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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    I think it really depends on the model. Someone on page 3+ isn't going to make more by charging more. They might be lucky to get a few privates in a day at a reasonable rate. If they were charging more they might get a lot less privates which evens out to a lot less money at the end of the day. I don't see how anyone not on the first page could charge super high simply because the traffic is not there to expose them to the number of people that need to go through their room to get that one guy that is willing to pay more per minute.

    I think it also depends on the day... the traffic of the site... the crowd. There are some days I make more at the end of the day by charging less. I think it comes with being a cam model for a long time, knowing how to gauge the traffic on any given day to know what will make you the most that day. Same for pricing a gold show, you just have to know how to gauge what you are working with.

    I've kind of been humbled lately by SM sucking for me the past few months, and so I've started to think about how EASY it is for those of us on the top half of the first page of SM to think that everyone just has it as easy as we do, and they really just don't. It's so easy for us to get spoiled. It took me a long time to realize this - maybe others already have lol, but once I did I actually became more grateful and have started making more money.

    i dont think some 1 on pg 3 should charge 6.99...but also not like 1.99 trying to get busy and move up. i have worked on a lot of diff sites and made it on and back to the top of most of them. the secret to moving up is charging slightly above the average price of girls around u. and then keep raising it as u move up

    traffic doesnt really mean that much. i have made more on pg like 5 of cams.com then pg 1 because of course there is not as much traffic...but it is about spenders, guys that go that far r usually serious about spending...and dont forget they can find you by key words too.

    i think changing ur prices a lot makes guys wait for u to lower ur price again

    and sm is always consistent for me....sometimes it doesnt seem like i get a lot of guys in my room or go to long without a show but i always make about the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    That site must not show everyone, because I can't find myself on there anywhere...?

    I just want to throw out there again, as I have in another similar thread.... what you charge has zero to do with your worth. If you charge less than some people, it doesn't make you "McDonalds" and if you charge higher it doesn't make you a "steak". I don't get this mentality that if you charge less you are therefore worth less, or your show is not as good, or whatever else. You can very well charge a high rate and have a crappy show... Rates do not equal worth!!!

    For private I charge anywhere from $3.99-6.99 depending on how BUSY I want to be, not depending on how much I feel like I'm worth that day. I charge $7.99-9.99 for exclusive again, depending on how BUSY I want to be. My "happy place" is $4.99/9.99 - this keeps me busy but not too busy.

    Really it comes down to this - if you want to be busier, and don't mind "dealing with" cheaper guys who might not be Mr. Charming, charge lower. If you want to have much less privates and cater to the guys who have so much money they wipe their ass with $100 bills, charge more. Charge what makes YOU the most money and what YOU are happy with. This is going to be different for every single one of us.

    Can we quit equating rates with worth please? While it's no skin off my back, I know what I'm worth, I have a feeling it really hurts others feelings.

    I didn't say I was a steak. I said my PRICES are steak prices, and LOW prices are Mcdonald's prices. In 5 min members who've purchased my services will have spent $40-45. I don't know anything on the Mcdonald's menu for $40-45, do you? I do know that you can go to a steakhouse and most dinners will start at $40. Is that not true? Some girls make great money at low prices, some girls who are expensive make shitty money but it doesn't take away the fact that there is a difference. I believe in quality, not quantity and me having steak prices that gives me quality guys who don't beg, who don't waste my time, and come back for more. I'm not saying $1.99 is horrible if that's what the girl chooses to charge but you will never see me wearing myself out for $1.99 for a 3 min pvt when I'll get $8+ for that instead. I don't have less pvts at $8.99 than I did at $5.99 after I've done some studies of my own, I just make more money. I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter what you charge. A man is going to purchase your services if that's what he wishes to do.




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    Quote Originally Posted by kortneykay View Post
    I didn't say I was a steak. I said my PRICES are steak prices, and LOW prices are Mcdonald's prices. In 5 min members who've purchased my services will have spent $40-45. I don't know anything on the Mcdonald's menu for $40-45, do you? I do know that you can go to a steakhouse and most dinners will start at $40. Is that not true? Some girls make great money at low prices, some girls who are expensive make shitty money but it doesn't take away the fact that there is a difference. I believe in quality, not quantity and me having steak prices that gives me quality guys who don't beg, who don't waste my time, and come back for more. I'm not saying $1.99 is horrible if that's what the girl chooses to charge but you will never see me wearing myself out for $1.99 for a 3 min pvt when I'll get $8+ for that instead.
    Go for it!

    You're absolutely right, there's nothing on McDonalds menu that is $40+. I'm not here to argue. Just pointing out that rates don't equal worth, because that's a common theme around here. "You're worth more than $1.99/min!" or whatever else has been said. Yep, I'm WORTH a lot more than I could possibly charge on any cam site. So, I charge what makes me the most, as should everyone.

    Like nearly everything in camming, it's just a personal thing. I will log off if I'm not getting private after private. I am totally fine with the "wham bam thank you ma'am" shows, that's just my thing. In many cases quantity over quality does make more money. I get painfully bored in the longer shows. So people should definitely keep their own personal style of camming/hustle in mind when choosing rates.

    I'm just saying that when we continue to equate rates with worth, it's unnecessarily negative and brings other people down to think they are considered a McDonalds menu rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    i dont think some 1 on pg 3 should charge 6.99...but also not like 1.99 trying to get busy and move up. i have worked on a lot of diff sites and made it on and back to the top of most of them. the secret to moving up is charging slightly above the average price of girls around u. and then keep raising it as u move up

    traffic doesnt really mean that much. i have made more on pg like 5 of cams.com then pg 1 because of course there is not as much traffic...but it is about spenders, guys that go that far r usually serious about spending...and dont forget they can find you by key words too.

    i think changing ur prices a lot makes guys wait for u to lower ur price again

    and sm is always consistent for me....sometimes it doesnt seem like i get a lot of guys in my room or go to long without a show but i always make about the same.
    It's always interesting to read different experiences because for me, traffic totally effects what I make! Big time! I think that's probably because we have different styles of camming and hustling.

    I feel like every question about camming can never really be answered because it's all just so personal and different from one person to the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kortneykay View Post
    A man is going to purchase your services if that's what he wishes to do.
    this is sooooo true

    and its funny because on imlive there was one guy that still sees me at 5.80 and he used to when i was 1.98 too lol...its like wtf why didnt i know u would pay x3 as much back then lol.

    and also..i think someone pointed this out before if a guy does a 10 minute show...
    and ur price is 3.99 its $40
    4.99 its 50
    5.99 its 60
    6.99 its 70
    7.99 its 80
    8.99 its 90
    etc...

    is a guy going to spend 50 but not 60? or 70 but not 90 if its something he wants???
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    this is sooooo true

    and its funny because on imlive there was one guy that still sees me at 5.80 and he used to when i was 1.98 too lol...its like wtf why didnt i know u would pay x3 as much back then lol.

    and also..i think someone pointed this out before if a guy does a 10 minute show...
    and ur price is 3.99 its $40
    4.99 its 50
    5.99 its 60
    6.99 its 70
    7.99 its 80
    8.99 its 90
    etc...

    is a guy going to spend 50 but not 60? or 70 but not 90 if its something he wants???
    If a guy really likes a girl and really wants to go private and has the money, I don't think he will mind spending 90 vs 70. It just seems like those types of guys are becoming less and less? Like overall members just seem more cheap, or the cheap ones are the ones that talk the most!

    I think I just lack time and patience! I have 3 kids, one on the way, I'm busy all day, by the end of the night when I get a chance to work I don't have time or patience for the longer shows. I just want a bunch of decent 5-10 minute ones that multiple guys come into so it adds up. Also I'm like, I just want to log in, make money, and log off. I try to put as little thought/effort into it as possible, the longer shows just drain me. I think it's because I feel busier and time goes by faster when I'm doing a lot of short shows vs one long one.

    I would totally be one of the higher priced gentlemen seeking cam girls if only I had more patience!

    Anyway, blah blah blah I could talk about this all day...
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    I thought it might just apply to girls with geo-block but I'm on there. It's odd.
    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    That site must not show everyone, because I can't find myself on there anywhere...?

    I just want to throw out there again, as I have in another similar thread.... what you charge has zero to do with your worth. If you charge less than some people, it doesn't make you "McDonalds" and if you charge higher it doesn't make you a "steak". I don't get this mentality that if you charge less you are therefore worth less, or your show is not as good, or whatever else. You can very well charge a high rate and have a crappy show... Rates do not equal worth!!!

    For private I charge anywhere from $3.99-6.99 depending on how BUSY I want to be, not depending on how much I feel like I'm worth that day. I charge $7.99-9.99 for exclusive again, depending on how BUSY I want to be. My "happy place" is $4.99/9.99 - this keeps me busy but not too busy.

    Really it comes down to this - if you want to be busier, and don't mind "dealing with" cheaper guys who might not be Mr. Charming, charge lower. If you want to have much less privates and cater to the guys who have so much money they wipe their ass with $100 bills, charge more. Charge what makes YOU the most money and what YOU are happy with. This is going to be different for every single one of us.

    Can we quit equating rates with worth please? While it's no skin off my back, I know what I'm worth, I have a feeling it really hurts others feelings.

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    One of the reasons you should charge more is because it makes people feel like they are getting something special!.. something worth it.. take godiva chocolates for instance.. they use shitty ingredients.. they are not quality but they market them and charge alot now don't they?? and everyone thinks they are the gold standard of chocolate!.. even though it's worthless crap haha.. I still love it though.

    I charge 4.99/6.99 and almost do hardly anything haha.. I do alot of roleplay though.

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    @SarahTime I think you are absolutely correct when you say your rates are not a reflection of your worth. And how it should be more about your bottom line. I have to remind myself of this quite often. It just gets under my skin when a guy tells me I shouldn't charge what i do. Or that I'm too expensive. I get this a lot and puts me in a bad mood sometimes. Especially when every category I'm in the girls are charging $2 and $3 dollars less than I am. I'm 4.99/5.99 on SM and lately all I hear is crickets. BUT on the bright side this weekend I've had several guys come look for me and buy shows on skype. So not all was lost. It would be nice if I made some money while I'm logged on but it just doesn't seem to be working out like that. They keep coming in "Gold Show BB?" "You cool as fuck...but I dont know about that price" The ones who swoop in and go straight to private have been missing for a long time. I have to fight myself to stay put on SM. You know what, I think I've just come to the conclusion that I dont like that site lol So I may have to attack it in a different way.

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    I recently lowered my private rate to $3.99 from $4.99 and am still moderating it from my rates page. So far I made more per hour at $4.99 overall, but I still wanna give it a bit longer to see for sure since it's been rather slow lately. We are all different and that's one awesome thing about having the new features on SM to help us work around what works best for each of us individually

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloDesire View Post
    I recently lowered my private rate to $3.99 from $4.99 and am still moderating it from my rates page. So far I made more per hour at $4.99 overall, but I still wanna give it a bit longer to see for sure since it's been rather slow lately. We are all different and that's one awesome thing about having the new features on SM to help us work around what works best for each of us individually
    i dont think its accurate....at least mine doesnt seem like it, or maybe it updates slow
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    i dont think its accurate....at least mine doesnt seem like it, or maybe it updates slow
    You just have to think about how it updates. It goes by the past 7/30/90 days. So every day the oldest day drops off and the current day is added to it. It can get very confusing if you're trying to figure it out yourself...but it seems pretty accurate for me so far.

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    $7.69/$7.69. One of the most expensive girls in my catagory. "Asian". I was surprised. Even over some Asian Pornstars... o.O'




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    I don't think pricing is a question of self-worth or value, because this isn't about who we are, it's about what the market will allow, and that is different for different models.

    I see the McDonald's versus Outback versus Fago de Chao analogy a bit differently. Yes to some degree it's about quality and experience but those things are subjective to the customer. Plenty of people consider McDonald's a great experience.

    I think the analogy works better if you look at it in terms of market. Poor, wealthy, middle-class everyone has eaten at McDonald's. McDonald's is an internationally known brand and while their prices may be lower their mass appeal yields them big dollars. Fago de Chao is less well known so they have to maximize their dollars on every sale to make money.

    So to me a McDonald's camgirl is one who has a look and personality that is almost universally appealing girl-next door(yes I know not everybody likes it but most guys will go for it), she has a large social media presence and lots of fans. She can charge a lower price because she usually has multiple guys in her private shows. She is not worth less she can simply cast a wider net, and make her money based on volume of customers.

    The Fago de Chao girl may have a more niche look or style, let's say domme she is not pricing higher because she is better or worth more, but because she will have fewer customers. It is unlikely she will have multiple guys in private if they don't have the same fetish, so if she wants to keep up with more widely appealing models she has to charge more for her service because she has to extract the same amount of dollars from fewer customers.

    In the end both models probably bring in around the same amount of money. It different business models neither is better or worse than the other. A 2.99 premium show with 3 members is 3.14/min a 8.99/exclusive with 1 member 3.15/min. Not much of a difference, and the 2.99 model isn't working any harder assuming all 3 of her members want the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rina View Post
    I don't think pricing is a question of self-worth or value, because this isn't about who we are, it's about what the market will allow, and that is different for different models.

    I see the McDonald's versus Outback versus Fago de Chao analogy a bit differently. Yes to some degree it's about quality and experience but those things are subjective to the customer. Plenty of people consider McDonald's a great experience.

    I think the analogy works better if you look at it in terms of market. Poor, wealthy, middle-class everyone has eaten at McDonald's. McDonald's is an internationally known brand and while their prices may be lower their mass appeal yields them big dollars. Fago de Chao is less well known so they have to maximize their dollars on every sale to make money.

    So to me a McDonald's camgirl is one who has a look and personality that is almost universally appealing girl-next door(yes I know not everybody likes it but most guys will go for it), she has a large social media presence and lots of fans. She can charge a lower price because she usually has multiple guys in her private shows. She is not worth less she can simply cast a wider net, and make her money based on volume of customers.

    The Fago de Chao girl may have a more niche look or style, let's say domme she is not pricing higher because she is better or worth more, but because she will have fewer customers. It is unlikely she will have multiple guys in private if they don't have the same fetish, so if she wants to keep up with more widely appealing models she has to charge more for her service because she has to extract the same amount of dollars from fewer customers.

    In the end both models probably bring in around the same amount of money. It different business models neither is better or worse than the other. A 2.99 premium show with 3 members is 3.14/min a 8.99/exclusive with 1 member 3.15/min. Not much of a difference, and the 2.99 model isn't working any harder assuming all 3 of her members want the same thing.
    Exactly my thoughts! You said it much better tho lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rina View Post
    I don't think pricing is a question of self-worth or value, because this isn't about who we are, it's about what the market will allow, and that is different for different models.

    I see the McDonald's versus Outback versus Fago de Chao analogy a bit differently. Yes to some degree it's about quality and experience but those things are subjective to the customer. Plenty of people consider McDonald's a great experience.

    I think the analogy works better if you look at it in terms of market. Poor, wealthy, middle-class everyone has eaten at McDonald's. McDonald's is an internationally known brand and while their prices may be lower their mass appeal yields them big dollars. Fago de Chao is less well known so they have to maximize their dollars on every sale to make money.

    So to me a McDonald's camgirl is one who has a look and personality that is almost universally appealing girl-next door(yes I know not everybody likes it but most guys will go for it), she has a large social media presence and lots of fans. She can charge a lower price because she usually has multiple guys in her private shows. She is not worth less she can simply cast a wider net, and make her money based on volume of customers.

    The Fago de Chao girl may have a more niche look or style, let's say domme she is not pricing higher because she is better or worth more, but because she will have fewer customers. It is unlikely she will have multiple guys in private if they don't have the same fetish, so if she wants to keep up with more widely appealing models she has to charge more for her service because she has to extract the same amount of dollars from fewer customers.

    In the end both models probably bring in around the same amount of money. It different business models neither is better or worse than the other. A 2.99 premium show with 3 members is 3.14/min a 8.99/exclusive with 1 member 3.15/min. Not much of a difference, and the 2.99 model isn't working any harder assuming all 3 of her members want the same thing.
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    Rena, that was seriously the best analogy of price rates I've seen yet!

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    That site must not show everyone, because I can't find myself on there anywhere...?
    Definitely not showing everyone. My profile doesnt show and I have no blocked zones. I typed in a few names of hosts and some show some do not.

    I wonder what the criteria is.


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    I'm on like page 20 and still get a steady stream of guys paying my $5.99 exclusive for 15+ minutes. So having lower placement doesn't mean you can't charge a higher rate.
    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    i dont think some 1 on pg 3 should charge 6.99...but also not like 1.99 trying to get busy and move up. i have worked on a lot of diff sites and made it on and back to the top of most of them. the secret to moving up is charging slightly above the average price of girls around u. and then keep raising it as u move up

    traffic doesnt really mean that much. i have made more on pg like 5 of cams.com then pg 1 because of course there is not as much traffic...but it is about spenders, guys that go that far r usually serious about spending...and dont forget they can find you by key words too.

    i think changing ur prices a lot makes guys wait for u to lower ur price again

    and sm is always consistent for me....sometimes it doesnt seem like i get a lot of guys in my room or go to long without a show but i always make about the same.

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    I charge $7.09 pvt/ $7.99 excl. I recently tried raising both and went thru a 2 week slow down. So.. I lowered the excl back to the $7.99 and have played with pvt. I had them at $6.99/$7.99 since last fall. I have been staying on page 1 usually in the middle. I definitely do better at night then during the daytime at these rates. I am thinking of charging a tip for squirting...lol I know as soon as I squirt they are out of the room.... so I really try to hold off as long as possible unless it is someone who has historically bought a long show.

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    Before reading a number of these threads and getting inspired to raise my rates, I charged $2.99 and $3.99 respectively. However, it was also at a time that I had shitty site placement and an encoder that didn't work. Now however, my encoder works perfectly, so the other night just as an experiment I lowered my rates back down to what they were and still made pg 2 because of my stream quality (I think).

    Anyway, I am wondering if I should raise my rates or not, I currently charge $3.99 and $4.99 respectively. I am also kinda new to camming so I don't have THAT many regs. I am however scared of falling into a trap of building lots of regs who come to me because I'm 'cheap' and then losing all of them when I decide to raise my rates again etc.

    Should I just start out higher and stay there?

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    Default Re: SM girls - what you do you usually charge per minute?

    There is a lot that goes into the question of pricing. How many hours are you going to work? How much money do you need to make? How much do you want to make? What price works best for that? Also what is you niche? Do you self-promote? All of these things factor in, so I would consider them, when setting a price.
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    Oh my, ya'll are cracking me up.

    Men who are horny don't go shopping for the cheapest price to get off. They are looking for a girl, a look, a sound, a niche that will make them cum. There are all kinds of free porn on the web. YET a BIG YET they want LIVE interaction... so at this point cost isn't figuring into it. He just wants to cum.

    If you are emoting what he is feeling, guys don't check the price then take you private. Once he is in & you make him cum so hard he forgets his name, then he will be back for more.

    It isn't about how many toys you have or what holes you are fucking, but giving him the experience that will have him back again & again. A connection, a body type, how you talk to him in a way that he dreams women in his real life would do.

    This isn't a pissing contest of who is charging more or if you should be less or more. Work at a level that you are comfortable with & make money at, is what's good.

    Every once in a while don't be afraid to raise your rate & believe in yourself.

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