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    i just noticed one one topic that girl claimed its really hard to have a future after a camming.. i worry. i am camming to survive because my parrents cant afford that and i am a student living faaaaar away on my own. and studying daily studies( means every day i have lectures from monday to thursday). also they arent very easy( electronical engineering and its programming). i get free studying and like 100 bucks scolarship, but not sure if its possible to survive with only 100 bucks per month. my average is 9.5/10. but if camming will impact my future, whats the pint of studying then? how to prevent myself from recorded shows or taken pictures? how to know that? how to be less visible? i dont put any photos or videos in site. i dont advertise myself on twitter, fb or other social medias. once i found video on the internet when i was topless talking. thats all. i wroted emails to those all sites and they tooked out the video. but what if there are some who are floating?? i want to be sure about my future!

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    Lots of information in more than a few threads on this subject. More recently these ones. The advice that might be given in this thread will probably reiterate what is in these ones.

    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...ons-first-HELP
    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...y-life-forever



    The best way to prevent yourself from not being recorded or having your pictures taken are to not get on cam at all. There is no sure fire way to prevent that from happening as lots of girls have learned first hand. And there are some sites that will not delete content, so in the future you might not be so lucky getting things deleted.

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    Well, since you're already camming, most of the damage is done. However, based on the info you gave in your other thread, you have much less of a paper trail than most camgirls. As long as you don't get arrested for tax evasion/distribution of pornography/whatever it would be in your area (which would be permanent proof of camming), as long as you don't list your studio or site as an employer on anything (applying for a line of credit, etc), and as long as you're not planning to go into something like politics or early childhood education, you'll probably be safe on a general background check.

    However, you could still be found out by someone seeing you online. The main issue here is pop ups/promotion and recorded shows.

    Since you're on SM, you want to use geo-blocking. Not necessarily to prevent someone in your area from seeing you (geo-blocking is only slightly better than useless in that regard) but as I understand it if you have geo-blocking enabled at all that serves as an "opt out" for all kinds of affiliate advertising. You don't even need to block your country, you can block Barbados or some other small area that's not likely to affect your paying traffic. This will also serve to make you disappear from the main page--the only people who will be able to see you on the list are people with customer accounts.

    To minimize capping, minimize the number of people who have the opportunity/motivation to cap. A lot of people will see you in free chat but not many will bother to record you and share the video if all you're doing is sitting around talking/typing fully clothed. Gold shows are a gold mine for cappers--$3 (or $0 nowadays) and they can get a broad-appeal show that they can share with the world, and since there's so many people in the show even if you find the vid you'll have no way of knowing who recorded it. The risk is lower in premium chat and lower still in exclusive (since there's only one person watching.) Of course, someone could still cap you in exclusive, but in my opinion one guy who's paying a lot of money for a show is a lot less likely to cap you than 20+ guys who paid a few bucks (if that.)

    Frequently search tube sites and porn forums for your cam name, variations of your cam name (e.g. sexxxygirl13 = sexxxyg1rlthirteen, s3xxxy_girl13, etc), and any tags, descriptors, or niches that fit you, such as brunette, bbw, squirting, milf, etc. When you find a video, DMCA their asses. It's like playing whack-a-mole but if you keep up with it it should keep your web presence down. If you find a picture of yourself somewhere where it's not supposed to be, reverse image search it to find where else the pic is on the web.

    I haven't been on SM for 6+ months so this info may not be entirely up-to-date, if it's not I'm sure someone active on SM will correct me. There is no way to be 100% sure, however, considering your choice of career (that is, not childcare-related) and the unconventional way that you've been getting paid... you've probably got a better chance than most of us at keeping it under wraps.

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    i get payments through prepaid card 0 and all i can see numbers of payments like, idk, only number of payment. but bcs im in studio, firsly studio gets 30% then it sends through its own profile to me. about my wokring knows only my ex bf and my bf( and several other people that worked in same studio or still work). once one video was found ( one daily told me). but i managed to take them out. i always check my streaming name( my real name is available only for like bunch of people who spended bunch of money for chatting with me and who cares about me), but what i find is only advertising. i never put my face on bio pic. i dont upload any videos or photos( wanted to upload a scientific vid about fero fluid but didnt). always prefer privates , and try avoid showins face after starting show ) just simply show lips not more, unless its like a regular i know really good. but i dunno. i still worry.

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    what is pop ups?

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    also no tattoos( so want but know that it gives more opportunities to be recognised). no piercings. also i have permament make up and fake eye lashes) i could change eyebrows form later maybe ! ) would change face a bit. and change my but chin by plastic surgery.

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    Electronical engineering and programming? I wouldn't sweat it one bit.

    I think this topic gets a weeeeeee bit blown out of proportion...
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    I say be smart while camming. Save, save, save and invest so when it's over and done you have a few nest eggs and can retire gracefully. If you're worried about your future create your own and start a business. There are several ways to invest as well as start businesses without your face being shown and identity revealed. I have a few friends who've quit cam to own businesses in beauty, marketing, and even phone sex. They simply hire people to do the work for them and work from home. Anything is possible; just make sure you've saved some money so you don't have to look back As for studying, I think it's wise to always invest in yourself, it's something to fall back on.




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    Quote Originally Posted by starcraft View Post
    i just noticed one one topic that girl claimed its really hard to have a future after a camming.. i worry. i am camming to survive because my parrents cant afford that and i am a student living faaaaar away on my own. and studying daily studies( means every day i have lectures from monday to thursday). also they arent very easy( electronical engineering and its programming). i get free studying and like 100 bucks scolarship, but not sure if its possible to survive with only 100 bucks per month. my average is 9.5/10. but if camming will impact my future, whats the pint of studying then? how to prevent myself from recorded shows or taken pictures? how to know that? how to be less visible? i dont put any photos or videos in site. i dont advertise myself on twitter, fb or other social medias. once i found video on the internet when i was topless talking. thats all. i wroted emails to those all sites and they tooked out the video. but what if there are some who are floating?? i want to be sure about my future!
    You're posting new threads about topics that have already been discussed over and over in other threads. So in this thread, you'll probably get responses with links to the other threads where these questions are already answered in great detail. It's too bad that you didn't find this forum sooner before you got into camming. That way, you could've given yourself time to really think it through before applying and submitting photos and whatnot.

    By the way, you shouldn't use Facebook for camming stuff anyway. Most of us don't. FB is best for your personal life, separate from camming life. Twitter is best for advertising camming stuff.
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    is there a way to delete thread then? because i looked for 20 minutes and didnt find

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    I'm pretty sure camming isn't as uncommon as we think, I bet some people just never admit to it or are open about doing it in the past. You'd be surprised how open minded people are and at how a lot of them really could care less about this sort of thing. Hell my *possible* future mother-in law knows about my camming and she doesn't judge me. Times are changing and unless you live somewhere where it's still that prude 1950's way of life I wouldn't worry if I were you.

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    You're on sm and your studio takes 30%, so you make.... 5% after all that?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by starcraft View Post
    my real name is available only for like bunch of people who spended bunch of money for chatting with me and who cares about me
    I hope that doesn't mean what I think it means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    You're on sm and your studio takes 30%, so you make.... 5% after all that?!
    she makes 50% of 30% according to her last thread...

    so $100 x 30% = $30 x 50% = $15 out of every $100 spent on her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    You're on sm and your studio takes 30%, so you make.... 5% after all that?!
    That hurts me just to read. $15.00 for every $300 earned? Um, fuck that!

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    no, 15 not 5, but 15 so whhy i shouldnt tell my first name for a guy who never got see me naked, never asked and we are spending hours just to chat??? you can find nice people there afterall! so if i say after thousands of dollars spended on me for a guy my real first name?

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    Honestly the guys who spend that much on just chatting are the ones who are most likely to get creepy/obsessive, aka exactly the guys you don't want knowing your name. Why not just tell them a fake real name? It scratches exactly the same itch for them without the risk for you.

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    Ok now I know why you say you don't do this for the money! Seriously, get out of that studio, you're crazy!
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    Electronical engineering and programming? I wouldn't sweat it one bit.
    The point about an 'adult' industry background potentially compromising future professional career opportunities is almost entirely dependent on the apparent 'risks' a future professional straight job employer thinks they will be taking if they decide to hire someone with an 'adult' industry work history. This can be a 'big deal' if the industry involves 'public trust' ... i.e. working with other people's bodies, other people's money, other people's children, etc. It can also be a 'big deal' if reputation plays a big part in a company's business model. But an 'adult' work history probably plays a much smaller part for companies where the employee has a 'behind the scenes' role.

    The two exceptions where engineering is concerned are applying for a professional engineer's license with a state professional licensing agency, or working for an employer that does work for the gov't such that employees are required to undergo a security clearance. These will prompt an 'in depth' background check, which is highly likely to turn up IRS 1099 payment reports which officially link a webcam host payer company ( which is obviously involved in the 'adult' industry ) to the person's name, address and SS#.

    Also, a big 'unknown' is the increasing use of facial recognition searches. Four years from now, after a person graduates from college and seeks 'professional' employment, will the employer be able to snap a pic of that applicant and, before the interview is over, have facial recognition match results showing 'adult content' pics and/or video clips found somewhere online showing a person whose face matches the applicant's face ??? Right now there's no way to quantify this risk. However, four years ago, adult webcam hosts didn't issue 1099 payment reports to the IRS either. And unlike four year old webcam host payments which never created a 1099 'paper trail', four year old 'adult content' pics and clips floating around the internet will still be available for facial recognition search matchups.

    And another big 'unknown' is the degree of competition which will exist for professional jobs 4 years down the road. If the particular industry highly values individual talents and abilities, and you have and are able to demonstrate those individual talents and abilities, then an 'adult' industry background will probably play a very minor role. However if the particular position simply requires a professional credential, having an 'adult' industry background could play a very big role. If the economy doesn't improve, there may also be a huge number of unemployed / underemployed Americans with professional credentials and previous work experience available. Also, there may be an increased number of foreign H1-B workers and/or DREAM workers with professional credentials available ( who cost employers less money due to their willingness to accept lower salaries, plus creating significantly lower employee benefit costs ).

    My basic point, of course, is that investing 4 years worth of study time and tuition money to obtain a college degree in hopes of landing a well-paying, secure, professional job is already a 'calculated risk' these days. Adding an 'adult' industry work history can only decrease one's chances. However, if a girl has already placed herself in the position of having a 1099 issued reporting payments made to her by an 'adult' webcam host, and if 'adult content' images of the girl already exist on the internet, there probably isn't much additional risk involved to continue camming / receive more 1099's from 'adult' businesses / creating more 'adult content' images on the internet.
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    no, 15 not 5, but 15 so whhy i shouldnt tell my first name for a guy who never got see me naked, never asked and we are spending hours just to chat??? you can find nice people there afterall! so if i say after thousands of dollars spended on me for a guy my real first name?
    You are being extremely naive to think these guys actually care about you.

    That kind of thinking will get you into the most trouble. They are customers, NOT your friends, they will NOT protect your privacy in the future. What they will do when you least expect it is tell the whole world everything ALL about you.

    Customers who insist on knowing your real name are the most dangerous of all. These are horny men jacking off. After they cum, they are disgusted with themselves & YOU. They think no more of you than the tissue they use to clean up the mess after they are done.

    If you waited tables, yes, you would be friendly. But the customers there are NOT your friends either.

    Technically, if you worked consignment from home on projects with a degree, camming would not come up. But then you could be doing those things now, building up your resume instead of camming.


    Porn once on the web is ALWAYs out there, somewhere. You going into the profession you are now, know better than anyone else. Hence why I have to assume you are a troll. A guy fucking with all of us & not a real cam girl.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thymian View Post
    I hope that doesn't mean what I think it means.
    Yikes! I'm just now reading that part of her post. OMG, please stop giving your real name to big spenders and people who you think care about you. And if they really did care about you, they'd respect the fact that cam girls are supposed to protect their personal identities, and they wouldn't give you a hard time about it. I had lost a couple of MFC tippers who thought they were entitled to my real name/phone number. They saw so many other models giving that information to their spenders, so they expected me to do the same. LMFAO.....

    Just because a man's got money doesn't mean he'll always be "that nice guy who cares about you." You'd be surprised at how some of these guys can go from being a nice, generous spender to being an entitled, butthurt, psycho troll who's now sending you nasty messages calling you a "whore." Yawn.....

    When these guys spend money on you, you don't have to do anything more than smile, thank them, and give them the flash or show they paid for. Some girls choose to send out pics/vids to certain spenders who they feel deserve it, and that's fine if you want to do that. As far as your personal information (real name, phone number, the name of the city/neighborhood where you live, Facebook page, )...nah, don't give that shit out. Save the personal information for your family members, friends and boyfriends IN REAL LIFE outside of camming.
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    Starcraft just wanted to let you know that I have probably been in youre room for a short while, and heard you talk in free chat about youre education (electronical engineering), prob was you since it is quite a special education you have choosen
    Since I wa sonly One time in youre room and allready know who you are, by reading about this post, I think you should be more carefull

    Dont tell guys in free chat youre education
    Dont tell them even in paid chat, make a fake story about youre future profession
    I think it would be more safe.. You never know who is on the other side, it can be a nice guy, it can also be a psycho guy

    Adding that you also provide youre first name+ youre education and people know youre birthcountry, maybe they allready have enough information to come and stalk you, find out where you study
    Not only stalkers but blackmailing would be quite easy if your provide them with to much information. Please be more carefull

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    Quote Originally Posted by starcraft View Post
    My real name is available only for like bunch of people who spended bunch of money for chatting with me and who cares about me
    No, no, and no!!!!

    This is so far beyond the realm of dangerous, it's on another planet. Even phone sex girls don't give out their real names. How much more dangerous is it for you whose FACE is on cam? Guys can reverse-image the shit out of you, and if you have any pictures from your private life, i.e. on a blog, Facebook page, etc, mightn't they be able to pull those up? If they have your real name to toss into the search engine, well all the better for stalker creep then, isn't it?
    From what I'm reading here, you've given your real name, your location and your educational interests? Sweetie, please, please, please stop. It's not too difficult to design a completely new life around yourself while still drawing from your personal experiences. You're already at the risk of being discovered simply by camming. Stop making it easier for them.

    Look, these viewers don't care about you, hun. They're paying for a fantasy. A FANTASY. Do NOT get it twisted with reality, because that's when you cross a seriously dangerous line. Not for them, and not for your studio, but for you.

    Do you honestly think your studio will care if someone starts stalking you? From what I've heard about studios, they'd probably just let you go so they aren't forced to deal with the headache of it all. And remember, the guy isn't spending "bunch of money" on you. He's spending it on the studio.

    That's not me trying to tell you that even if he spent $100.00 per hour on you that giving away your real name is okay. It is NEVER okay, and you need to be more careful.

    Can you be polite? Hell yeah!
    Should you give your big spenders special things? That's up to you. But those special things shouldn't be personal things.

    But don't for a moment think they truly, honestly care about you. If someone broke into your home while you were on cam and started to frighten or to harm you, do you want to know what those supposed caring guys would do?

    That's right.

    They'd probably leave the chat room so as not to have anything to do with it. They might tell another camgirl in passing, but are they gonna pick up the phone, dial the operator, try and reach you at whatever location you've given them and report an emergency to someone?

    I highly doubt it.

    This is, of course, a worst case scenario, but you need to think worst case if it's your intention to ignore our advice and to keep giving out your personal information. Because you'll be asking for it then.

    Don't do it, sweetie. These viewers desire you only for as long as their erection lasts. They may really enjoy having conversation with you, and some may be very nice guys. But do they honestly give a flying fuck about you once they've blown their load? No.

    Some are probably chatting you up to see exactly what they can get from you, whether it's free minutes, free pictures or more of your personal information. One of these days, these guys are going to demand to see you, either in a free Skype show or in person, because since you gave them your real name, you obviously care enough about them to give it all away for free.

    Don't do it. Most guys are going to milk you for all you're worth just to see what they can wring from you.

    Don't be a wet cloth, sweetie. Take control, and stop being naïve. The loss of a few big spenders isn't worth the loss of your life.

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    Sorry, double post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvyRose View Post
    Dont tell guys in free chat youre education. Dont tell them even in paid chat, make a fake story about youre future profession. I think it would be more safe.. You never know who is on the other side, it can be a nice guy, it can also be a psycho guy.
    Please also use a fake birthday. Your real name and real birthdate are really all a good identity theft needs to know to start setting up accounts with your information and basically wreck your credit. If that were to happen, camming would be the least of your problems.
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