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    Now I don't know if it's a South Florida thing but I go around,asking if they want company, introducing myself, asking the guys if they're having a good time, asking about them, eventually bringing up a dance. Now, this process takes anywhere between 5 to 10 minutes depending on the money vibe I get from the guy. I always get a, "I don't do dances (then they really don't buy the whole night)", "I just got one.", "I just got here. (bs, bitch, it's been half an hour)".

    What can I do to get these fuckers to stop being pussies and actually contribute to the functionality of the strip club? Last night was horrendous. BS'ers claiming to be basketball players and this one dude was buying all of their dances, drunk old men who clutched their fucking wallets for dear life, or rude idiots who think I actually want their time. I basically worked for fucking free last night. $16 after having to leave early. The housemom bitched out the DJ for me (btw, that was my second night stripping ever) and told me to work on her shift, Wednesdays through Saturday. It was a Monday night and very dead even to the few nice guys. So I'm hoping the weekend will be better? But I need to know what I'm doing wrong.

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    3 song rule. Move on after that.
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    have you read through the stickies in hustle hut? look at the two "opening lines" threads, those have really helped me..a guy will *most of the time* know if he's going to buy a dance from you within a few minutes so most of the time you do not need to sit there for 10 minutes warming them up. its something i struggle with as well.
    lately i've been getting more aggressive and WAY more flirty..lots of body language, and light touching, and sexy eyes and then closing fast with a witty, sexy line.
    do you notice these guys getting dances from any other girls, or are they just cheap in general?

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    Most of the guys in the club are just cheap. I only made a nice amount on Sunday because of a guy who really liked me. It seems like no one wants a sweet girl who seem s genuinely interested in them. I'm thinking of going more aggressive and hurting their ego when they say that they don't do dances with a come back like, "Oh it's okay. You probably don't have much money on you anyway." and see how that works for me.

    My looks are as follows: 6'0 without the heels about 6'4 or 5 with; Caramel-mocha colored skin; slightly bitchy face but when I smile people relax; 36DD breasts.

    Essentially, I have a great body! I think I should use my bitch resting face to my advantage and let them see that I will only smile when I get money in my thong or a hand to go to the back for a private dance. I try to be nice and respectful but I think it's time to pull out the big guns and start acting like a cunt the way I typically do to guys OTC. I overcompensate with friendliness because I know I have a very mean face. I'd be richer if I had a dollar for every time someone I didn't know said I looked angry when I'm really just thinking lol Seems like I need to switch my persona from sweet 18 year old to ice queen. Which would be a lot easier for me because I HATE talking to the cheapskates.

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    I have huge (fake) tits and I use them to my advantage. I suggest you do the same.
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    You're not doing anything wrong but it won't happen for you over night. Just go in and observe others first but still work your game. You have to get a feel for the club so you can strategize how to approach each customer. Every guy is not going to like you but you can still get him to pay you. Don't be too nice! Be confident and have a diva attitude but not too bitchy. Be flirty, but like I said before, you may not be everyone's type. I'm African American slim build, a cups, etc. when I approach a guy I'm always flirty and seductive because it's not inappropriate , it's a strip club. My goal is to talk to every guy even if I'm not his type because you never know. Just imagine flirting with a guy that you really like)

    I hope that was helpful

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    You're not doing anything wrong but it won't happen for you over night. Just go in and observe others first but still work your game. You have to get a feel for the club so you can strategize how to approach each customer. Every guy is not going to like you but you can still get him to pay you. Don't be too nice! Be confident and have a diva attitude but not too bitchy. Be flirty, but like I said before, you may not be everyone's type. I'm African American slim build, a cups, etc. when I approach a guy I'm always flirty and seductive because it's not inappropriate , it's a strip club. My goal is to talk to every guy even if I'm not his type because you never know. Just imagine flirting with a guy that you really like)

    I hope that was helpful

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    Thank you guys. I've been told tonight that I'm not approachable because of height and that I'm too wholesome, which I am. My club is the kind where you have to talk to guys FOREVER and they still won't tip or go to the back. If this weekend isn't lucrative, I'm going to switch to a club that's upscale where I know the guys have money and understand the way a fucking strip club works. I'm basically working for free and I can't have that shit.

    At least in an upscale club, being classy is the norm and that's just me. I'm prim and proper and while I dance very well and seductively and speak eloquently, it's getting me nowhere. It doesn't seem like the right environment for me. I have a very strong "don't touch me if you're not going to pay me" attitude and I need an environment where the men get that. Not broke fuckers looking at my tits for free.

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    I work in a mid/lower range club full of cheap broke ass entitled jerks who show up for the .50 drink specials, free tits on stage, and because most nights there is no cover charged at the door. My club even offers dances on the floor (dancers always giving full contact as long as the guys aren't obviously touching them.) There is also no culture here of making it rain; stage sets earn anything from to

    I still do very well, making $60-100/hr. Here are some of my hustle tactics:

    -I almost never ask for the dance. They ask me. The way this works is I approach a customer or group like they are guests in my personal kinky sex dungeon full of all their wildest dreams and I am delighted they could make it. I am their magnanimous host. I am in charge. I flaunt my ass, neck, smile. I'm cheeky with the young ones, treat the brooding bored ones with solidarity. I touch everyone- their palms, shoulders, chest. Generally act like I am infatuated with myself. And then I WALK AWAY.

    They almost always try to stop me- "Hey weren't you going to ask me for a dance?". Then I tell them I would love to get that chance to explore their body/ help them relax/ make them excited/ show them exactly how cruel/nice I really am.

    This technique also works for couples and women- they know me, know my name, feel connected, but also never feel pressured. After a drink they'll come looking for me.

    - High volume hustle is a little different. I don't have time to talk to everyone when it gets busy so I'll just see who smiles at me while I'm marching my current victim/savior to a private session and then come back for him when I'm done and either beckon him with a snarl and my index finger from across the room or straddle him and tug his collar while saying "you're mine now" or even just "come!" This works best when the guy is also being congratulated on being chosen by his buddies who will loan him the money even if he's broke (an actual concern in my town is if they even have after buying a beer).

    The only time these methods fail me is when the club is dead- then I just try to fascinate whoever might have some money and not die of boredom. Even then I act like being at the club is this amazing privilege, I'm never bored or tired or pissed in conversation it's all just "I love what I do, I get to watch beautiful naked women, meet interesting people, and oh god do I love to move."

    My stage sets are definitely sloppy but I'm still a house favorite because I look like I'm more aroused, having more fun, and full of more energy than anyone else who goes up there.

    I do ignore the weirdos (usually young scrawny black guys who want my number) who sneer at the girls and say "yeah, I never fucking spend money in a club." But I've been wondering if it would be worth my time to taunt them into a dance or two, tell them they act like such ballers but why would I believe they're actually a big deal unless they can prove it by acting like it. Eh, might be too exhausting to deal with assholes.

    I am always scrupulously honest with customers, never start a dance halfway through a song or am unclear about pricing, I refuse to do dances, and sometimes charge double toward the end of the night but only after letting them know my prices before we go back. I treat the touchy ones like third graders, being very clear about the consequences of their actions. Nobody gets to cop a feel. I'm also a very, very clean dancer, but utilize sensuality, enthusiasm, and risqué conversation to make my customers feel like they are having the dance of their life. So they ask me if I have time for another. I end my dances by saying 'Thank you, that was fun' and I wink across the room when I see them later to make them feel special.

    Aries, I don't know if investing more time or effort in your persona is something you want. The above is just my alternative that's been effective. It sounds like Ice Queen might be something you want to explore more and I would recommend taking an approach with it that really plays up that you are the QUEEN. They are peasants (and maybe a lucky knight/champion or two) and should be honored to be in your presence, you greet your subjects, and you don't ask- you Tell them when you want them and where. Don't waste time talking for 20mins, you're too important.

    If they just got a dance ask them about it- you aren't another competing employee, you are leisurely taking time to be curious about your realm. Did he just get there? Still waiting for a drink? Well wonderful because you were planning on resting for a moment and wanted to spend it with someone fresh and young/mature. You're going to be taking up half his chair because he has the best view of the stage/ quietest spot/ darkest corner and you love watching girls on the pole/ being able to hear his voice without yelling/ feeling like you're both hiding out from assassins. Chances are he'll be watching for when you go on stage and if you dance well he'll want you.

    Or go to the upscale club! If I had one in my state I would be there so fast. I over hustle men who max out their ATM withdrawals with $100. If I had the chance to play with gentlemen whose pockets ran deeper by the fact that they were even admitted at the door (no basketball shorts, tank tops, sweat pants, plus expensive drinks and cover) and the girls actually had a standard of dress besides ripped thongs from Wal-Mart/ mis-matched neon, I would be there tonight. What's stopping you from auditioning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AriesDanceFlame7 View Post
    Now I don't know if it's a South Florida thing but I go around,asking if they want company, introducing myself, asking the guys if they're having a good time, asking about them, eventually bringing up a dance. Now, this process takes anywhere between 5 to 10 minutes depending on the money vibe I get from the guy. I always get a, "I don't do dances (then they really don't buy the whole night)", "I just got one.", "I just got here. (bs, bitch, it's been half an hour)".

    What can I do to get these fuckers to stop being pussies and actually contribute to the functionality of the strip club? Last night was horrendous. BS'ers claiming to be basketball players and this one dude was buying all of their dances, drunk old men who clutched their fucking wallets for dear life, or rude idiots who think I actually want their time. I basically worked for fucking free last night. $16 after having to leave early. The housemom bitched out the DJ for me (btw, that was my second night stripping ever) and told me to work on her shift, Wednesdays through Saturday. It was a Monday night and very dead even to the few nice guys. So I'm hoping the weekend will be better? But I need to know what I'm doing wrong.
    Also just saw it was a Monday and only your second shift ever and you left early- update us after a Saturday night when you stay 'til close And don't worry about the assholes, you learn to spot them even before they open their mouths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujahhopkins View Post
    i work in a mid/lower range club full of cheap broke ass entitled jerks who show up for the .50 drink specials, free tits on stage, and because most nights there is no cover charged at the door. My club even offers dances on the floor (dancers always giving full contact as long as the guys aren't obviously touching them.) there is also no culture here of making it rain; stage sets earn anything from to

    i still do very well, making $60-100/hr. Here are some of my hustle tactics:

    -i almost never ask for the dance. They ask me. The way this works is i approach a customer or group like they are guests in my personal kinky sex dungeon full of all their wildest dreams and i am delighted they could make it. I am their magnanimous host. I am in charge. I flaunt my ass, neck, smile. I'm cheeky with the young ones, treat the brooding bored ones with solidarity. I touch everyone- their palms, shoulders, chest. Generally act like i am infatuated with myself. And then i walk away.

    They almost always try to stop me- "hey weren't you going to ask me for a dance?". Then i tell them i would love to get that chance to explore their body/ help them relax/ make them excited/ show them exactly how cruel/nice i really am.

    This technique also works for couples and women- they know me, know my name, feel connected, but also never feel pressured. After a drink they'll come looking for me.

    - high volume hustle is a little different. I don't have time to talk to everyone when it gets busy so i'll just see who smiles at me while i'm marching my current victim/savior to a private session and then come back for him when i'm done and either beckon him with a snarl and my index finger from across the room or straddle him and tug his collar while saying "you're mine now" or even just "come!" this works best when the guy is also being congratulated on being chosen by his buddies who will loan him the money even if he's broke (an actual concern in my town is if they even have after buying a beer).

    The only time these methods fail me is when the club is dead- then i just try to fascinate whoever might have some money and not die of boredom. Even then i act like being at the club is this amazing privilege, i'm never bored or tired or pissed in conversation it's all just "i love what i do, i get to watch beautiful naked women, meet interesting people, and oh god do i love to move."

    my stage sets are definitely sloppy but i'm still a house favorite because i look like i'm more aroused, having more fun, and full of more energy than anyone else who goes up there.

    I do ignore the weirdos (usually young scrawny black guys who want my number) who sneer at the girls and say "yeah, i never fucking spend money in a club." but i've been wondering if it would be worth my time to taunt them into a dance or two, tell them they act like such ballers but why would i believe they're actually a big deal unless they can prove it by acting like it. Eh, might be too exhausting to deal with assholes.

    I am always scrupulously honest with customers, never start a dance halfway through a song or am unclear about pricing, i refuse to do dances, and sometimes charge double toward the end of the night but only after letting them know my prices before we go back. I treat the touchy ones like third graders, being very clear about the consequences of their actions. Nobody gets to cop a feel. I'm also a very, very clean dancer, but utilize sensuality, enthusiasm, and risqué conversation to make my customers feel like they are having the dance of their life. So they ask me if i have time for another. I end my dances by saying 'thank you, that was fun' and i wink across the room when i see them later to make them feel special.

    Aries, i don't know if investing more time or effort in your persona is something you want. The above is just my alternative that's been effective. It sounds like ice queen might be something you want to explore more and i would recommend taking an approach with it that really plays up that you are the queen. They are peasants (and maybe a lucky knight/champion or two) and should be honored to be in your presence, you greet your subjects, and you don't ask- you tell them when you want them and where. Don't waste time talking for 20mins, you're too important.

    If they just got a dance ask them about it- you aren't another competing employee, you are leisurely taking time to be curious about your realm. Did he just get there? Still waiting for a drink? Well wonderful because you were planning on resting for a moment and wanted to spend it with someone fresh and young/mature. You're going to be taking up half his chair because he has the best view of the stage/ quietest spot/ darkest corner and you love watching girls on the pole/ being able to hear his voice without yelling/ feeling like you're both hiding out from assassins. Chances are he'll be watching for when you go on stage and if you dance well he'll want you.

    Or go to the upscale club! If i had one in my state i would be there so fast. I over hustle men who max out their atm withdrawals with $100. If i had the chance to play with gentlemen whose pockets ran deeper by the fact that they were even admitted at the door (no basketball shorts, tank tops, sweat pants, plus expensive drinks and cover) and the girls actually had a standard of dress besides ripped thongs from wal-mart/ mis-matched neon, i would be there tonight. What's stopping you from auditioning?


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