories will support the bill, the Liberals are likely to support the bill Justin Trudeau said prostitution is violence and because he's an asshole, the NDP will likely oppose the bill once they figure out how to keep the feminists from going ape shit when they do, and the Green leader Elizabeth May has already said she opposes it, and the Bloc, even Quebecors don't give a fuck what the Bloc thinks anymore.

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    ^^^ Unfortunately, this appears to be an equal and opposite 'swing of the pendulum' from the recent Canadian Supreme Court ruling which technically legalized prostitution. From my 'outsider's view', it would appear that while the 'opposition' has no choice but to accept the SC decision that prostitution is indeed legal, that 'opposition' is taking full advantage of their new power to 'regulate' legal prostitution.

    Indeed, it would appear that the poorly defined 'sexual services' description does leave the door open for new regulations to interfere with the existing Canadian Strip Club business model ... since clubowners, club staff etc. do indeed financially benefit from some activities which meet the definition of 'sexual services' ( i.e. contact lap dances ), since clubowners publicly advertise those 'sexual services', etc. This may also interfere with the Canadian Escort business model, since it imposes very stiff penalties for anyone who 'peripherally' profits from ''sexual services' ( i.e. booking agents, security, etc ). A very wide interpretation of 'sexual services' could also potentially be stretched to apply to Canadian camgirls, who were not specifically referred to in the new regulations but which arguably fall under the same basic tenets of escort websites which the new regulations would ban on the basis of illegal 'advertising' of 'sexual services' for sale. And if this 'peripheral' profits provision is extended to apply to banks and credit card processors used by Canadian strip clubs, escort services, and potentially webcam hosts, it's 'all over' from a realistic business standpoint.

    I would also add that, while the law de-criminalizes acts of prostitution, it now potentially criminalizes anyone who pays for 'sexual services'. This obviously includes street-corner 'Johns', and undoubtedly also includes Escort service customers, but may potentially also include customers at strip clubs that offer contact lap dances.

    This appears to be yet another example of the law of 'unintended consequences' ... while it may now be 100% legal for girls to 'sell it' on streetcorners, ironically it may soon no longer be possible to 'sell it' in strip clubs or on the internet. And the worst news of all is the high probability that these new regulations can be enacted almost immediately, while any constitutional court challenges may take years to work their way through Canadian courts to the point of having these new regulations overturned / repealed.

    As interpreted by Canadian attorney James Morton ...

    (snip)"This is part of the preamble to Bill C-36, the "Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act".

    Note the objectification of the human body is seen as a social harm to be stopped - and heavy criminal penalties are imposed.

    Anyone paying for "sexual services" is guilty of an offence with mandatory minimum sentences. The Act provides:

    286.1 (1) Everyone who, in any place, obtains for consideration, or communicates with anyone for the purpose of obtaining for consideration, the sexual services of a person, is guilty of [an offence]

    Note that "sexual services" is not defined. And if we accept that the preamble's description of objectification of the human body is a harm to be avoided, then surely "sexual services" must be defined broadly. It could, on a simple reading of the legislation, include paying someone to take off their clothes so that the viewer can obtain sexual gratification. Certainly a "lap dance" where a naked stripper sits of the lap of a customer - who has paid for the dance - is caught by the legislation. "(snip)

    also from the Star ...

    (snip)"Bill C-36, makes it an offence to buy sex or to communicate with anyone anywhere for that reason. Jail penalties range from 18 months to five years. Mandatory minimum $500 fines would apply — and increase to $1,000 for a repeat offence. Those fines would double if the exchange happens in a public place “where children might reasonably be expected to be present.”

    But the new scheme carries a criminal ban on certain communications by prostitutes, too. It retains the ban under the old law on conversations with clients that stop or impede traffic. But it would also criminalize prostitutes for communicating in public places about selling sex where children could reasonably be present, under threat of six months in jail.

    Prostitutes would be allowed to advertise their own sexual services, but the bill criminalizes any third-party such as an escort agency or massage parlour that advertises their services.

    In fact, the bill proposes sweeping new powers for police to go to court to get judicial orders to seize printed ads, or demand Internet service providers remove websites, and reveal the name and address of the person who posted it — in the same way the Criminal Code allows child porn websites to be tracked. Conviction could bring jail terms from 18 months to five years.

    Vancouver-based Pivot Legal Society, which advocates for prostitutes’ legal rights and safety, says it will “radically change the sex trade in Canada” and make it impossible for prostitutes to work in safer indoor locations if they cannot allow agencies or employers to reach clients through advertising.

    “This is a very misguided law, which is contrary to both the letter and spirit of the Supreme Court’s decision in Bedford,” said Pivot’s written analysis. “There is little question that Canadian courts would declare this new prohibition on advertising to be unconstitutional.”

    Boivin wondered if the prohibition on advertising would be an unjustifiable limit on free speech, or be treated like tobacco advertising and be deemed lawful."(snip)


    As a side note, I find it ironic that the proposed ban on the advertising of 'sexual services' by Escort agencies, Strip Clubs, potentially webcam hosts etc., in a new environment where prostitution is now a legal business activity, is being justified on the same legal grounds as the long-standing ban on tobacco advertising !


    I'll also freely admit that, in threads posted immediately following the Canadian Supreme Court's ruling last December, I misjudged the Canadian gov't's probable actions. At the time I figured that all 'sex for money' related activities would become subject to new regulations, but assumed that gov't 'greed' would push those regulations in the direction of revenue generating licensing, testing and inspections, also creating new gov't jobs, etc. Instead it would appear that the 'opposition' Canadian Gov't is willing to forego those potentially increased revenues in order to effectively 'kill' the industry - which the Canadian Supreme Court just declared to be legal - by 'other means' i.e. via new regulations and restrictions on the ability of the industry to function profitably in the 'real world'.
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    Probably not unintended consequences at all, but an astutely drafted attempt to revise statues in compliance with the ruling.

    This appears to be the text of the bill, still difficult to understand insofar as it consists of numerous amendments to existing statutes.

    http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublicati...6338&File=24#1

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    Probably not unintended consequences at all, but an astutely drafted attempt to revise statues in compliance with the ruling.

    This appears to be the text of the bill, still difficult to understand insofar as it consists of numerous amendments to existing statutes.

    http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublicati...6338&File=24#1

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    ^^^ reading the actual bill also tends to show that Canadian camgirls potentially need to be just as concerned as Canadian dancers about new regulations ... since, like the poorly defined 'sexual services', the bill also makes reference to equally poorly defined 'voyeuristic recording' as also falling under the scope of the new regulations. The bill also grants new authority to Canadian LE to force internet service providers to take down / block access to websites found to be in violation of the new regulations.

    Also the bill makes reference to those who receive 'indirect benefit' as being just as indibtable as those who receive 'direct benefit' ( i.e. Escort services, Strip Clubs, potentially adult webcam hosts, etc. ) ... which potentially portends badly in regard to banks, credit card processors, etc. who also profit from these business activities. Being forced to operate on a 100% 'cash only' basis would certainly put a major damper on Escort services and Strip clubs, but could very well bestow a 'kiss of death' for internet based businesses falling under new regulations. Actually, this would be right in line with current US gov't efforts targeting banks and credit card processors who service 'high risk' businesses including 'adult' businesses ( google Operation Choke Point ).

    Nothing to do now but wait to see how this bill develops. As pointed out earlier, the Canadian Gov't does have the majorities to pass this bill despite vocal opposition. Also ironically, both the highly 'conservative' and highly 'liberal' elements seem to support this bill ... albeit for totally different reasons. From


    (snip)"The purpose of the bill is to target the exploiters. It explicitly challenges men's right to buy sex and positions women in prostitution as victims, not criminals. There is money ($20 million, which I'm not convinced is enough) for exiting services and to support front-line work. The language used in the bill is very heartening and actually states that prostitution is inherently exploitative (which it is), that it "has a disproportionate impact on women and children," and that "the objectification of the human body and the commodification of sexual activity" causes "social harm." It explicitly names demand as the problem which needs to be addressed: "it is important to denounce and prohibit the purchase of sexual services because it creates a demand for prostitution."

    All of this kind of thrills me. This language is explicitly feminist in that it names men as the problem and points to gender inequality as a key factor in terms of why prostitution exists in the first place and in terms of who is exploited in prostitution.

    What is troubling is the communication provision. We don't know why it's there and we don't know how it might play out in real life. It's possible that "think of the children!" was stuck in there to appease Conservative voters who are concerned about prostitution happening around kids or in their (wealthy) neighbourhoods (meaning it could be a NIMBY provision).(snip)


    On the apparent flip side, the vocal opposition to this bill doesn't appear to be supported by any 'heavy hitting' lobbying group. Big Business doesn't care. Unions don't care. A few 3rd party politicians appear to care, although they may simply be looking for any issue which allows them to stake out their differences from the 'liberals' and 'conservatives'. A few 'free speech' advocates seem to care, but they may have already been derailed by equating the 'sexual services' advertising ban to the long standing tobacco advertising ban on the same 'social harm' legal basis.


    Perhaps more important from a 'real world' standpoint, the new regulations may very well be put in place soon, and remain in place for years, before another constitutional challenge can actually be brought before the Canadian Supreme Court which might result in these regulations being struck down.
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    It really depends on the wing of the NDP you're talking about, if your talking about women and men who are what I call prohabitionists (they call themselves feminists, but I fail to see how anyone which wishes to take away the rights of women, and some men, and give them to most men like Police, is a feminist), then yes they've allied with the socons, although they're in denial. But there are those actually interested in what sex workers have to say, woman like Boivin, Nikki Ashton (NDP critic for status of women), Libby Davies (deputy leader and MP for Robert Picktons hunting ground may that bastards come back as a pimple on a slugs back), which are real feminists. And then there are anarchists (for lack of a better word) like me in the NDP.

    So ultimately I do think the NDP will do the right thing and oppose the bill.

    I do have some hope that businesses will seek an injunction or something against the bill to allow them to continue to operate. After all these are traditionally legal businesses that would go bankrupt in the time it will take the case to work its way up to the Supreme Court.

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    do have some hope that businesses will seek an injunction or something against the bill to allow them to continue to operate. After all these are traditionally legal businesses that would go bankrupt in the time it will take the case to work its way up to the Supreme Court.
    Undoubtedly the club owners etc. will attempt this. However, the judge will have to weigh the fact that, under the new law, issuing such an injunction would also facilitate the club owners ability to continue to profit from exploiting the 'sexual services' provided by the club's dancers ... which was something the new law clearly states it is intended to stop, and which is something that will draw immediate and vocal public opposition from both ends of the 'spectrum' !!! The way this unfolds should be 'entertaining' to say the least.

    Personal opinion is that, with big businesses and unions on the sidelines, the 'conservatives' and the 'liberals' have a strong coalition in place that leaves the 3rd parties and other opposition 'surrounded'. But I was wrong before !!!

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    ^Considering the Tories currently hold a majority, even if the NDP AND the Liberals oppose the bill, it's sadly very unlikely that it won't pass. And unless the Tories directly refer the bill to the Supreme Court (which, frankly speaking, would be surprising on their end), the court doesn't get a say until someone challenges it -- a process that took 6 years the first time around. We can certainly hope that they'll buck to public pressure and it won't take years to get new, proper legislation, but the outlook is unfortunately quite bleak.

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    . looks like i won't be going back to canada! the whole thing is giving me whiplash..so its legal to prostitute but not to have any 3rd party benefit, or to advertise, and its still illegal to purchase ANY forms of erotic entertainment..from the sex workers who can legally work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    . looks like i won't be going back to canada! the whole thing is giving me whiplash..so its legal to prostitute but not to have any 3rd party benefit, or to advertise, and its still illegal to purchase ANY forms of erotic entertainment..from the sex workers who can legally work?
    Well, you can advertise your own sexual services, it's advertising OTHERS' sexual services (ie. an agency or pimp) that would be the criminal offence.

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    Well, I don't know how the idiots who challenged this last year expected anything different from a Conservative Majority Government. Jesus talk about terrible timing. Thanks guys hope I still have a job in a couple months...yeesh
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    I have seen articles both appalled and supporting this bill. I think that it could go either way. Hopefully it does not pass.

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    so its legal to prostitute but not to have any 3rd party benefit, or to advertise
    Yes per the text of the bill this is exactly the case. Any 3rd party who profits from 'sexual services' is potentially indibtable. And while the girls themselves can advertise, it's illegal for a 3rd party to advertise on their behalf. IMHO the greatest 'real world' risk factor from this 3rd party provision is that banks, credit card processors, etc. could be deemed to also be indibtable if they ( continue to ) offer financial services to strip clubs, adult websites etc. ... thus sharing in profits originally derived from 'sexual services'.


    and its still illegal to purchase ANY forms of erotic entertainment..from the sex workers who can legally work?
    That's how the bill plans to remedy the 'social problems' stemming from legalized prostitution ... by making customers indibtable if they purchase 'sexual services'. And while the bill doesn't specifically include all forms of erotic entertainment, it DOES specifically include a reference to 'voyeuristic recordings'. Understand that the gov't is also appropriating an initial $20 million to cover 'transition' costs ... which is a vague way of saying that it expects this bill to drive girls out of the 'adult' business permanently.


    I have seen articles both appalled and supporting this bill. I think that it could go either way
    Unfortunately, 'equal' coverage in mainstream media does not translate into an 'equal' number of votes in parliament !!! As Shanna pointed out, the Tories already have the votes necessary to pass this bill. And even if they didn't, some number of Liberals also support this bill for 'feminist' reasons. The closest real world experience is probably the legalization of prostitution by Nordic European countries, which effectively 'transitioned' girls out of the adult industry and onto the country's social welfare system.

    From the Calgary Herald ...

    (snip)In 2010, Swedish Chancellor of Justice Anna Skarhed led an evaluation of sex-purchase laws from 1999 to 2008 and concluded that the ban on the purchase of sexual services “had the intended effect” and was “an important instrument in preventing and combating prostitution.”

    Kasja Wahlberg, Sweden’s National Rapporteur on Trafficking in Human Beings, said around the same time that the number of men buying or trying to buy sexual services had decreased “considerably” under the law. She said conversations caught on police wiretaps showed organized crime groups were focusing on moving sex trafficking operations to countries where prostitution was legal or more tolerated.

    Until recently, Skilbrei says, the focus in the Nordic region was on the roots of prostitution, seeing it as a symptom rather than the cause of other social problems. She said the efforts in Norway — which included generous welfare provisions and helping women find other ways to earn a living — have succeeded in keeping Norwegians out of the sex trade"(snip)


    From the Toronto Sun ...

    (snip)"We have already seen one effect of the push to legalize prostitution in Canada.

    Strip parlours in the GTA are planning to “enhance” their activity by branching into brothels.

    Another option — banning prostitution — may be favoured by idealists who would like to eliminate a practice they find distasteful.

    Yet we all must acknowledge a multi-billion-dollar global industry will not disappear overnight simply by outlawing it.

    It would drive the industry underground, sealing its connection with organized crime and violence against women.

    What remains is the Nordic model, which is gaining vogue in countries other than Sweden, where it was first adopted. It is legal in Sweden to sell sex but not to buy it, and brothels and pimping are outlawed.

    This law recognizes the economic needs of those who are driven by poverty, and who sell sex to alleviate it.

    It also acknowledges an individual’s choice to sell sex.

    Yet it protects those who are trafficked and forced to work as sex workers.

    The Nordic model can empower prostitutes.

    Transferring the crime and any moral shame from them to the johns and pimps may reduce violence against prostitutes by putting potential clients in fear of prosecution.

    The Nordic model enhances police involvement in an appropriate way, and facilitates a way out for any prostitutes who seek it.

    The Nordic model can be adapted to Canada easily.

    It is already illegal here to procure services from prostitutes under 18. The law should keep this provision as part of the adapted Nordic model.

    It can be extended to ban all purchasing of sex in Canada."(snip)


    While this opinion piece pre-dates the release of the bill, it should be fairly obvious that there was major concern that strip clubs not be allowed to take advantage of legalized prostitution to 'officially' expand their 'menu' ... as well as major concern over the adult industry being driven 'underground' thus allowing 'organized crime' to become a dominating force !!! Instead the Sun supported the Nordic model, which the bill more or less reflects exactly.


    And unless the Tories directly refer the bill to the Supreme Court (which, frankly speaking, would be surprising on their end), the court doesn't get a say until someone challenges it -- a process that took 6 years the first time around.
    Yup, absent a specific referral to the Canadian Supreme Court by parliament, the normal order of events would be ...

    - new law goes into effect
    - results of new law causes financial or other 'damage' to affected businesses
    - affected businesses file lawsuit in lowest level federal court
    - appeals are filed in higher level federal courts ( by affected businesses or by the gov't )
    - eventually case comes before the Canadian Supreme Court

    Unanswered question will be whether or not a lower court judge can be found to issue a 'stay' / injunction which will prevent the law from taking further effect until the appeals process is completed ... versus the new law going into effect and remaining in effect until the appeals process is completed.
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    Don't underestimate Tom Mulcair, the man is insanely smart, and no one has ever been able to fuck Harper up in QP ever, not even Jack Layton, only Mulcair, to the point where that asshole Trudeau and Harper teamed up to change the rules to fuck over the NDP they're so afraid of him.

    Yes Mulcair has been causious on this issue, he know some of his MPs do support the Nordic Model (but others don't), but he's setting it up so when he fights the bill he won't have cacus revolt on his hands.

    And don't be so sure he can't find away to fuck up that Tories agenda, he delcared war on their "fair elections act" and got major changes fixing the worst parts of it, and that was the Tories baby, there weapon against democracy, he whipped thier ass in rail safety, over firing food safety inspectors (which they later hired back), and these are guys that don't give ground, especially with a Majority in thier hands.

    I can't make promises, but don't underestimate Tom Mulcair.

    Also a judge concidering an injuction also has to take into account that if he or she doesn't grant it they will put out of business law abiding businesses, for a law they know is unconstitutional.

    And you likely have time, they will be rising for the summer soon, so they need to put an insane push on the bill or it goes nowhere until the house resumes and if its not done by december the old laws vanish.

    All hope is not vanished.

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    I don't believe the Liberals will oppose this bill, these are the guys to decided to write a letter of support for a privacy commissioner who basically had a career of telling spy agencies how best to spy on people, an appointment critcized by the current privacy commissioner, who thought that letting China Nationalize Canada Oil sands was a good idea, whose leader thought that it was a good idea to compliment China on its dictatorship, who thought that making a joke that the real reason that Russia invaded the Crimea was because Putin was pissed Russia lost hockey at the Olympics was good international relations, who thinks that prostitution is inheriantly violent, but loves box, a sport in which he tries a beat the shit out of another man to the point of unconciousness, but prostitution is violent. This guy is a guy who says he's going be the nice guy and then goes on tour shitting on a young single mother who happened to get elected.

    Trudeau is useless as tits on a bull, so the only hope from any help from the Liberals is one of the few liberals MPs that is neither corrupt nor an asshole, and that's Irwin Colter, whose a nice guy.

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    What I have to say about this bill all summed up:

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