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    Hey everyone,
    I've gotten myself into a tricky financial situation and am considering my options--among them, to start stripping at one of several clubs around Denver. I am honestly not really nervous or uncomfortable about this option, even though I have zero experience as an entertainer. I truly *love* dancing and am good at it, am blessed with decent looks and a fit body (29 yo, 5'6", decently toned 115lbs), and my nerves are burnt out from over the years to not get disturbed by whatever might go on while working as a stripper. But, I'll confess, that despite not being nervous about this, I have never even been in a nude strip club before, so I couldn't be more of a newbie (!) Also, while I'm good with table dancing, I have very limited experience with pole dancing, in case that's a factor.
    I have a couple of other financial options to consider though, and would love to get the feedback from you ladies who have worked as strippers, and whether you'd recommend that I look into these other options first if you were me.
    I'm lucky to own my own place (a couple months ago I barely managed a downpayment on a great foreclosure deal with my life savings, *just* before I unexpectedly struck financial disaster with a 50% pay cut, such that I won't be able to afford even these modest mortgage payments--I found out about my paycut my first weekend moving into my place--whoooo! That letter was a real downer-fest.... ). BUT owning this place gives me the option to "easily" rent out my extra room, for maybe up to $600/month + utilities (actually, I have NO idea how much I could really charge here either!) to then still afford my mortgage payments and the additional income tax from renting or whatever. But, I am unhappy about this option, because according to my logic, this would mean 30days/month of sharing my living space and all the compromises that will entail, rather than maybe 4-8nights/month stripping to make the same earnings and keep that unbeatable glorious freedom of living alone, and getting to do whatever I want whenever I want, come home at any hour and sing and dance on the countertops to my favorite songs at 2am if I feel like it…. I've spent my whole life sharing little apartments with family, housemates or boyfriends, and this is the first time I've really had this all to myself, and I feel both so privileged to have it like this right now and spoiled, and really would fight to keep it, if at all possible.
    So, is that at all practical for me to think that I could earn that much from stripping in Denver 1-2 nights per week to keep my living-solo freedom, which assumes that I could average walking with at least $100 each night? With my current 50-60 hr workweeks, I could only work something in the evenings, and maximum 3 nights per week, which I feel restricts my options for extra income. Maybe renting is the "easiest" and most stable income source, but I'm sad and uncomfortable about that option. Till now I only confided in my sister that I'm considering stripping, and she strongly encouraged me to go for waitressing at some fancy restaurant instead-- that's her second job, and she says she banks on tips, up to $300/evening shift, and she thinks it'd psychologically wear away at me to work as a stripper. I'm not too worried about that aspect, and think it'd be just that much harder and take longer to land such a good waitressing job like hers.
    … so I'm weighing all these options, but should move as soon as possible on one of them. Should I go for it with the stripping, and see if it's working out for me with enough earnings first, to first-and-foremost try to keep that living-alone freedom I've quickly grown to cherish, OR, should I just suck it up about sharing my home and immediately work to find a friendly/compatible renter without having to sacrifice too too much of my lifestyle, OR… admit financial defeat, and already sell my beloved home asap and then find some really cheap apartment that I can still afford to rent alone with my current jobs?
    Thank you all so much for any advice!

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    Default Re: Considering my options...

    First of all, forget your sister's advise if she has nvr danced herself. Otherwise she really has no idea what she is talking abt. On a related note, it is not only generally easier to get hired as a dancer than a waitress, but there is a reason that dancers make the $$ that they do. If waitresses made anything approaching average dancing earnings, more girls would probably be doing that instead.

    2nd: I hope you've got your sights set on making more than just $100/nite. While 'banking' means different things to different ppl, no one banks *every single nite* & those who say they do are probably full of it. But aim high if you are going to do this, aspire to leave w/ a decent amt every nite to make it worth the shit that you will be putting up w/.

    3rd: I am currently renting a couple's basement apt. (I feel like such a stereotypical gamer ...) They are not bad ppl, but I am not particularly fond of them for a few reasons, but my main points for mentioning this are that I rarely see them (mostly bc I am a serious hermit) except for when they come down to do laundry, since they have to come thru 'my' space to reach the laundry room. There is a back entrance that goes directly to my area so I come & go when I like & w/ minimal disturbance (or advertising, from another POV). Would you be able to set up smtg like this if you do choose to rent out your spare room?

    4th: why not do both? It will certainly cut down on how much you see your tenant(s) & you can almost imagine that you really do still have the place all to yourself. You mentioned yourself that renting would ensure at least a little income for you each month. If you have that certainty, + the (relative) certainty of income from your current straight job, that can go a long way toward minimising your $$-making stress at work bc at least sm of your expenses will be covered already, rather than having to rely soley on dancing income.

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    Default Re: Considering my options...

    Why don't you just start dancing and see how it goes? It doesn't have to be a huge decision or an either or, and the best way for you to figure out which option is best for you is to actually try them out. There are a lot of threads on here about getting started as a dancer, so I won't bother going in to that, but it's really and truly not that complicated and you can always stop and never look back if it turns out it's not right for you.

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    Default Re: Considering my options...

    Thank you ladies for the advice-- I really appreciate your feedback! I definitely now agree that I should give the dancing a good try. Hopefully it will work out for me well, but most importantly to have first-hand tried it to find out! Also, that's great to hear that I could maybe be aiming for a higher average than $100/night ! I'd be really happy if I can just "count on" getting enough good nights to get over $600/month, so hope this is feasible by doing about 2 nights dancing per week.

    Thanks again!!

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    Default Re: Considering my options...

    I see a couple of problems with dancing in the scenario you present:

    1. You already work 50-60 hours a week. Expect that even a 6 hour dancing shift will require a couple of hours of "getting ready" as well as a couple of hours after work to wind down and wash away all the sweat and caked on makeup. So a 6 hour shift (where you get no breaks or face losing money when on a break) turns into a 10 hour day not even counting commute time.

    2. Will your employer have an issue with you working as a stripper? Is putting your current career at risk worth the short term gains that dancing can bring? (my answer was yes, but I worked in retail part time when I became a dancer. I didn't give a f*ck if I got fired from my stupid, minimum wage mall job.)

    3. Have you considered renting out your home and moving into a more affordable apartment while you work out the financial details? That way you get to keep your investment while figuring out how to make ends meet. Definitely talk with your accountant to figure out what the tax issues will be while acting as a landlord. It could be worth looking into.

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    Default Re: Considering my options...

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasy View Post
    Also, that's great to hear that I could maybe be aiming for a higher average than $100/night ! I'd be really happy if I can just "count on" getting enough good nights to get over $600/month, so hope this is feasible by doing about 2 nights dancing per week.

    Thanks again!!
    This really depends on your location. I don't know how things work in your part of the world, but there are clubs in my city where girls are lucky to make $100 a shift and other clubs/ dancers where anything less than $500 a shift is a crap night.

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    Default Re: Considering my options...

    Thanks for the feedback and these extra points to think about!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tourdefranzia View Post
    2. Will your employer have an issue with you working as a stripper? Is putting your current career at risk worth the short term gains that dancing can bring? (my answer was yes, but I worked in retail part time when I became a dancer. I didn't give a f*ck if I got fired from my stupid, minimum wage mall job.)
    Hrmm.. it isn't necessary to report to my current employer about having that as a side job for any reason, is it? If so, I've just been assuming that they wouldn't find out (unless a work colleague visited that club to see me dancing there, in which case, yes it could cause some minor scandal, but not enough to get me fired )

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    3. Have you considered renting out your home and moving into a more affordable apartment while you work out the financial details? That way you get to keep your investment while figuring out how to make ends meet. Definitely talk with your accountant to figure out what the tax issues will be while acting as a landlord. It could be worth looking into.
    No, I haven't considered that route yet--would be a bit hard for me to move myself out of here to an apartment, but that's definitely a good idea for another alternative to consider--thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasy View Post
    Thanks for the feedback and these extra points to think about!


    Hrmm.. it isn't necessary to report to my current employer about having that as a side job for any reason, is it? If so, I've just been assuming that they wouldn't find out (unless a work colleague visited that club to see me dancing there, in which case, yes it could cause some minor scandal, but not enough to get me fired )


    No, I haven't considered that route yet--would be a bit hard for me to move myself out of here to an apartment, but that's definitely a good idea for another alternative to consider--thanks!
    Idk of many jobs that would •require• you to notify them of taking a side job -- the military comes to mind, but other than that, not that I can think of. TdF may have mentioned that in case your current employer has sm kind of 'no moonlighting' clause in your hiring contract, or in case you considered informing them abt your stripping job bc of time crunches or that sort of thing.

    She also made a good suggestion of you moving to a smaller, more $$-practical apt while renting out your home.

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    I also want, in regard to your sister's advice, that I found waitress in to be more psychologically draining than dancing. I have much more freedom and control as dancer, and don't have to be nice to customers who puss me off.

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    Why don't you start camming? Its less taxing than dancing and you can pretty much work anywhere, anytime. I went through almost the same thing that you did not so long ago and camming saved my ass a lot. You can easily average $100 a night if you hustle well and build up regulars. Not saying that its easy, but it does bring in some good money if that is what you need.

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    I think you should start dancing ASAP. You will make way more than $100/night. You could also rent out the room on a month by month basis that way once you start making money and you don't "need" the extra income, you don't have to rent out the room for that month. Also, once you're at a club you can put up a flyer for the room on a weekly basis for traveling dancers but be wary about this because although strippers pay well for lodging, they can also be a little cray cray lol. I agree that waitressing seems much more emotionally taxing. You could serve someone for an hour and they can leave you $0. They can treat you like complete shit and you have to grin and bare it. Fuck that, stripping someone pisses you off you can curse them out or simply walk away.

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