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    I bought the domains coming up a year. I haven't really done anything with them.

    I mostly just cam on streamate and have my voyeur cams available on rude and upload my recorded shows on rude. But I am wondering if having a website is even worth it.

    Nothing to extreme just a simple videos and photos and links to my cam shows. I already have my hands full managing my escort website and that persona and business. Camming for me is just so I can keep a float .
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    Cam girls - creating a website - is it worth it ?

    I know I have been online in the skin trade for 10 years, and I still don’t have my own member paysite. I have my escort website which is for a different business but I don’t have to worry about billing and updating regular content as often as you would a porn/tiny member site for let’s say a cam model or amateur porn star.


    I have come across many website services who offer you a membersite and billing take a percentage of sales and have a long standing online community.


    Southern-Charms
    http://www.dreamnet.com/sw/become-a-dreamgirl/
    http://www.wildrosenetwork.com/
    http://wjwebdesigns.com/recruit.shtml
    http://www.southern-charms.com/emailwebmaster.html
    http://edivamedia.com/

    or go to the route hire a designer design hustle she is a life saver she created my niteflirt page 10 years ago I am thinking of hiring her again to design my cam girl site. and then use payments with verotel or zombaio.


    So I thought I would sign up for ModelCentro come to find out I can not put my script code for my rude voyeur cams or my online status button for streamate or niteflirt. which is something I use pretty regularly the features on rude are geared for people who own their own websites or have a platform where a member site is possible for them.


    I attempted to do the Streamate Gold Club and it got me thinking what really is in a member site. videos, photos, live cam shows maybe phone sex. Now my life took some turns, bumps and pitfalls so I get it things happened where running a site for the full 10 years I’ve been online just wasn’t completely possible, plus I could figure out how to make content. I live alone no help with making videos. Plus I had this idea in my head that video had to be with fancy lights and a fancy camera from the videos I was hired to do in hopes I would have a site.


    I also have had bad experiences with porn companies claiming they will make a website for me if I shot some content for them my young years of being dumb and falling for the fame pitch got me.


    As it ifriends, streamate, cams offer a “fan club” for your members they get charged a fee you get a % and then get access to what videos and photos and when your cam schedule. If you have been camming regularly for a year you are pretty much giving and creating content and fans out there are in LOVE with you, and if this is a full-time job for you then yes having a website even it just a small wordpress setup is important.


    Now I am wondering if I am too old to give it ago but then I remember there is a niche and market for everyone and if your going to be online and put yourself out there you should be getting as much money as possible.


    I don’t own minniestclaire.com and I gave up camgirlminnie.com so now my only chance of having a space I own on the net is to buy my own domain and make it a small space for me on the net that I own and it is truly mine. I haven’t figure out billing I was thinking using verotel or zombaio, also I am thinking to get content made to hire a photographer and if I need guys to be stunt cocks put some ads out in a few places I already advertise for being an escort.


    Now it’s just a matter of saving up for a HD camera nothing to fancy something that can record in Mp4 and have good video quality and dgital camera and try and figure out how to be a master XXX selfies.
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    I'm actually not too sure. i've had mine now for 3 years and to be honest i've spent more time taking it apart, puzzling over it, and putting it back together than I have seeing any sort of success from it in terms of extra sales or extra cams shows! Still, it's a place to keep all your info together about shows, pricing, where you sell your clips etc, and it makes me feel better to have one? haha
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    I think it's worth it if you put enough into it. If you throw up a random site and don't advertise I don't think it will be worth it because you won't get too much traffic.
    If you threw up a nice site, marketed it, added a blog and used competative keywords, seo, backlinks, fresh content, and got it to #1 on google with your keywords than, yes, I think it would be worth it. There are always free tools like google analytics that you can use to see who's viewing you, how long, where they come from, etc.

    As for your age, I don't think anyone is ever too old to throw up a website. The purpose for it is to expose yourself to more clients and make more money. I'd go with adult centro (if you want something fast with billing, etc) or just hire a designer to design a wordpress site, throw up some content, integrate c4s in the sidebar, integrate all your cam links in the navigation bar, state your prices, add some social media, add your contact info like: yahoo/skype info (for a fee if you want) and start marketing it. You could charge a few bucks for your skype/yahoo username so that the guys who actually want a show will pay for it.

    Some may disagree but I think member sites are a thing of the past. I think indy sites with custom content and easy-to-contact girls will do better. If you market right you can make loads off of custom requests, block sessions (or cammodel's link sign ups) phone sex, etc other than waiting monthly for some guys to pay you $20 for your membership site. I'd go Indy all the way if I were you. Don't forget to add a pop up or static page to let people know it's an adult site and any 2257 info just in case. Also, make it so that when you're available the guys can chat live or something. Liveops is good and integrates with your site. I used yahoo's live chat pop up when they had it and got a lot of customers just by being able to chat with them while they were browsing my site. I was able to sell myself right then and there.

    I've had a few sites and I've made money off of them by blogging, using seo, and offering a lot of choices for payment options. You don't have to hire a pro photog, and you don't have to show a LOT of skin just to get guys to buy. I've made money by using content and throwing up a phone number and a few descriptions. I highly suggest setting marketing money aside for google adwords to get some instant hits. Most customers are looking for clear call to action keywords (call me now, join my live show) content, security, personalization, a way to contact you, and ease of use and navigation.
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    Model Centro is in a beta phase while the other places I posted have been running for over 10 years. because of their beta phase they told me that the plugins I get from rude a java script code won't be able to add to their website. seriously it's just like an html code you type it in upload the page and the code does the rest.

    so I am thinking yea I could have a site because I am still being asked when am I doing more videos from guys who have joined my not mine adult site. and with the climate of sex work laws in my country I think making a site might be a way to keep my head above water.

    while doing more research on building a website to keep up with the fans from being a cam model I came across http://adultmembersites.com/
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    I don't have my own adult website but I do dabble with a lot of SEO, blogging, etc. in other areas and I think that if you put the work into it, you could definitely be successful. I say this not just because of my writing experience but I have seen a few successful sites. I say that they are successful because I was doing a basic search and a few have came up. I wasn't searching for anything adult related either, so I did some research such as the Alexa and what have you. As with anything else, I believe it is what you put into it. However, I think that initially the work could get exhausting. Patience is definitely required, my sites are not doing nearly what they could because well, I lack the patience and have a short attention span. I say go for it! Good luck

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    Just make your own. Mine is wordpress and very easy to edit and maintain. It's taken me ages to find a theme I like but it's easy enough to make everything yourself with just a smidgen of HTML and CSS knowledge, and google!

    Kourtney I am no 1 in google listings for my main keywords. I just don't find it really does anything for me. Since I actually have to charge MORE for indie than on my main big box site I guess it's just never taken off for me. Perhaps it will be different for Minnie's. I know many girls do have successful websites.
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    I've sent in applications to few of these sites.

    http://adultmembersites.com/ is the only one that looks promising since they were recommended on ACF. So I will wait and see what happens.
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    I've sent in applications to few of these sites.

    http://adultmembersites.com/ is the only one that looks promising since they were recommended on ACF. So I will wait and see what happens.
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    ive had my site for lil over 6yrs.. its thru cirtex hosting. i have unlimited bandwidth in such.. i use wordpress though so much easier... when i started out i had a members site, then eventually got rid of it because its too much as far as making enough content to start out, then updating every week or whatever the schedule was... so now its mainly a promo site for everything i do.. my site is number 1 on google when my name is searched and i didnt pay anyone to do my stuff i did it myself.. well outside that flashy template i have up now lol.. i mainly enjoy having my own baby on the web that only i have control over.
    still here.... just in another chapter..

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    I made a quick site just to promote, I plan on making one focused on fetish. I used Escortdesign its free and fast to set up. When I can finally get a new computer I'm going to make a site with a little more pizzaz that's ad free. Escortdesign isn't made for camgirls but in the week since I set it up my calls have increased dramatically on niteflirt.

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    I think its worth it as far a promo. Its an easy way for guys to follow you and find out what sites you're on.

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    So I got rejected for adultmembersites.com because I mainly do cam shows on streamate.

    I am thinking of giving southern-charms a try

    my thing is photos and videos. it just me not sure how to do a photo shoot all by myself. wondering with people who have websites how do you take your own photos and videos without any hired or free help.

    I've thought about hiring a photographer but then I wonder how do I go about finding one and especially one who isn't creepy. I even had this idea I would asked my ex even though I am not too happy with him.
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    So I got rejected for adultmembersites.com because I mainly do cam shows on streamate.

    I am thinking of giving southern-charms a try

    my thing is photos and videos. it just me not sure how to do a photo shoot all by myself. wondering with people who have websites how do you take your own photos and videos without any hired or free help.

    I've thought about hiring a photographer but then I wonder how do I go about finding one and especially one who isn't creepy. I even had this idea I would asked my ex even though I am not too happy with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    my thing is photos and videos. it just me not sure how to do a photo shoot all by myself. wondering with people who have websites how do you take your own photos and videos without any hired or free help.

    I've thought about hiring a photographer but then I wonder how do I go about finding one and especially one who isn't creepy. I even had this idea I would asked my ex even though I am not too happy with him.
    Clips4sale has a section to sell photos and videos. I had photos on there but they rarely sold so I deleted it. Clips do extremely well though. You can shoot photos by yourself using a tripod. There's some on amazon for like $12. I'm not sure what kind of camera you'll be using but you can use the self-timer or a remote (if your camera came with one).

    You can find a photographer through Model Mayhem but I'd be careful because some of those guys are creepy/sketchy. If you have someone else take pics make sure you own the pics.

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    So I got rejected for adultmembersites.com because I mainly do cam shows on streamate.

    I am thinking of giving southern-charms a try

    my thing is photos and videos. it just me not sure how to do a photo shoot all by myself. wondering with people who have websites how do you take your own photos and videos without any hired or free help.

    I've thought about hiring a photographer but then I wonder how do I go about finding one and especially one who isn't creepy. I even had this idea I would asked my ex even though I am not too happy with him.
    You can create professional (at least nice) looking photos with great make up, affordable lighting, a backdrop if you want, and props. Use your camera's timer function to pose the way you want until you get the perfect shot. It's hard work but you'll save money.

    Here are two examples from my buddy. I just wanted to show you the lighting and how professional the shot is. She took everything herself with the right lighting and camera. She used to be on SC as well. She used her own lighting, props, and timer on her camera and ran her site very well when it was around. The appearance of professional looking photos can be used with just a few props and good lighting. If you have a c920 that's even better. I've created tons of professional looking pics with that using the timer.







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    you can also fix photos for relatively cheap these days. You can get a photoshop lite type of program from adobe for under a hundred bucks and do some light touch ups yourself.
    You can also get some cheap light set ups on amazon. I bought this one http://www.amazon.com/Fancierstudio-...s=lighting+kit

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    Hey minniesoporno,
    Regarding ModelCentro - we are now finishing up streamate integration - so, not rude, but we'll be able to hook in streamate+cammodels accounts/cams in.
    I can't spill too much, but I believe you might be interested. Promise you will be the first to know of the release of this functionality. And I'll be sure to post a thread too of course.

    As to making a separate page - the system does not yet support adding pages at will - it has simplified site management to its maximum, but added some restrictions as result. However, the functionality of adding non-uniform pages is also on the roadmap.

    What we can do now though is set up a subdomain i.e. rude.yousitename.com for you and forward it to an outside page (where you can add the code.) Right now the system is made for really non-techy users. We will develop more functions for advanced users and much of it are in the works already.

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    Hi minniesoporno,

    I do vanilla websites for a day job and have been thinking about launching a business doing more adult themes. Could I ask what specific features are you looking for? I have seen the sites by Veda, it seems she has been really popular.

    I'll make you a banner for free if you send me a photo to work with. I'm female and I know how to make other women look pretty. Right now I need to build a portfolio, though. (and also figure out where to buy ads, as the directory sites keep getting shut down!).

    Sorry if I'm cluttering the thread, but I wanted to throw this out there, and I thought a PM when we dont know each other might come off as obnoxious. Thanks!

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    Hey Mini,
    It is worth it in the long run. I am very proud of mine, but NONE of it was easy.

    I did a lot of networking to get the people in place that I need to work with. Network & do content trade with as many girls & guys as you can. NEVER ever walk away & count on them to send it to you. I know several porn stars who tour & use that to their advantage to work with other gals in different areas of the United States.

    I eventually found different camera guys who charge me $300 for a days rate of shooting as many stuff as I want. This way I can shoot many updates in one day. These days selfie content shot with a good mobile phone is all the rage.

    You got to get out of your comfort zone & be creative, with locations & how you shoot.

    My advice is that old cam shows, while are a bonus are NOT what a solo girl site is all about.

    Southern charms are the best when it comes to getting together & doing HUGE content trade shoots all over this country.

    You have to dedicate HOURS each week on marketing.
    Even if you go with modelcentro, you need to put 20 hours a week into marketing to get sales. But that marketing also does double duty for your camming

    For my c4s store & other clip sites I do film myself & use screen caps for the pics. I use a program www.avs4you.com to film, edit & convert the files. It is cheap, like $50 for a year or so. Also I make gifs with it, watermark & everything else, they have great tutorials on youtube.

    I do use the orbit logitech web cam to film with, it is awesome.

    You will need tons of content, NOT recorded cam shows. The first year is the hardest, guys don't join the first year, they wait. They wait until the content has been built up on the site.

    If you have clients you are friends with, don't be afraid after the main part of the session is done to put a camera in their hands to take some pics & film a short solo. You would be amazed at how many see you in a special way that comes across the camera wonderfully. Plus they like helping.

    You have more resources than you realize.

    When you work with other models often they have a boyfriend or husband that is their camera guy. So no money out of your pocket. Plus getting together & working with others brings more creativity & twist on what sells for them. I work with Angelina Castro all the time, cause she is willing to go for the crazy Ideas I come up with sometimes & I her's. LOL We laugh & have fun shooting. I never know what she will do or say on camera next. She loves that I can play the straight guy to her zany antics.

    You are right, it was hard to find good reliable people to work with, especially when most of the industry dismiss us wanting to do our own thing or use it to take advantage. I have seen many many girls go through the same thing.

    No matter what I go through personally, I make sure there is content so my site is updated. It takes a huge commitment.

    But NOW, other than marketing,which I have to do for camming anyways, I work one or two days a month on my site & make about $3000 a month. Most scenes on average cost me about $150 to $500 to shoot. But the return of $3000 is better than the stock market can get me

    Pm me if you need to know more
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    Hi minniesoporno,

    I do vanilla websites for a day job and have been thinking about launching a business doing more adult themes. Could I ask what specific features are you looking for? I have seen the sites by Veda, it seems she has been really popular.

    I'll make you a banner for free if you send me a photo to work with. I'm female and I know how to make other women look pretty. Right now I need to build a portfolio, though. (and also figure out where to buy ads, as the directory sites keep getting shut down!).

    Sorry if I'm cluttering the thread, but I wanted to throw this out there, and I thought a PM when we dont know each other might come off as obnoxious. Thanks!

    Sorry but people who come from the vanilla world do NOT know how to prevent hackers & deal with all that comes with the adult venue. You don't have the experience it takes.
    A banner is easy to make.. Until you do it for yourself. Launch a successful solo site, you have no clue.

    photoshopped pics are NOT want solo girl site buyers want, they Hate that kind of stuff.

    Not to diss you, but been in this biz 14 yrs. Do it for yourself first, then bring on other models once you find success like Vickie Vett did. Proof is in the pudding. I say this to save you & Mini lots of time & heartache.

    Sam

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    well, I actually also wrote the proprietary software that handles the payouts for a major porn host, and also rewrote part of their internal accounting system, so I do have that experience for a company. althogh not so much for individuals.

    I thank you for your advice Sam38g because I have read your other posts, and I've seen you as a person who sincerely tries to help other dancers.
    You are correct that I need to do even more research.

    I'm hadn't thought of starting my own site, personally. Was just offering to build Wordpress themes and custom sites for other people. Maybe I need to be looking at a different angle though. I did think when I looked at the Veda portfolio that those girls looked photoshopped. I thought her sites have a formal feel in general , with lots of curly wedding fonts and the brocade in the background. Do site visitors dislike that now? Or is is just that its wrong for a camgirl?

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    well, I actually also wrote the proprietary software that handles the payouts for a major porn host, and also rewrote part of their internal accounting system, so I do have that experience for a company. althogh not so much for individuals.

    I thank you for your advice Sam38g because I have read your other posts, and I've seen you as a person who sincerely tries to help other dancers.
    You are correct that I need to do even more research.

    I'm hadn't thought of starting my own site, personally. Was just offering to build Wordpress themes and custom sites for other people. Maybe I need to be looking at a different angle though. I did think when I looked at the Veda portfolio that those girls looked photoshopped. I thought her sites have a formal feel in general , with lots of curly wedding fonts and the brocade in the background. Do site visitors dislike that now? Or is is just that its wrong for a camgirl?
    Guy are simple. We over think & work everything. Men are straight to the point & don't. While it may show off your talents & ego, men prefer simple & fast download.

    There are nuances that behind the scenes people just dont get. There is tons of feedback they don't get either that one gets from experiencing things themselves.

    Becoming a cam model, building your own pay site for yourself instead of another girl first lets you be the ginny pig & figure out what works & what doesn't without costing the other person money or profits.


    Having first hand knowledge is a great value. My site has been hacked in the beginning. Last year brute force attacked & tried to take down due to my stance on condoms. Things happen

    Quite frankly the most important thing to a successful site is converting traffic. 99% of the webmasters do not have that ability. They count on the talent to bring that in & the talent counts on the webmaster for it. This is the main reason most solo girl sites fail. Both if it is a profit split are not getting back their initial investment or on going cost so they stop. If the girl is paying a webmaster, she doesn't see the point of continuing to pay them if there is no profit.

    Neither one putting in the 20 to 30 hours of marketing & building of social media that it takes today to get converting traffic. Hence why I admire Vickie Vett, she excels in social media traffic, teaches all her girls how to do that too. This is why her girls sites make money. But she rarely takes on a new girl. And when she does they better have a year or two of good content shot & be dependable.

    It isn't about making it look pretty, it is about being strong in getting converting traffic.

    Good Luck,
    Sam

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    Sorry to jump in but...

    Wow! @ Sam38g! This came at the perfect time I think. I have been researching all week about buying a camcorder to upgrade my clip quality finally. I have been using the Logitech C920 always and was upgrading to a 4-500 dollar camcorder. You use the Orbit for your clips?? Definitely something to consider. Do you ever do really up close shots and still get clear pics?


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    Sorry to jump in but...

    Wow! @ Sam38g! This came at the perfect time I think. I have been researching all week about buying a camcorder to upgrade my clip quality finally. I have been using the Logitech C920 always and was upgrading to a 4-500 dollar camcorder. You use the Orbit for your clips?? Definitely something to consider. Do you ever do really up close shots and still get clear pics?
    Crystal clear & with the avs4you recorder I can see what I am doing while filming. So no more stressing if I got the camera angle right. Plus I have to go into the software & turn off the automatic focus crap. Which cause it to blur a lot because it cant decide which is bigger my boobs or head so it is always refocusing.

    I love it. www.clips4sale.com/store/47130 stuff shot in my bedroom done with my orbit

    Sam

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