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    I facepalmed myself so hard tonight reading this:

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    If you're in a long term relationship and she wants to start dancing but you trust her with the faith of a child, let me tell you, she's no different than mine and will be gone 12 weeks. I believed her, wanted her to get it out of her system, have the full-life experience but after 6 years of being in what I thought was a stable, healthy relationship, she was lying & cheating, sexting and using drugs and cheating within a few weeks - then gone. They're all the same.

    I found a program on a shared computer she was still logged into a few days ago. It shows all the texts on her "stripper" number from when she started to the present. Not only has she stopped keeping the dancer life and 'real' life separate but she believes the guys she's met - even the club owners - are 'good' people worth having 'real' relationships with. That's who she's with now. She went from civil service of the public stable nice job to the so-called 'show business' of stripping and it's all gone to her head.

    I'm scared for her and imagine (and I've been told) she's slow and naive. Without my guidance and experience she's going to be 'taken in' and 'turned-out' I believe is the term. She's a young mid-twenties and has the terrible misfortune of not thinking she's slow. She thinks she's got it all under control. Sexually assaulted, diseased, physically hurt, permanently scarred - all things I fear for her. She's pretty, but not all that, she's ego-maniacal and very insecure. She did the exact opposite of what I tried to tell to do; leave the drama at the club, don't nit-pick or back-bite with the girls. Keep to yourself and find the meek, harmless guys who are just looking to pay some chick all the 20's and singles in his pocket if the nice, pretty dancer makes him feel special and just seems to honestly be listening to him. It won't even need to be sexual if she works it right. Get his number, tell him you'll call him when you're working again he "seems sane and real, better than all the crazies I have to deal with" and when you get 30 to 40 of them, you'll be making $3000 a week basically being a dancing therapist.

    What did she do? Believed she met 'good, real people' who she's made it her life to hang out with outside of the club. They're all chasing her sexually, offering her money, sending videos of their hard cocks narrated with how much they'd pay her for different things. And now she's gone. After almost a decade with a family on in the making, she's gone. Walked out without notice leaving everything but her clothes and some framed pictures of us. I've got the title to her car, signed, and she won't respond to requests to pick it up. Your's is no different - if you think she's not please don't make the same mistake as me. Don't even let her start.



    Good for her: she's probably better off without a douche like the man who posted this.





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    I'd like to revert to the '3 sides to every story' theory, ... I mean, it's CONCEIVABLE that the girl did drop that far down the SC rabbit hole, but all this vitrol, . I get the feeling this guy's post is so far removed, 'the truth' that's supposed to be sm where in the middle is probably three counties away. His poor, poor, raw-spanked ego

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    All I could think about was how this guy described his ex: he sounds so condescending and arrogant!!!!! Ok, the woman is quite the prize (we get it) but the way he's describing her just makes me smack my head against the wall.





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    Yeah he's gross. It's a shame it took her 6 years to figure that out but at least she ditched him while still in her mid-twenties.

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    Default Re: "But she's slow and naive!"

    This post reminds me of this situation:
    http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2014/0...relationships/

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    ^^ I read the story above to my husband. We couldn't help but to feel sorry for the "poor" guy. Where we live, Austin, is such a sausage fest (all sorts of single men, of all ages and ethical backbrounds) that stories like the one above wouldn't be rare.





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    LOL this dude has an elaborate fantasy of being in that Tyler Perry Marriage Counselor movie.

    Also, I love that he included "sexting" among lying, cheating, and drug abuse. I can just hear his irate/heartbroken cries of, "You sexting whore!"

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    From the dudes point of view:
    He probably got with a smoking hot chick. He thought he domesticated her. Decided to "let" her go be a "hot little stripper" to make lots of extra cash, because he can control her, because she is "slow and naive". Then she got out and had some fun. Saw a way to get the fuck out. Now he's butthurt.

    It's not unreasonable to think that some if not all of the things he said are true. Mostly he lost his obedient little puppy and venting. waahhh!
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    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    ^^He totally sounded controlling, that's for sure.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    I'd like to revert to the '3 sides to every story' theory, ... I mean, it's CONCEIVABLE that the girl did drop that far down the SC rabbit hole, but all this vitrol, . I get the feeling this guy's post is so far removed, 'the truth' that's supposed to be sm where in the middle is probably three counties away. His poor, poor, raw-spanked ego
    Agreed about the three sides to every argument and frankly, I think they are both delusional and have their issues, him being controlling -control is the ultimate illusion- and she probably has elevated sociopath scores. They're both better off with someone else. I'm tired of people like this; they are so damn predictable and pedestrian.

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    WOW he sounds like my ex who used to push me around and tell me how worthless and dumb I was all the time. He probably snatched her up in high school and she didn't know any better until she got out from underneath his thumb and into the real world...you don't stay in a six year relationship if you're dumb and a whore. Good for this girl, it sounds like she smartened up and escaped! And this guy, wtf?! It's men who are at the strip clubs paying money but it's WOMEN who can't control their libido? Give me a break!

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    ^^ My life has been a bliss since I started to ignore most "discussions" and "articles" form TUSCL.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    I'd like to revert to the '3 sides to every story' theory, ... I mean, it's CONCEIVABLE that the girl did drop that far down the SC rabbit hole...
    I've seen it happen hundreds of times. A whole lot of younger women in particular get sucked right in lol. They get into drugs, drink way too much, focus everything on their external appearance, start doing the extras--why is it that extras are so easy to get in hundreds or thousands of clubs, all across the US?

    And the average new dancer's boyfriend does generally get dumped within weeks, or months at the most.

    But the guy who wrote that was clearly a controlling douchebag.
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    I have yet to visit the TUSCL site. Though I had an ex that delighted in doing so occasionally, for laughs, & she would tell me some of the stuff they wrote.
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    What stuck out to me was the idea of making an easy THREE GRAND a week from milquetoast meek male customers. Ha ha ha, as if. I wish strip clubs were full of rich nerds, I would not have been half as annoyed trying to make a living in there.

    There are girls who fall down the rabbit hole of the stripping world, but IMO they would have ended up all fouled up wherever they went in life. "They can't all be winners".....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
    All I could think about was how this guy described his ex: he sounds so condescending and arrogant!!!!! Ok, the woman is quite the prize (we get it) but the way he's describing her just makes me smack my head against the wall.
    Hmmm... That is what hit me hardest too. If she is "slow, naive, ok to look at but not all that, ego maniacal and very insecure" why does he want to be with her? Would you want to be with someone like that? OK, who would then... Oh yeah, a control freak who believes that someone with these issues can be easily manipulated.

    I don't advocate sex industry work for anyone. It is a very difficult life sometimes, and it has repercussions because of the stigma attached to it, and now - in the age of the internet - it is FOREVER. Still, for those who can handle it and its trade offs it is a way to make decent money in a short amount of time, with little to no startup costs, which can be used to spring load other, long term, profitable ventures.

    There is a lot of this dude's posting on TUSCL that stinks of something bad. Me thinks she's lucky to be rid of the guy.
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    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    I've seen it happen hundreds of times. A whole lot of younger women in particular get sucked right in lol. They get into drugs, drink way too much, focus everything on their external appearance, start doing the extras--why is it that extras are so easy to get in hundreds or thousands of clubs, all across the US?

    And the average new dancer's boyfriend does generally get dumped within weeks, or months at the most.

    But the guy who wrote that was clearly a controlling douchebag.
    On point.

    Especially with the peripheral nonsense that goes on all around the business. There is a reason for that though and it has to do with the industry itself. This stuff doesn't take place in a vacuum. The drugs, the over consumption of alcohol, the prostitution, all the various forms of drama, etc, take place because people want it to. Club owners, party promoters, dancers and customers alike. Like any point of sale business it finds its way into markets where there is a desire for it. It stops when it is no longer profitable.

    If you want the industry to change, you have to change the people in it first. It starts with the man/woman in the mirror and spreads outward with setting a standard of "I won't tolerate this in my presence" that makes it uncomfortable for others [peer pressure]. If enough feel like minded it tilts the scale and things change.

    I wouldn't count on it though, for any number of reasons. Primarily though is the fast money. Fast money is as addictive as Ice and just as hard a habit to break. In whatever biz fast money is found the misery inducers you describe are found as well. It's the nature of fast money to attract it in spades.
    Fiat justitia, pereat mundus.


    BTW, while we are on the subject, is it needed to point out the obvious: That it is just possible that if you are willing to judge the worth of someone simply by what you read on a website about them it might say a whole hell of a lot more about you than it says about the person you are judging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    What stuck out to me was the idea of making an easy THREE GRAND a week from milquetoast meek male customers. Ha ha ha, as if. I wish strip clubs were full of rich nerds, I would not have been half as annoyed trying to make a living in there.

    There are girls who fall down the rabbit hole of the stripping world, but IMO they would have ended up all fouled up wherever they went in life. "They can't all be winners".....
    Seems like the weak and out-of-control types of both sexes are really drawn to the stripclubs. Dancers, male staff, customers. Like flies to honey...
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    That guy reminded me a lot of an ex I had. He treated me like a dumb bimbo who was a whore and didn't know any better. He tried to control me, and when it was discovered I only put up with so much he dumped me and kicked me out. He had so many red flags when I first met him but I ignored them, like the fact he wanted me to move in early on and he was much older and sought out younger women because of control. I was dancing when I met him and he convinced me to quit and work at a fast food job. I hated it after awhile (though it was better than other fast food jobs I had)and returned to dancing after 3 months away. At first he kicked me out, but then he let me move back in. However, once I moved back in he treated me horribly because "strippers are whores and whores deserve to be treated like that". He would make fun of me in front of his friends because I was "too stupid" to get another job (ignoring the fact I made more money dancing and wanted to dance). He would ask me to have sex with his friends (one friend I did because he was hot). He talked to me like I was an idiot. In fact one of his friends was surprised I was smart because he told all his friends I was a bimbo. I moved in with another dancer and was away from him and much happier.

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    ^^It's incredible how many older men sough younger women solely because they think they can control them.





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    It's sad too. That's why when I see men on dating sites who want younger I automatically assume that's why. Most people want someone their age (give or take 10 years either way)but people don't like when someone singles them out strictly based on age. When I was younger I didn't get it but do now.

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