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    Default Re: IQ scores are Decreasing in Western Countries

    That's a REALLY sharp reduction in the late 70s. The remainder of that chart is mostly "noise."
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    Default Re: IQ scores are Decreasing in Western Countries

    Quote Originally Posted by threlayer View Post
    That's a REALLY sharp reduction in the late 70s. The remainder of that chart is mostly "noise."
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    Maybe part of the solution is cultural, such as valuing intelligence more (both emotional and cognitive) and being less accepting of the garbage our society consumes via the media.
    This. People don't read books anymore. They watch television. That would certainly explain the apparent dramatic dropoff in the late 70s--it was about that time that television really took hold of the US population. Nowadays, if you don't watch TV, you are weird...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    OK I'll bite. To that $133 monthly food stamp benefit, add another $133 in EBT 'cash' ... plus what another $400 in rent subsidies, plus another $100 in utility bill subsidies, plus another $300 in health care subsidies. Leaving out other potential benefits, that already amounts to over $1000 per month in 'equivalent cash value'. Throw three children into the equation and the food stamp / EBT 'cash' benefits, the 'free' health care benefits, and other potential benefits ( i.e. school breakfasts and lunches ) increase substantially. However, the real question isn't about the 'absolute' amount of money ... it's about the 'relative' amount provided by the 'equivalent cash value' of social welfare benefits, versus the amount of after-tax money remaining should the single mom decide to take an unskilled / semi-skilled job while also being required to pay the full costs themself. Arguably, the 'relative' difference is rather small ... at least up to the point where the job pays $30k per year.
    $133 + $400 = $533 a month. If you're earning $8 an hour and working 40 hours a week, that's over $1,200 a month. If you're earning $8 an hour, you're probably eligible for health insurance subsidies or Medicaid. Depending on where you work, you could be getting health insurance from your employer and other benefits. You may also qualify for other government benefits such as EITC. A young person that is earning $8 an hour now, will most likely see his or her salary go up over time. Chances are, he or she will be earning a lot more in their 40's and 50's. Someone who decides to live off welfare will see a major loss of income in their 40's and 50's, after their children are grown. They will most likely end up destitute.

    It is definitely better for most people to get a job than to go on welfare and sit home all day. The only time I can think of when it may be better to go on welfare is if you're a single mom with a young child or children who need day care all day, and you're unable to get any subsidies for child-care, so all of your earnings would go to daycare. Some states do provide subsidies for child-care for poor working mothers. I'm not sure if they all do.
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