Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 35

Thread: Am I too idealistic?

  1. #1
    Senior Member Nikatrina Fury's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    130
    Thanks
    586
    Thanked 60 Times in 26 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Am I too idealistic?

    I was talking to a friend who knows more about the sex industry than I do. He said he can't see me as a stripper. I'm not street enough. It's a rough environment. I could get stabbed, raped, etc. No decent man would want to be my husband, let alone the father of my children. Etc. etc. etc. Am I being too naive and idealistic? Do I need to take off my rose-colored glasses and get the stars out of my eyes. Feel free to tell me about worst case scenarios. Perhaps I need to drill it into myself that what I want is not really what I want.

  2. #2
    God/dess tempest666's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Hamburg, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    10,607
    Thanks
    2,705
    Thanked 13,685 Times in 4,414 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5
    My Mood
    In Love

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    Your friend is a misogynistic idiot. (Tell him I said so too). I've noticed that n00bs tend to fall into two main categories. The "party" group who think this is a topless slumber party and treat this is a place to socialize or "meet their soulmate".

    Then there are the worrywarts. I tend to favor the worrywarts more because while their concerns are legitimate, they at least take this job a bit more seriously than the little idgets who think they're going to be everyone's BFF.

    No you are not at a higher risk for rape SOLELY BECAUSE OF YOUR JOB. It can happen anytime, anywhere to ANYONE. A nun, a lawyer, a nurse, a female police officer. Observe proper safety precautions like you would anywhere else. As for finding a guy, not gonna lie the ones who can handle this job and be sane are few and far between. Don't go "looking for your soulmate" in the club. At least not after a day.

    Stop being a worrywart and enjoy this job.
    "Fake tits are like Kevlar. They don't guarantee your chances of survival but they sure as hell improve it."
    Tempest


  3. #3
    Featured Member Naida's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2008
    Location
    East Texas
    Posts
    1,461
    Thanks
    2,450
    Thanked 1,396 Times in 595 Posts

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    First of all, how is it that he "knows about the sex industry?"

    1) You don't have to be a hood rat to survive the club environment. You DO, however, need to have a backbone and be able to clearly say no. For your mental health, and occasionally physical health, set and stick to your boundaries going in.
    2) How rough the environment is will depend on the club you work in.
    -- If you work in a rough-and-tumble hole in the wall, then you may see some crazy shit go down. My first club was this sort. Some kind of fight involving customers probably once a month, more than a few of them involving dancers kicking customer asses before bouncers intervened. A couple of these were major incidents where dancers basically evacuated to the dressing room until things quieted down; one of these two was pretty much an outright, short lived riot. A peppering of fights among dancers. Some clubs are just like that, but they are the minority from what I can tell.
    -- If you work in a respectable sort of club, the occasional fight might break out between drunk/rowdy customers or there is drama in the dressing room, but it's really nothing to bat an eyelash at compared to any other place alcohol is served.
    3) A sad fact is that sex workers are some times specifically targeted for rape/violence, but that seems to mostly be a street prostitution thing. Yes, you're more likely to be groped/molested/"assaulted" (I only quote assaulted because what some people think is or is not assault will vary; ie, some women consider unwelcome groping to be assault while I would call forceful groping assault) on the clock, but I've found it to be more of an inconvenient truth of the job than a serious problem because, well, boundaries and no. Off the clock, unless you flaunt what you do, almost no one will have a clue and therefor wouldn't be able to specifically target you over the next woman.
    4) I'll target the children part first because -- let's face it and I'm going to be misandrist for a moment -- a lot of guys are too stupid to think of the consequences when the possibility of sticking their dick in a stripper is on the table. Which leads me to...
    5) This job WILL impact your love life. Whether that's for better or worse is up to personal interpretation. In my opinion, it just makes things a little more complicated because, as an open dancer, it invites just as many pricks as it susses out. A guy who is honest in the beginning that my job bothers him can fuck off with my deepest gratitude for his honesty. In that sense, it's saved me from some time wasters. After all, a guy who judges me for the face value of a single aspect of my life is not someone I want to be with. On the other hand, a lot of guys will lie and say they're okay with it when they're really not, and it can take weeks/months for their insecurities to become apparent. More fucking of the off, but this time with the disappointment of wasted time and maybe a little bummed because you liked them. But there are men out there who realize this is just a job and they are gems.

    Be safe, be smart. You got this. And tell him I second Tempest's message.
    Exotic dancing is like any other job.
    If you work in an office, you wear dress shoes and a suit.
    If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.
    If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.

  4. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Naida For This Useful Post:


  5. #4
    Senior Member Nikatrina Fury's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    130
    Thanks
    586
    Thanked 60 Times in 26 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    I wanted to clarify things. So I'm average to above average in the beauty department but a bit flat, and he was saying that I'd need a boob job to make decent money and be in a club that's above subpar. Also, I'm not looking for a guy because I already have one. My concern is if he is supportive should I actually be worried about the sincerity of his love or if he's concerned should I be thankful that he cares enough to be concerned?

  6. #5
    Senior Member Nikatrina Fury's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    130
    Thanks
    586
    Thanked 60 Times in 26 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    Also, my friend was there when I was at the lowest points in my life, so no I'm not going to call him names. He just might be thinking more from a custie POV than from a woman's POV, which is understandable because he's male.

  7. #6
    God/dess tempest666's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Hamburg, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    10,607
    Thanks
    2,705
    Thanked 13,685 Times in 4,414 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5
    My Mood
    In Love

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    On the boob job I'm going to be a bit biased. I got mine done and they've paid for themselves many times over. Big fake tits make things wayyyyyy easier trust me. I don't have to talk to people as much anymore. HOWEVER they are not a necessity. I've seen IBTC bank, but they usually have banging bods and solid hustles. You don't need a boob job to be in a respectable club, you just have to have a tight toned body.

    On the other hand if you say you're "Goth" big tits have a way of making you more "normal". Not gonna lie, my tits have gotten me everything short of a Nobel prize.
    "Fake tits are like Kevlar. They don't guarantee your chances of survival but they sure as hell improve it."
    Tempest

  8. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to tempest666 For This Useful Post:


  9. #7
    Veteran Member domina's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2014
    Location
    EST, USA
    Posts
    254
    Thanks
    375
    Thanked 538 Times in 165 Posts

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    People tell me they can't see me as a stripper either- that I would be the last person they would ever guess to be a stripper... and I've been one for almost 8 years now. Two months ago a cabbie asked me if I was new because i looked "fresh," and a new manager asked me if i "just started."

    Work in higher-end clubs and not the worst dives you can find.

    If you're not "street" enough (and does he think he is?), maybe you could afford to benefit from learning a thing or two from working in the club environment?
    I learned a lot of important life skills after working as a dancer.

    1: How to be confident/ stand your ground/ kick the asses of drunk entitled whiny idiots and send them back to their mommies
    2. Not prioritize the opinions of "friends" who pity you and talk down to you.

    REGARDING SAFETY :
    I've worked/volunteered in theaters, libraries, cafes, non-profit cultural centers, and guess what? You're still available to be harassed/ stalked/ assaulted by creeps in/around the workplace at your vanilla jobs, except you're working with your real, legal name and identity, you've got a set schedule you can't rearrange, and for way less of a paycheck.

    When I come across a creep in the club, I can avoid him/ tell him off/ use a fake name and identity/ call bouncers on him/ etc. Usually he gets the point, backs off, or loses interest pretty quick. And the vast majority of customers are normal working-class dudes who are so bored after a day at the office, etc.
    When I come across a creep in my vanilla jobs, ITS FUCKING SCARY. Way scarier. Especially if it's someone I work with. Holy shit! I get goosebumps just thinking about it.

    My aunt was mugged and killed in a parking lot of a popular convenience store when she stopped in to buy milk. Should I stop going to convenience stores? I've heard of some of my coworkers losing teeth due to dramatic pole tricks, but I have yet to hear about one of them getting murdered (knock on wood).

    Crime happens to women in public and in the workplace all the time- but you're more likely to hear reports of those committed against sex workers because that's more dramatic and interesting for the media and general public. Do you see movies/ news stories of suburban women being assaulted by a weirdo relative/ acquaintance/ classmate? Rarely! But that's a rather common setting for incidents of assault... In 90% of rape cases, women know their attackers (and are therefore unsure/ confused about reporting it), 10% of rape cases are committed by strangers.

  10. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to domina For This Useful Post:


  11. #8
    Veteran Member domina's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2014
    Location
    EST, USA
    Posts
    254
    Thanks
    375
    Thanked 538 Times in 165 Posts

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    How flat are you? Size A? Isn't there a thread in this forum somewhere about how the Stripper of the Year is a bit flat-chested?

    Boob jobs probably do help boost earnings... but you can still potentially make good money- if you're pretty and a good hustler.

    Honestly, dance or not dance, you go and do what YOU want.
    You could audition at a place and try it for a few days, no commitment, or even just go as a customer (have you tried that yet?).
    I promise you wont be raped or killed during your 3 first shifts. The odds are just WAY too unlikely.

    It would be sad if, in the end, you let THIS guy, of all people, be the one to convince you to give up something you wanted to do.

  12. #9
    Veteran Member domina's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2014
    Location
    EST, USA
    Posts
    254
    Thanks
    375
    Thanked 538 Times in 165 Posts

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    OK I understand that your friend is important to you and you need to defend him.
    But if you think about it, he is saying some things that are really offensive!!!

    "No decent man would want to be my husband, let alone the father of my children."

    Sorry, but I define "decent men" as men who treat their neighbors with respect, benevolence, and compassion... and not those who with an overinflated ego who think they have the right to judge and narrow-mindedly look down on others based on their professions.

    For those of us who have husbands and/or children... your friend's opinion is that they're not decent people?
    Men who love, marry, or have children with strippers are somehow beneath those who won't?

    How long have you known this friend?
    He deserves credit for being there when you were at some of the lowest points in your life, but, what about now? It sounds like he's not supporting you in this idea, and it also sounds like he somehow believes you're not strong or smart enough to handle it even if you tried.

    "He just might be thinking more from a custie POV than from a woman's POV, which is understandable because he's male."

    No, I dont think it's a gender thing!

    Plenty of women buy into those stereotypes about strippers and stripclubs.
    Plenty of women treat strippers with total disrespect, and expect that others do too (see: "female custies").
    Plenty of strippers actually do have awful lives, or just attitudes that life is awful, and they can't respect themselves/ other dancers/ the industry/ world in general.

    There are also plenty of male customers who are well-behaved, sane, gentle- treating dancers like human beings and expect that to be the norm.

    There is a variety of male responses you can get when you talk about being a stripper.
    There's "Wow, you're a goddess,"
    or "thats pretty cool,"
    or "that makes me feel weird, i dont know what to think"
    or "What drugs are you hooked on? Do you work for a pimp? Evil men look at you on stage and think about raping and killing you every single day, youre so weak and helpless and have no other choice, i feel so sorry for you."

    That last type really creeps me out because THEY THINK THAT WAY. They actually envision that stuff happening, and somehow they're in the picture, too, because thats a part of their world, and i can't help but suspect that they've gotten off to that fantasy before, that they've imagined themselves either as the perp or the savior or both, whatever.

    I do not want that type in my life, customer or not. Customers who bring this up and speak that way, I will walk off. Fuck their money, they can have it, I'm not about to play the role of sad beaten-down stripper just so i can make a $20. That money is tainted with pity. Sick.

    Not saying your friend is "that guy," per se, but why does he think that way? Where did he get that from? Why do you say he "knows more about the sex industry"? He's worked in it, or he knows one person who works in it, or...?

  13. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to domina For This Useful Post:


  14. #10
    Senior Member Nikatrina Fury's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    130
    Thanks
    586
    Thanked 60 Times in 26 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    I tend to know a few sex addicts. He's probably not coming off very well by the snippets I've said, but I have to admit there is a huge prevalence of ignorance out there that even good people are not immune to. There are certain groups of people that society as a whole feels free to make jokes about, disregard, etc. For example, prisoners, white trash, etc. It doesn't mean everyone who stereotypes is a bad person because we all do. I remember people slamming those with degrees for example on here. Anyways, the city I'm in is not the city where I want to strip. The industry is pretty bad off here because people in the industry are undercharging a lot.

  15. #11
    Featured Member
    Joined
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    1,881
    Thanks
    3,026
    Thanked 3,426 Times in 1,229 Posts

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    I've had friends tell me the same shit. They have no clue I've worked in clubs, and they've either not been in clubs at all, or in the case of one of them, walked into one of the shittiest BYOB clubs in Houston that allowed 18-year-olds and proceeded to shit judgment on everyone inside while making "witty" Facebook posts about it. They don't know what they're talking about at all.

    As far as the decency of men who are "okay" with stripping... Honestly, it's a relationship deal-breaker for many just because they're not comfortable with other people seeing their girlfriend naked. I can understand that being a boundary, and I can respect the people who are aware of their own emotional limitations and express them. What I can't understand or accept though is the men who say hateful things about strippers. Even before I ever considered being a stripper, I thought very little of men who said and did awful things about/to women in the sex industry, or women period. Generally, these types of men do not truly distinguish between women who work as strippers/escorts/etc and any other woman. They might pretend they do and only have a problem with "whores," but in my experience, that hasn't been the truth. They're misogynists trying to pretend they're only as hateful as everyone else who laughs along with the dead stripper/prostitute jokes.

    Re: your boyfriend... You're the one who knows him best out of all of us. I think a little bit of concern is normal because stripping isn't easy, and it does have a stigma. But you shouldn't turn this into some weird emotional entrapment where his support is interpreted as a lack of love.

  16. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to tuesdaymarie For This Useful Post:


  17. #12
    Banned Aniela's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2009
    Location
    KW
    Posts
    3,291
    Thanks
    6,920
    Thanked 5,854 Times in 2,242 Posts
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    When your friend has actually done the job himself, for more than just the couple hrs that many newbies last b4 they run away screaming & traumatised, then maybe he will have a little more room to talk.

    I have lost a few friends bc of dancing, as have sm of the other girls here -- 'friends' that called us names, said we deserved any bad thing that might happen bc of our job, that we were now inherently worth less (read: WORTHLESS) compared to non-strippers. Those kinds of ppl are not our friends & it sounds like this guy is really no friend to you. Life is too short to spend humouring ppl like that. Toss him.

  18. #13
    God/dess SweetJulia's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Rolling in a BIG pile of money!
    Posts
    2,836
    Thanks
    21,633
    Thanked 6,196 Times in 1,978 Posts
    My Mood
    Yeehaw

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    While I'm sure he knows what it's like as a customer, it's IMPOSSIBLE for him to know how stripping will be on your end. I'd look up club reviews and talk to dancers in your area onhere, that way you can find out for yourself. Best of luck
    Twitter:
    Cam profile: *Fave me, it's good for my ego
    General Pics:
    "Experience is a brutal teacher, but you learn. My God, do you learn!"-C.S. Lewis
    Quote Originally Posted by xStacey View Post
    Close contact, for an hour, for $40? And I guess I'll have to make conversation with them too?

  19. #14
    Senior Member Nikatrina Fury's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    130
    Thanks
    586
    Thanked 60 Times in 26 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    Dude, please stop bashing on my friend. He's one of the few people I'd tell and he's all like "if this is what you want to do all the power to you." I apologize for wording it wrong.

  20. #15
    Veteran Member Amira702's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Shhhhh!
    Posts
    312
    Thanks
    196
    Thanked 304 Times in 151 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    This isn't a statement to bash but your friend obviously does not know what he is talking about. I've met dancers from all over the United States, women from small towns, women from affluent suburbs, women from inner cities that are highly educated, not every dancer out there is either a Ronnie or a Diamond from Players Club. Rape and assault do happen but like others have stated, it can happen to women regardless of their profession. Rape is a huge problem on college campuses, does this mean women should skip college? No, try to be smart and minimize your risk of something happening. Nothing is 100% fool proof but I can tell you, staying sober and using your head can take you a long way. No decent man will want you? Most of the guys I know are decent guys and most of them have dated dancers or former dancers, they understand it's a job, a popular job for good looking women who want flexibility while making more than minimum wage. I danced with small boobs for years and despite being a lazy ass with poor work ethic, I still made money. I didn't get boobs with the intention of increasing my earnings, I got them because pregnancy and breastfeeding 3 kids made my boobs look like deflated water balloons and *I* hated them. No one else seemed to mind (customers or my husband). My confidence is through the roof since getting my boobs and I feel like the boost of confidence is what helps me make a lot of money. Don't over think dancing, if you want to do it, get out there and try it. Don't listen to anyone else's experience, especially if they've never been on this side of the industry. Best wishes.

  21. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Amira702 For This Useful Post:


  22. #16
    God/dess simone87's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    5,171
    Thanks
    7,361
    Thanked 9,469 Times in 3,228 Posts
    My Mood
    Cheeky

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    i'm sorry but you come on here to a dancer support forum full of DANCERS, and then quote your "friend" saying "no decent man will ever want to be your husband or father your children" , or that you will be opening yourself up to rape and assault, and other ignorant idiotic things that are completely untrue ( there are PLENTY of small breasted women who make a lot of money trust me, and many men who LOVE small breasted women) , i mean how do you expect us to react? those are extremely misogynistic ( not to mention widely untrue) things for him to say. please do not take his advice on anything regarding stripping, esp considering he has never been female exotic dancer. you may not be able to see it ( or want to see it) but your friend is giving you some very bad advice and has a very warped view of females and sex workers.. he may have helped you out in the past, but that doesn't mean he's infallible or has a healthy view of females. so yeah, i think you are being way too naive about your friend, not stripping

  23. The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to simone87 For This Useful Post:


  24. #17
    Banned Aniela's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2009
    Location
    KW
    Posts
    3,291
    Thanks
    6,920
    Thanked 5,854 Times in 2,242 Posts
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    i'm sorry but you come on here to a dancer support forum full of DANCERS, and then quote your "friend" saying "no decent man will ever want to be your husband or father your children" , or that you will be opening yourself up to rape and assault, and other ignorant idiotic things that are completely untrue ( there are PLENTY of small breasted women who make a lot of money trust me, and many men who LOVE small breasted women) , i mean how do you expect us to react? those are extremely misogynistic ( not to mention widely untrue) things for him to say. please do not take his advice on anything regarding stripping, esp considering he has never been female exotic dancer. you may not be able to see it ( or want to see it) but your friend is giving you some very bad advice and has a very warped view of females and sex workers.. he may have helped you out in the past, but that doesn't mean he's infallible or has a healthy view of females. so yeah, i think you are being way too naive about your friend, not stripping
    Lots of good advice but pay attention to this ^^^^ OP.

    Your friend gives you his blessing to dance in one breath, then in the nxt breath is all 'No decent guy would want you or to have kids w/ you'? Replace 'dancer' w/ pretty much any other job or activity & see if that makes it more palatable. That 2nd statement is basically saying, 'You [OP] are not worth a decent guy if you go ahead & do XYZ[which could also darkly be interpreted as saying you only deserve all of those wankers who he just KNOWS are going to rape you], but hey, have at it!'

    Is he inherently a bad guy? Idk. No one here is saying that he is. But when it comes to the realities of stripping, this guy does not know from Shinola, & those of us who have been in your current spot are just pointing out his red-flag statements for what they are.

  25. #18
    Senior Member Nikatrina Fury's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    130
    Thanks
    586
    Thanked 60 Times in 26 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    I think it would help if I put it another way. I was reading another thread where apparently some people are familiar with the area. We're both in the DC area. I'm sure he got his views of it from clubs in the area, which, as some of you know sucks balls.

  26. #19
    Senior Member Nikatrina Fury's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    130
    Thanks
    586
    Thanked 60 Times in 26 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    Btw I have no intentions of dancing in DC. None at all. I'll be moving far away first.

  27. #20
    Banned Aniela's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2009
    Location
    KW
    Posts
    3,291
    Thanks
    6,920
    Thanked 5,854 Times in 2,242 Posts
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikatrina Fury View Post
    I think it would help if I put it another way. I was reading another thread where apparently some people are familiar with the area. We're both in the DC area. I'm sure he got his views of it from clubs in the area, which, as some of you know sucks balls.
    Frankly, I felt safer dancing in DC than I have felt dancing in most other places. Does he actually club in DC, or does he go up to Baltimore or sm where in PG county? Two totally different animals.

  28. #21
    Senior Member Nikatrina Fury's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    130
    Thanks
    586
    Thanked 60 Times in 26 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    I'm pretty sure he goes to Baltimore too. Yes, there's a no contact rule, but in many places the pay is not as high.

  29. #22
    Featured Member Naida's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2008
    Location
    East Texas
    Posts
    1,461
    Thanks
    2,450
    Thanked 1,396 Times in 595 Posts

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikatrina Fury View Post
    I wanted to clarify things. So I'm average to above average in the beauty department but a bit flat, and he was saying that I'd need a boob job to make decent money and be in a club that's above subpar. Also, I'm not looking for a guy because I already have one. My concern is if he is supportive should I actually be worried about the sincerity of his love or if he's concerned should I be thankful that he cares enough to be concerned?
    You do NOT need big tits to work in a good club. All of the dancers I've personally met from high end clubs in my city are C cup or smaller, mostly A and B. From what I've seen, and I'm sure most girls would agree, there is and always will be a large variety in the size of tits at clubs- ranging anywhere from nipples on ribs all the way up to insane triple enlargements. You may not see those two extremes in the same club, or even at a good club, but I can assure you that there will be AT LEAST an A-DD range.
    Yes, larger breasts may help you get your foot in the door faster and make your hustle easier, but it is your HUSTLE that will make you far more money than your looks ever will. I can't tell you how many insanely hot girls I've seen crying in the dressing room because they barely made house fees, while girls "past their prime" would leave for the night if they made less than $500 in three hours.

    As for your current partner, quit over thinking it. The fact that he's cool with it right now is a POSITIVE thing thus far, assuming he isn't an anchor boyfriend who will be relying on your income while he sits on his ass. But you will have no clue what his real feelings are until you start doing it. If he treats it like any other job you could have, then he's a keeper who is comfortable in your relationship and sees you for you. If he starts getting upset about the job, then he's an insecure prick. I will always be of the opinion that a guy who does not care about dancing is better than a guy who does care, whether that "caring" is positive or negative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikatrina Fury View Post
    Also, my friend was there when I was at the lowest points in my life, so no I'm not going to call him names. He just might be thinking more from a custie POV than from a woman's POV, which is understandable because he's male.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikatrina Fury View Post
    Dude, please stop bashing on my friend. He's one of the few people I'd tell and he's all like "if this is what you want to do all the power to you." I apologize for wording it wrong.
    He doesn't even sound like he's talking from a customer point of view to me. He sounds more like one of those sleazy guys with stereotypes on his mind. Yes, a lot of customers do have these gross stereotypes in mind, but no one with "experience in the sex industry" does- and you never explained what this "experience" is. Anyone with real experience in the sex industry knows that there are plenty of sex workers with normal, if not good, marriages and home lives. He may be a good friend in other regards, but he is a shitty friend in this regard.
    Exotic dancing is like any other job.
    If you work in an office, you wear dress shoes and a suit.
    If you work in a restaraunt, you wear skid resistant shoes and a uniform.
    If you work in a strip club, you wear 7" stilettos and lycra g-strings.

  30. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Naida For This Useful Post:


  31. #23
    Veteran Member domina's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2014
    Location
    EST, USA
    Posts
    254
    Thanks
    375
    Thanked 538 Times in 165 Posts

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    I hope you eventually become an extremely successful dancer with a healthy and happy OTC life. And then you can go back and school your friend (in the nicest way).

  32. The Following User Says Thank You to domina For This Useful Post:


  33. #24
    God/dess tempest666's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Hamburg, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    10,607
    Thanks
    2,705
    Thanked 13,685 Times in 4,414 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5
    My Mood
    In Love

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    DC is more stage centric than anything. Tits won't help you at all there. (IMO because I had contemplated DC, but my selling power is the enticement of big fake tits in the face, rendered null and void in this case)
    "Fake tits are like Kevlar. They don't guarantee your chances of survival but they sure as hell improve it."
    Tempest

  34. #25
    Banned
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    11,037
    Thanks
    1,891
    Thanked 5,124 Times in 3,086 Posts

    Default Re: Am I too idealistic?

    How does your friend know unless he's worked in the industry? Customers don't know shit. Yes you could get attacked but that can happen anywhere to anyone. Years ago a neighbor raped and murdered a nun. Sure some men won't date strippers, I've mentioned that before because it is a reality. However would you want to date someone wwho didn't respect your choice?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •