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    Girl, Go back and read Sam's post. It might have been littered with sarcasm, and granted, I understand that's not what you were looking to hear but Sam knows a lot about the industry, and she was trying to help you by outlining all the ways this guy is sketchy and too good to be true and I think she is absolutely right that this man could possibly be a sex trafficker or pimp of some kind. You do not need any man's help to get back on your feet, you can do it ALL. BY. YOURSELF. And once you do your confidence will skyrocket. Please heed the advice given in this thread and stay away from this guy for your own safety!
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    Ok Scandy.
    I'll be honest with no sarcasm.

    First let's take a step back. Please keep this little fact in mind before you go back and read this thread.
    Studies have shown consistently that when people strong believe and/or want to believe something and get pushed on it they will very often double down on that belief and fight even harder to believe it.
    Example: Creationists completely blocking out and openly disregarding any scientific information that challenges their faith.

    That being pointed out. Think on this for a few moments before reading my next post.
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    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    There are ladies here who have been doing this since you were in high school. Many here have seen extremely scary things. Some have lived through some horrifying things. They know exactly what they are talking about.
    I don't think anyone on here honestly believes in anyway that anything good can come of this. It's not jealously. It's not that we're being cunts trying to keep someone from doing well. It's experience of getting fucked over, or watching others getting fucked over, seeing it happen in front of us before.

    Honestly if I thought this was your standard rich old man. I'd say think hard on if you can do him and if your on the verge of agreeing to screw him I'd happily point out that older dudes can fuck, and sometimes they can give you one of the best lays of your life.

    The big problem is I really don't think this is your average rich old man. I literally have hairs standing on the back of my neck right now scared shitless you will go away with this guy. I don't think I have a reputation for telling ladies to make the most conservative choices. In this case I'm not asking you to walk away, or run away. I'm begging you to jam a rocket up your ass and flyaway from this guy ASAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyaaa View Post
    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    He has made no secret about wanting to basically control my entire life.
    ^^Umm, and you didn't see this as a problem because....??? He wants CONTROL. It takes more time to really get to know someone. Everyone is on their best behavior when you first meet them, but no one can keep up the facade forever. Just because he is who he says he is doesn't automatically mean he's a good person. (For instance, the Craigslist killer comes to mind...) He's promised you $$, but not actually given it. Who's to say that once you move in, he won't just continue to lead you on with the promise of $$? (Oops, there's a problem with his bank account. Gotta wait until next month to withdraw the $$. Oh, it's next month already? Well the bank doesn't let him withdraw that much cash at once, how about a check? Oh, wait. His checkbook is lost. No problem, he can order new checks, they'll arrive in a few weeks and he can write you one then.....etc. etc. etc.)

    He's trying to control you so that eventually you'll have to give him what he wants because there is no other choice. Say he wants sex and you don't give it to him. You start to feel uncomfortable with his constant advances, and finally decide that enough is enough. How are you expecting to get out of this situation, exactly? Where are you going to live? Even if you do find another place, he's going to be upset because he didn't get what he wanted. You already said that he essentially knows all the club owners in Vegas. What's to keep him from calling them all and having you blacklisted from every single one, and then you have no place to work??

    Actions speak SO MUCH louder than words. How does he treat you? What has he given you and/or done for you so far? The only thing I got out of your post was that he has SAID he will do things for you, and he will give you money IN THE FUTURE. He wants something in return, and it's not just a business partner. He could easily find one of those who is a lot more qualified (no offense meant), and would be willing to do the job for WAY less than 30k/month.

    He obviously has a ton of money. If he wanted to help you for altruistic reasons, he would have paid your debt already. You know, since you guys have formed a close bond and he knows about your struggles and all. Nothing in life is free - There is ALWAYS something wanted in return.

    PS - This is probably one of the better possible scenarios that could happen. Many other girls mentioned sex trafficking. As kissykins mentioned, we ALL know what we're talking about, because in some way or another, we learned the same lesson the hard way. Regardless of how anyone's post is worded, we're all here to give you advice. If the delivery seems harsh, it's only because we care enough to be adamant about helping you out of a potentially horrible situation.

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    I also want to add that most rich men are very careful with their money when it comes to spending on other people. They've spent their whole lives dealing with people who want to suck from the proverbial teat; they're used to people throwing themselves at them for money. Sure, if you've been friends with them for ten years, you might get an extravagant gift from them on your birthday, or maybe they'll help you out with money if things get tight. But this guy HAS to know that girls like you are a dime a dozen in Las Vegas (as far as what he's interested in) - many girls would be with him just for the perks alone (as someone else mentioned). Most people are rich because they're smart about how they spend their money; they don't just throw it away on people they just met. People who have worked to build up their money ("self-made men") are some of the stingiest people out there. They want to see value for what they're paying, and if they don't see it, they don't pay.

    When you step back and think about it, $30,000/month is a completely ridiculous offer. It's unrealistically high. It's high enough that it could change your entire life if you even got a third of that money out of him - and he knows that. It's a high enough number that you'd risk a lot just for the possibility of it being real.

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    So far the only money exchanged is that she gave him a deposit to rent a room from him.

    Harvard graduates don't make $30,000 a month, yet you think he is going to pay you that amount.

    Jealous, hell no. I prefer YOUNG rich men & get them.

    Sarcastic? Hell Yes cause honey you can't see this is a disaster that will destroy your soul & leave you broke. I bet he does Identity theft. Con men are a dime a dozen in Vegas. Only people who want to control another person's life are horrible people who are bent to destroy as many people they can in a life time.

    But read & totally ignore the advice given even though you came here to get other's opinions. Some girls have to learn the hard way.

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    I pm'd you (skandy)

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    This sounds entirely too good to be true. I have to ask as respectfully as possible.... are you completely insane and/or naive? $30k a month, even for a live-in fuck buddy situation, is a completely absurd amount of money.

    And Sam has many, many years of experience on most of us on this board... I'd take her advice. She doesn't sugarcoat it, but she's usually right.
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    I personally don't blame the OP for wanting to believe in the possibility of this guy being the real deal. When you're in a rough situation, everything starts to look like a lifeline. And there are some very, very smooth people out there.

    She did the right thing by posting her situation on SW to ask for advice. Asking for advice is a vulnerable place to be. Let's ease up on her a little bit!

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    I'm scared for what'll happen to the OP if she does decide to move forward with this guy. Everything she's written has given me (and most if not all of us on here) a horrible feeling in my gut. We are experienced in this industry, we wouldn't be feeling this type of way if it wasn't for legitimate reasons. This site was built for us in the business to support and help one another, if you choose to ignore all of our concerns and still move forward with this "rich" guy...I'd be afraid for your safety/life. Not trying to sound super dramatic here but even if you feel like this could be the "chance of a lifetime" wouldn't you rather know you stayed on the side of cautious and didn't lose your life or end up raped or as a sex slave?

    Seriously; don't move fwd with this guy. He isn't going to end up being the guy you think he is. The living situation isn't going to be what you think it is. The professional situation isn't going to be what you think it is. You'll end up worse off mentally and emotionally in the end. This guy has by default showing you red flags, please don't ignore them.

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    ^^^
    I think she had her mind made up before she ever even asked the question on here.

    I've buried two friends who were the exact same way. They both just couldn't pass up the "chance of a lifetime" even though everyone told them it was moronic and they were risking their lives.

    One was killed very quickly and ended up decapitated and stuffed into a dumpster. That was a blessing compared to the other one who was held and tortured for weeks before he chopped her up into little pieces and distributed her body amongst six garbage bags.

    I hope it doesn't happen to OP but I've learned to detach from girls who make dangerous, idiotic decisions. I kept a bag of the decapitated girl's clothes in my closet for six years. She had left them at a friend's and I had picked them up to return them to her right before she was murdered. I couldn't bear to part with them for a long time. Somehow it felt like it was keeping her alive in a way.

    I wish everyone in this industry would use their goddamn brains but that's never going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    ^^^
    I think she had her mind made up before she ever even asked the question on here.

    I've buried two friends who were the exact same way. They both just couldn't pass up the "chance of a lifetime" even though everyone told them it was moronic and they were risking their lives.

    One was killed very quickly and ended up decapitated and stuffed into a dumpster. That was a blessing compared to the other one who was held and tortured for weeks before he chopped her up into little pieces and distributed her body amongst six garbage bags.

    I hope it doesn't happen to OP but I've learned to detach from girls who make dangerous, idiotic decisions. I kept a bag of the decapitated girl's clothes in my closet for six years. She had left them at a friend's and I had picked them up to return them to her right before she was murdered. I couldn't bear to part with them for a long time. Somehow it felt like it was keeping her alive in a way.

    I wish everyone in this industry would use their goddamn brains but that's never going to happen.
    I'm so sorry that happened.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    ^^^
    I think she had her mind made up before she ever even asked the question on here.

    I've buried two friends who were the exact same way. They both just couldn't pass up the "chance of a lifetime" even though everyone told them it was moronic and they were risking their lives.

    One was killed very quickly and ended up decapitated and stuffed into a dumpster. That was a blessing compared to the other one who was held and tortured for weeks before he chopped her up into little pieces and distributed her body amongst six garbage bags.

    I hope it doesn't happen to OP but I've learned to detach from girls who make dangerous, idiotic decisions. I kept a bag of the decapitated girl's clothes in my closet for six years. She had left them at a friend's and I had picked them up to return them to her right before she was murdered. I couldn't bear to part with them for a long time. Somehow it felt like it was keeping her alive in a way.

    I wish everyone in this industry would use their goddamn brains but that's never going to happen.
    A girl in New Orleans was murdered two years ago after leaving the club with a couple who wanted to pay her to party with them. You can never be too careful.

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    Yo, Marvelgirl why do you have to be such a fucking bitch to this girl? She has legitimate concerns and is asking for help. Chill the fuck out, dude.

    Scandy, I also find the deposit suspect. How much was it and ask if he can just waive it/give you some salary upfront for moving expenses. Why not? He can afford it apparently. Also make sure you're in touch with family, friends, etc. and they know exactly where you are! It does sound too good to be true and I do think he may expect sex (viagra, despite his age!). I don't dog a ho as long as she's a well paid ho (and I'm using this term endearingly)

    I would also not make a trip to Dubai, at least not for a while until you learn more about him and his businesses. I wish you the very best and like someone else said, trust your intuition. If there is one thing stripping has taught me about men is that they quickly sense desperation or lack of confidence when they think they are in a position of power. ALWAYS be in control of the situation, humility is good but in this situation you need to be firm and in control. You are just as important of a human being as this whale!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokikola View Post
    Yo, Marvelgirl why do you have to be such a fucking bitch to this girl? She has legitimate concerns and is asking for help. Chill the fuck out, dude.
    If you're referring to MarvelGirl's 'I wish everyone in this industry would use their goddamn brains' comment, yeah that might have been harsh but I took it as a general exasperation rather than an attack at the OP specifically. How many stories have we all seen, how many girls have we seen get hurt, how many of us ourselves have been hurt bc of the stupid things we did for $$$ or perceived opportunity? Vackra mentioned the New Orleans girl two yrs ago, & I linked Djoser's 'Too good to be true' thread for the same reasons. These are the kind of situations that ppl are taught to run screaming from, yet they hesitate or just dive right in bc if the huge amt of $$$ that is attached to the offer.

    I do have the impression the OP was leaning much more heavily towards taking this guy up on his offer, just going by the way she repeatedly said 'But ... but ... but he is saying this that & whatever-else'. If that is the case, I think a little harshness is in order bc the OP is essentially dealing w/ the sex worker's version of the guy who leans out his van window & says 'Hey pretty lady, want sm candy? '

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelGirl View Post
    LMAO

    Good luck with that.
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    If you aren't dead or a sex slave in a few months, please come back and tell us how horrible it turned out to be. Other girls could learn an important lesson from this ridiculously stupid bullshit.

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    What Sam, you've never heard of those Nigerian princes who will give you millions of their fortune if you just send them a couple grand? This is basically the same exact thing so I'm sure it's totally legit.

    LMAO, this is too rich. Is his name Dave or Rick, OP? Because those are two men in Vegas who routinely pull this exact scam on idiot women. I'm sure there are many more than just those two since this crap sadly works over and over again.

    And big wow at him showing you pictures of other women. Obviously that means he's for real. Pimps, psychos and con artists are not allowed to have pictures of women.

    Seriously though, I hope you don't die or end up raped or anything. What you're doing is beyond stupid though. You should know better at your age.
    All of this is what I'm referring to. Its unnecessary and just flat out mean. SHE should know better.
    This girl obviously doesn't know better so she is asking for help, let her. She hasn't even responded probably because of all the stupid shit people are saying without even being helpful. Thats not what this forum is about. I'm harsh myself, I am not always tactful when telling the truth but this is just sarcasm and bullying. She's telling her she is stupid, and that is not okay, you don't call someone stupid for asking for advice or asking a question. That is not how people learn and I wouldn't be surprised if this girl doesn't want to log back in and let us know if she's okay or if it worked out for her.

    A "harsh general exasperation" is what I did when I told her to stop being a bitch. She's gone above and beyond that into really tearing someone down like its a thing to do. Not cool.

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    Clean it up, people. It is perfectly doable to respond to this thread with your ideas on what might be going on without typing "LMAO" or making shitty remarks. However obvious anything might be to you personally, no one is making people listen through sarcasm and nasty comments. And if someone else is out of line, report it, rather than fight back against them.
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    I feel like this guy is grooming you for something bad
    He says he wants to be "best friends" and "business partners"? He is very wealthy and made you pay a deposit to live with him? Super rich guys don't have tenants in their own home! If he is who he says he is there is so much about this that doesn't make sense.
    He has promised you a lot of things you haven't yet received and I hope that makes you think twice about this hun.

    About the pictures he's shown you...anyone can photo shop themselves into pictures with celebs or hot women and claim it's their "ex wife", or movie star friend.

    You yourself mentioned you are a bit naive. Which is not a bad quality, but others (especially BAD people) can sense that and use it against you to manipulate or take advantage.

    A lot of the things he is claiming to be could be a facade. Don't forget his personality and "plan" for you could change very quickly once you get too deep in this. To me, this sounds like a classic con artist.

    I'm assuming your avatar is you, and you are gorgeous! Just dance, and do things the right way. Most importantly, do things the SAFE way. This situation you have described has shady written all over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokikola View Post
    Yo, Marvelgirl why do you have to be such a fucking bitch to this girl?
    Because I've tried being nice in the past and the result was two corpses. I've given up on that approach.

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    Interesting reads: "Anyone You Want Me to Be", I don't know the author. True crime story about a guy that met women on dating sites, pretending to be a good guy w/money then killed several of them after getting their $, buried a few on his farm land. All the while he was a 'good husband' w/a business & two children. Also "Slave Master", same guy, different book.


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    OP, this just sounds like such a bad idea. I know you've been through a lot, but true predators know how to use that to their advantage. It sounds like he is one. It just seems like he's making any promises you want to hear. You're a lovely young woman who's had a lot of tragedy occur, my intuition just points to this leading to another one. I'm not you, but please do consider my thoughts if I were. I'd be concerned to have my entire well being depending on one person. I'd worry what would happen if we had a fight and he cut me off. I'd be concerned about how controlling he seems and terrified of him having my personal info. I'd be hesitant to travel with him to a country where women have no rights as part of the set up. In the end, I'd try to get my deposit back. Even if I didn't, I'd just be glad to not be dependent on one old man for my well being and thrilled to be alive. I hope my post didn't sound mean, it's just coming from a place of concern.
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    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

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    I agree with some of the others, this is a sex trafficking and or pimp situation or some other con. No way he'd make u pay rent period when this $$ is on the table and is supposed to be no big deal to him. Vegas is shark city, if your naive you will be chewed up, hope you realize this before its too late!

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    OP, can we get an update? I hope you're doing well and things are working out for you, but it's making me a little nervous that you haven't responded...

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlotte. View Post
    sounds like a grade a sex trafficker.

    I agree, be careful. Some older men in organized trafficking have made a fortune off of reeling in beautiful young women & taking advantage of them.

    If he really wants a relationship with you he needs to pony up a sum of money big enough that you can afford to re-start your life if it all ends badly.

    Other than that, beware. This all sounds too good to be true...

    edit to add- MarvelGirl I think I heard about one of your friends years ago. Yes things like that do happen. We are just trying to look out for the OP.

    Also, I go to Vegas quit a bit now & can say there are a lot better pickings for sugardaddies than some really old man who has sketchy aims and is overly controlling. Hit up the casinos to find these guys, a lot of them gamble a lot as a hobby or mess around LV for shits and giggles. OP hold out for a better prospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    I agree, be careful. Some older men in organized trafficking have made a fortune off of reeling in beautiful young women & taking advantage of them.
    Yep. I read that the price of a girl's usually 10k, they can make that back in a week, then it's all pure profit


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