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    Default Competition at work. How do you deal with it?

    There's a girl at my club. Let's say her name is Rosalie ( it isn't, but I'm just using it for the story). I understand that as a dancer at a club, you are competing against every girl in the club, but this one just stands out, I never had things like these happen to me before.

    Let's say Rosalie and I are working the same shift. Let's say I'm on stage and a guy likes me and tips me $20, asks me to come over. I say ok, get off stage, go dance with my regular who was waiting for me to get off stage and when I come back Rosalie is sitting with a guy who tipped me $20. I have this etiquette where unless it's my regular, I don't bother guys who are already with girls. So, I move on.

    Another day, I'm dancing a table dance for a guy and another guy notices me and wavs for me to come over after I'm done. The guy I'm already dancing for keeps buying dances and by the time I'm done Rosalie is already sitting on a guy who waved at me before. As always, I move on.

    Another day a guy who buys dances from me and two other girls in the club comes in. The other two girls he buys dances from aren't working that day. I showed up for my shift late that day, so as soon as I walk in I see this guy...... dancing with Rosalie. I work the room. Then I notice that Rosalie went on stage, I come up to him, we have our usual conversation, I ask if he'd like a dance and dj calls me on stage next song. The guy says that he'll buy dances when I'm done on state, but disappears in private dance area with Rosalie for a while.

    Are these just cases of bad timing or is this girl a serious competition? She's very pretty yes, but so am I and the rest of the girls in the club. Guys somehow think that we are twin sisters or substitutes of each other and we don't even look alike!!!! I mean how do you deal with competition? Mentally and emotionally that is. How do you not notice it or not let it bother you?

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    Default Re: Competition at work. How do you deal with it?

    when a customer wants a dance from you, you really have to jump on that shit or accept the fact that another girl may very well snatch him up..and if he doesn't turn her down, you really can't do anything or be mad at her ( unless she's playing dirty..that's something i'm currently dealing with right now grrr). she does sound like competition obviously, and also a matter of bad timing, but that just means you need do up your game , be faster, and go for it..and if she's already beat you to the punch, go for the next guy and dont' dwell on it or let it bother you because it will affect your hustle. just accept it as the nature of the business..it happens to every stripper. stage has cost me a number of dances

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    Default Re: Competition at work. How do you deal with it?

    If you are still making decent $$ despite the fact that this girl gets to your waiting customers b4 you do, then you're worried because … ?

    I know when I'm hustling, unless a girl is very blatantly trying to fk w/ my income, IDGAF what my coworkers are up to. Idc bc I am busy w/ my own $$, or onstage, or doing whatever the hell else. As you pointed out, if a customer is sitting alone, they are fair game. Now, maybe this girl is deliberately noting the guys who show interest in you & scooping them up (regardless of you not being there to defend your claim) but if you are taking your time w/ other customers, then what is she (or any other girl you work w/) supposed to do?

    If it bothers you that much, then maybe cut short your visits w/ regulars or other customers, telling them you will def come back but <that other gentleman over there> has been waiting patiently for you.

    One other thing, & this is not at all meant to be mean: if a customer who 'promised' to wait for you can be so easily swayed by another girl, maybe he was not *that* interested in you in the first place.

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    Unless the other big tit goddess is working I'm not really worried. And I don't even regard her as competition because that implies that I'm worthy to be in the same category as her and I'm not. I revere her in the same pantheon as Dolly Parton.
    Other than her, I don't worry.
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    Default Re: Competition at work. How do you deal with it?

    unless she's playing dirty..that's something i'm currently dealing with right now grrr
    agreed that it's one thing to compete on an equal basis with other dancers in the club. Unfortunately, it's another thing altogether to have to compete against other dancers who are offering 'extras' as part of the bargain.

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    Default Re: Competition at work. How do you deal with it?

    If a customer is truly sold on you as his fav, he won't buy dances from other girls. I've had plenty of customers tell me, "I'm waiting for [dancer X], but I'd be happy to buy you a drink if you want to hang out."

    My customers will tell other girls the same thing. If you have truly closed the sale, they will stop looking for other girls to dance with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    agreed that it's one thing to compete on an equal basis with other dancers in the club. Unfortunately, it's another thing altogether to have to compete against other dancers who are offering 'extras' as part of the bargain.
    And if it's a hot chick sucking and fucking, "Fuggedaboutit!". Competing with that is like assaulting a Bradley tank with a slingshot. I can hold my own against toothless meth heads giving gum jobs for their next fix or 300 llb heifers fucking for Twinkies, but not with Barbies putting out.
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    Default Re: Competition at work. How do you deal with it?

    Good luck with that! This is a dog eat dog world and stripping is about the worst one can experience as far as cutthroat!

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    And if it's a hot chick sucking and fucking, "Fuggedaboutit!". Competing with that is like assaulting a Bradley tank with a slingshot. I can hold my own against toothless meth heads giving gum jobs for their next fix or 300 llb heifers fucking for Twinkies, but not with Barbies putting out.
    The 'evolution' of the exotic dancing industry in this particular direction was a major factor in my decision to finally retire from live dancing. As the number of clubs tacitly approving of 'extras' has increased, and the number of dancers willing to offer 'extras' has gradually increased, 'clean' dancers are basically left with 3 choices ...

    - continue with 'clean' dancing while seeing earnings progressively drop, as more and more customers opt for 'extras' girls

    - offering 'extras' themselves to be able to compete 'stroke for stroke' with other 'extras' girls for customer money

    - move on

    Unfortunately, in some cities at least, it's now almost impossible to find a club that doesn't offer 'extras'. And, as you point out, some number of 'Barbies' who live in such cities will make the decision to offer 'extras'. As such, the 'lion's share' of customer dollars will flow in the direction of 'Barbies' offering 'extras', followed by customer dollars flowing to 'average' dancers who offer 'extras' ... thus leaving 'clean' dancers to compete amongst themselves for the 'leftovers'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    And if it's a hot chick sucking and fucking, "Fuggedaboutit!". Competing with that is like assaulting a Bradley tank with a slingshot. I can hold my own against toothless meth heads giving gum jobs for their next fix or 300 llb heifers fucking for Twinkies, but not with Barbies putting out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    The 'evolution' of the exotic dancing industry in this particular direction was a major factor in my decision to finally retire from live dancing. As the number of clubs tacitly approving of 'extras' has increased, and the number of dancers willing to offer 'extras' has gradually increased, 'clean' dancers are basically left with 3 choices ...

    - continue with 'clean' dancing while seeing earnings progressively drop, as more and more customers opt for 'extras' girls

    - offering 'extras' themselves to be able to compete 'stroke for stroke' with other 'extras' girls for customer money

    - move on

    Unfortunately, in some cities at least, it's now almost impossible to find a club that doesn't offer 'extras'. And, as you point out, some number of 'Barbies' who live in such cities will make the decision to offer 'extras'. As such, the 'lion's share' of customer dollars will flow in the direction of 'Barbies' offering 'extras', followed by customer dollars flowing to 'average' dancers who offer 'extras' ... thus leaving 'clean' dancers to compete amongst themselves for the 'leftovers'.
    More and more, prostitution among adults is no longer prosecuted. Which I happen to think is a good thing, FWIW. I'd prefer LE focus on sex trafficking of minors and adults being held against their will.

    Exotic dancing in the US has always been an artificial substitute for prostitution. Once the crack down on brothels got in full swing in the post WW2 era, strip clubs started popping up in their place.

    I don't think we'll see prostitution ever legalized, or at least not for at least another generation or two, but it will be largely ignored in environments where it is adults making their own choices.

    If a woman wants to engage in the art of exotic dancing without having to have physical contact with her clientele, she will have to understand that she is not going to make all that much money as a performer. Even in my "clean" city, stuff goes on all the time. The liquor board is who regulates such activities, and the only power they have is to threaten business licenses.

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    I don't know girl...I can see why this is annoying. But you cannot expect to monopolise all the customers in the club. Next time a guy asks you for a dance but you have someone waiting for you, SAY SO. Tell them that you would ABSOLUTELY love to dance for them (lay it on thick to lock them in) but unfortunately they'll just have to wait one teeny-tiny minute longer because you already have a customer waiting for you. What is more than likely happening is that Rosalie is seeing you talk to guys and then go off with another one for dances, and, thinking that these other guys have rejected you already, why not give them a shot?

    If you guys both have a similar look she may be noting which customers seem interested in you. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's a basic competitive analysis from a business standpoint. When I sell my clothing line, I sell it to stores who already have purchased similar products. Same principal applies in the club. As long as one is being nice and polite about it, I think this is playing fair, and you're getting a *bit* greedy possibly. Now, if this chick was coming up to customers AFTER they vocalized that they are waiting for you, and uninvited, that's a different story, but if she just goes up to some guy sitting alone, regardless of if he just tipped you or said he would dance with you, if she asks to sit, and the customer says yes, the other dancer is definitely not in the wrong. You might be taking it too personal, try and just think of the industry in more of a business sense than in a personal relationship context. If you owned a grocery store and someone came in and bought all of your bread, you can't just expect your other customers to wait around for 2 days until your next bread shipment comes in because you want those sales too, and they won't. They need bread now, and they will go elsewhere to get it if necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    when a customer wants a dance from you, you really have to jump on that shit or accept the fact that another girl may very well snatch him up..and if he doesn't turn her down, you really can't do anything or be mad at her ( unless she's playing dirty
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    Default Re: Competition at work. How do you deal with it?

    I know how annoying this can be, I had a friend who used to try and compete with me and used to go to every guy I went to, if I let them come out the booth before me she would jump on them, she stopped in the end but it was verry annoying.
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    Tonight me and the other big tit chick killed it. Rather than compete we cooperated. And she's about 10llbs skinnier than me and 2 cup sizes bigger. I'm glad she's a clean dancer cause I'd be more fucked than Kim Kardashian at a Lakers gang bang.
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    And she's about 10llbs skinnier than me and 2 cup sizes bigger. I'm glad she's a clean dancer cause I'd be more fucked than Kim Kardashian at a Lakers gang bang
    ^^,^ Tempest, it sounds like a 're-do' is now in your future schedule !!! Co-operation is great ... while it lasts.


    I don't think we'll see prostitution ever legalized, or at least not for at least another generation or two, but it will be largely ignored in environments where it is adults making their own choices.

    If a woman wants to engage in the art of exotic dancing without having to have physical contact with her clientele, she will have to understand that she is not going to make all that much money as a performer. Even in my "clean" city, stuff goes on all the time
    Indeed, lax or non-existant enforcement of prostitution laws, in combination with the growing 'adults making their own choices' mindset, has led to 'extras' becoming 'business as usual' in the majority of US strip clubs. This puts 'clean' dancers at a clear disadvantage, because frankly they are not offering the same 'services' to club customers ... who increasingly expect to receive more 'services' than clean dancers are willing to provide.

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    Default Re: Competition at work. How do you deal with it?

    I think the OP is just suffering from bad timing and her 'twin' just happens to be the one who gets there first. Lately, I've been a victim of this, especially if I've been on stage while I've been invited to dance. I have this habit of putting on a strong pole show, then taking time after behind the stage to use sanitizer, breath spray, put jewelry back on and spray a bit of body spray before I hit the floor.

    It turns out, I may as well go get my dance feeling like a sweaty pig, because the guys get snatched up for the fact that I take too long to get to them. Or tone down my stage to get to the guy faster, which makes me sad. The one thing I do look forward to (besides potential $$) is taking advantage of a beautiful stage with my skills.

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    Default Re: Competition at work. How do you deal with it?

    I wouldn't call this "competition" in the sense that she is directly trying to compete with you... it may just be the old "you snooze, you lose" idea. I wouldn't harbor any ill feelings towards her. I highly doubt she is watching you going "Aha! I'm going to steal that customer from her." If you get off stage and spend another 3 songs elsewhere, you can't hardly complain when the guy goes to someone else. Men are fickle creatures and you will RARELY encounter one (aside from an established regular) who will, in fact, wait for you instead of picking the next girl who strikes his fancy.

    I have this happen occasionally though and have a different tack with it; there are a couple girls at work who have the same body type and/or similar vibe, so one of two things happens. Either A) the guy will buy dances from all of us, or B) if he's short on cash, he'll buy from the first one who approaches him. We actually use it to an advantage sometimes; since we know there's a good shot that Girl A's customer will buy from Girl B and Girl C, we'll tell each other to go get that guy.
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    There is no competition. Only variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odette View Post
    If you owned a grocery store and someone came in and bought all of your bread, you can't just expect your other customers to wait around for 2 days until your next bread shipment comes in because you want those sales too, and they won't. They need bread now, and they will go elsewhere to get it if necessary.
    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    If you get off stage and spend another 3 songs elsewhere, you can't hardly complain when the guy goes to someone else. Men are fickle creatures and you will RARELY encounter one (aside from an established regular) who will, in fact, wait for you instead of picking the next girl who strikes his fancy.
    Both of these statements, exactly. If these men are making the decision to ask you for a dance, they'll also quickly make the decision to dance with someone else if you wander off. It's not like you're not making money because she's snatching it all away from you - you're not making their money because you're busy making money off of someone else. Very few guys who aren't already "madly in love regulars" are going to sit in a strip club for half an hour while you finish up with someone else. It would be nice if you could schedule them all to wait their turn, but you can't, so they're going to do what's best for them, their schedule, and their horny patience levels, which is find someone else to dance with. If people think this girl is similar in look, that's why they're going for her. You can hardly blame the girl for being willing to sit down and take their money if you're off elsewhere.

    I'd even bet there have been times where a guy initially asked Rosalie for a dance, she had to finish up with someone else first, and then the guy grabbed you instead when he saw her "twin" walk by. You just didn't realize it.
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    Of course she's competition, you guys are doing the same thing and working in the same place?

    Honestly, I'm a bit confused by your post. Do you expect her to not speak to a customer just because she saw him wave you over? Or not speak to a customer because you decided to come in late that day? That's a little ridiculous. She's trying to make money just as much as you are and she has every right to speak a customer who's sitting alone, especially if she just saw him tip you $20-- that's a sign he's a good customer with money. It's your responsibility to step up your hustle and make yourself enticing enough that he turns her down even if you aren't there, are being faster than her when it comes to snatching a potential customer.

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