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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    ^If you read her post, they didn't even take 50% of her money. They $210 TOTAL, $150 from the VIP and $60 house fee. It's a commission club taking from VIPs and also charging a house fee.

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    I don't know where you are working, but the fees you listed actually sound fair to me for a non dive. I personally haven't worked in big clubs, so I haven't experienced a club taking huge chunks of cash from me. This is a newer thread that has varying fees at different clubs: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...533-House-fees House fees and room fees are 2 totally different fees. I don't consider the fees my income since I'm not bringing it home. I know the first x amount of CR or lapdances will pay my house fee and tip outs, then I can start making a profit. Paying the club is like paying taxes. It REALLY sucks to pay, but paying means you are making $$.

    If you don't want them to take so much in fees, focus on the per song lapdances. If you are a quick closer and smooth talker you can make 300-400 for the 15-20 dances you can fit into an hour. But you would have to be on your game to do that constantly. Sometimes you are actually making more with the club taking a cut when you factor in effort. You may spend 1/2 an hour (sometimes longer) talking someone into the CR and get 300 for the entire hour of work, but CR customers are more likely to get multiples and tip if they really enjoy the lady. Plus, CR is usually more laid back in my experience.

    Also, it could be the extra $$ you were charged when cashing out was a late fee. You said you were 1/2 an hour late to cash out, so perhaps the fee was for that.

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by audrey_k View Post
    ^If you read her post, they didn't even take 50% of her money. They $210 TOTAL, $150 from the VIP and $60 house fee. It's a commission club taking from VIPs and also charging a house fee.
    ooooohh i thought she had to pay 210 in house fee for a dayshift, then pay another 60 on top of it?? that was how it was worded in the second post..actually, that's not bad at all. a 60 dollar house fee, and then of course they take a cut of the VIP. at least they don't take cut out of your dances, they do all 3 at my club ugh
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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    ooooohh i thought she had to pay 210 in house fee for a dayshift, then pay another 60 on top of it?? that was how it was worded in the second post..actually, that's not bad at all. a 60 dollar house fee, and then of course they take a cut of the VIP. at least they don't take cut out of your dances, they do all 3 at my club ugh
    that's what I thought also. So all they took was $60 for the house fee and $150 for the room? That isn't bad at all if you are in a city/club with earning potential. I'd willingly pay if I knew I was going to make more than I'm making now.

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    So I guess I understood right the first time. When she said $210 was her house fee, I just assumed she meant in addition to the $60, and she had made enough in stage tips for $270 to be half of her earnings. It never crossed my mind that someone would consider the club's cut of a CR to be part of her house fee.

    This thread is very confusing!

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    I would just like to say I never said you didn't understand the dancer experience because obviously you do. I'm new to posting but I've seen your posts from 2009. All I'm saying is that any stripper or anyone in any profession shouldn't leave with less than 50%. I don't even think billionaires like Bill Gates or Warren Buffett should have to gives away 50% of their money. Maybe you think it's fair to leave with less than 50%, especially if you think you'll make more the next time around. Obviously we have different perspectives, which is fine. Also no where have I stated, nor do I expect to leave with 80% of my money. But whatever. I've made up my mind on what I'm going to do. Thank you all of you ladies for your input.

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    Yup sorry about the confusion!

    In hindsight I should have just laid out the numbers and done a poll. It would have made things much simpler!

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    I mean... Fees are everywhere, regardless of where you work. Usually the fees are in line with the kind of club it is. If everyone's paying a $200 house fee, usually you'll make it back. The club wouldn't have many dancers if it didn't have an earning potential high enough to match its fees.

    Champagne rooms always get tricky too... At my club they take a solid 60% of the cost of the room, and then the host expects a tip out of my 40% cut, and then I get charged an additional 10% for cashing funny money. I'm ok with it, though, because at the end of the day I always make consistent money at my club... I'm ok with the club taking more than 50% as long as that 50% is still more than I'd be making at a different club, you know? You have to weigh the cost of working with the fees you're being charged. If hypothetically the club takes 80% of your money, but you're still walking out with 00/night vs the dive down the street where you can keep 70% but your average will be more like 0/night... What would you prefer?

    Definitely make sure you talk to the manager and get a clear understanding of what the fees are, where they're coming from, and if they're consistent. That's the most important thing to me... I want to know that the club won't charge me extra just because they feel like it. I'd say keep working there for another month or so, just to get a feel for the average earnings potential. Then weigh your options.

    Also, apologize to the DJ and make sure you tip him (and other well in the future. Like Audrey said, this is a job where you need to rely on the people around you for help. If they don't like you, it can make your job very, very difficult.

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by azaleanola View Post
    So I guess I understood right the first time. When she said $210 was her house fee, I just assumed she meant in addition to the $60, and she had made enough in stage tips for $270 to be half of her earnings. It never crossed my mind that someone would consider the club's cut of a CR to be part of her house fee.

    This thread is very confusing!
    I know, it took me a couple reads to get it as well, Melonie's (leave it to her to get the numbers before the rest of us) post is what explained it to me! And yes Simone, I've worked in clubs where they take from everything as well it sucks!

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    Quote Originally Posted by littlelizard View Post
    I would just like to say I never said you didn't understand the dancer experience because obviously you do. I'm new to posting but I've seen your posts from 2009. All I'm saying is that any stripper or anyone in any profession shouldn't leave with less than 50%. I don't even think billionaires like Bill Gates or Warren Buffett should have to gives away 50% of their money. Maybe you think it's fair to leave with less than 50%, especially if you think you'll make more the next time around. Obviously we have different perspectives, which is fine. Also no where have I stated, nor do I expect to leave with 80% of my money. But whatever. I've made up my mind on what I'm going to do. Thank you all of you ladies for your input.

    you should always leave with 100% of your $. and you did. that room cut, steak charge, etc was not your money. every billionaire like you cited has invested heavily, often at risk, and always sees much more money passing through than what ends up in the bank. just be thankful that you pay a fixed house and room fee instead of having to deal with the actual costs of running a business like insurance, lawyers, payroll, health inspectors, the list just goes on and on. all you have to do is sell rooms, give the club the cut you agreed to when you signed the contract, and get out. again, leaving with over 300 (on a day shift too!)even though you barely got any tips or table dances after that half hour makes it seem like this pretty good club to work at. if you hate it so much, just post the name because id love to travel there! lol

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    ^^^ I actually think that the 'confusing' factor involved was the clubowner charging a $60 house fee ... but the clubowner also 'waiving' that $60 house fee for dancers who weren't earning much money. The OP's house fee was 'waived' during the first day she worked, but NOT waived during the second day she worked ( even though it may have been 'waived' for other dancers also working on the second day who hadn't earned very much money ).

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    To the OP - I also think that if you are not sure what you are handing your money over for in future just ask!! "So I owe you $150 for the house cut of the VIP room and what is the extra $60 for?" Oh it's the mandatory house fee, oh, OK.

    Just because we work in this industry does not mean that every single person is out to rob us or that we are not entitled to explanations when we have to hand over cash. But if you are new in this business (I don't remember if you are) the fundamental thing to remember is that no-one is gonna hold your hand and walk you through anything. You have to make it your business to ask or observe and figure it out.

    Hope you went back to your club and talked to the manager.

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    OP, I have seen and dealt with more than 50%. I have worked at a club where we had to split our dance fee with them and on top of that pay a house of $50 AND tip the DJ, bouncers, etc. I also worked at a club that paid us something like $50 a night but we had to hand over ALL of our first VIP to them. This club was hard to get VIP dances so getting one was a chore. So even though the club charged a few hundred for the dance I walked out that night with about $100 in tips mostly (I quit not long after).

    It's not fair how some clubs scam the dancers but it's common if you want to work in clubs. I would ask what the fees were for because many clubs add in fees just to make more money.

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    There is a price to pay for working in upscale clubs. There is a price to pay that is not related to money for working in dive clubs!

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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    Did you decide to give them another try?
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    Default Re: Really pissed! Club took almost 50% of my earnings

    Hey everyone!

    I apologize for the long wait, I've been very busy with school, working at the club, and at my regular job. Yes I did go back in to the club and talked to the manager. There is technically no house fee, however if you are late, they charge a $20-$40 fee. The extra $60 that many of you considered to be the house fee was actually an "insurance fee". They said that because the VIP room is so private and no one can see into it, so they charge a $60 fee to make sure you aren't doing extras. If it ever so happens that you are caught doing extras by a cop or whatever, there is a possibility that the club will be closed down. The $60 goes towards in case the club closes down. I've never heard of this before at any other club I've ever worked at... but whatever, it is what it is.

    All in all, I decided to work at the club. The VIP room is a total bust and not worth my time. I make much better money giving regular dances and leave with well over 50% of my money, including tips. Overall I'm happy with the club now that I only do regular dances.

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