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    I'm a new cam girl who recently converted over from dancing; I've been dancing for 7ish years and I feel like the transition is pretty easy for me.

    But I'm not sure how I feel about streamate.

    From what I've been reading, some of this is totally normal, but can the rest of you just confirm that this is all normal?? Or tell me what I'm doing wrong.

    I have a slew of men popping into my room and popping back out in 2 seconds, which I know has been addressed in other threads, but I feel like I've gotten very little traffic other than that. And then I have these total DOUCHEBAGS who remind me of time wasters in the club:

    They ask to see my ass, pussy, tits, etc to which I reply something along the lines of "you can see anything you want in private." When I get the freeloader vibe from them, I try to redirect the subject toward taking me to private and they immediately leave my room. Is this normal? Am I being too aggressive?

    I also choose not to use audio, which for me is best, because using my voice just causes me a tremendous amount of anxiety. And I can't figure out the HD encoder to save my life.

    So basically, I've gotten very little traffic from SM and the guys who do come in very seldom spend money. I'm waiting to be approved for ImLive, but also thinking of trying MFC or AW. I can't figure out AW's layout though.

    So do you think this is a hustle issue? Technical issue? Maybe just poor website traffic? Please help

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    Default Re: What is going on???

    Yep, it's all normal. Freeloaders are everywhere in this industry whether you're a dancer, escort, or cammodel. The thing with camming is that these freeloaders don't have to leave their homes so there are more of them. Most of them don't want to be reminded of the reason you and they are on the site which is to pay for play. Those who do have money will pay but the ones popping in and out will never stop, it's just the nature of the beast when it comes to camming.

    I'm thinking this is a hustle issue mixed in with the nature of camming. In order to make it worth your while you have to adapt to hustling and offer whatever you can to get guys to pay. It's a sales position and honestly, you can't really sell a lot without speaking to your customers. I understand that anxiety is an issue for you but if there's a way you can use your voice I believe your earnings would go up. The encoder helps with higher earnings, you will need to download it and follow the instructions on the streamate guide on your account. Basically you just put in a new "streaming link" each time you log on and that's pretty much it after you set it up the first time.

    There are a lot of factors that goes into being a successful cammodel. One is being approachable, having correct lighting, being sell-able, and having the latest equipment. Your niche, look, voice, etc also plays a part in it. Is there a way you can get into character and use your (fake) voice so you can make more money? It could be that the guys looking to play with you are looking for someone they can hear. I know that most guys who enjoy watching porn prefer it with the volume up and not down. I know there are some girls who don't use audio but I personally would suggest it to help your earnings. Traffic SM and all sites can be all over the place but if you have the correct tools you should do well. Please use the encoder to help boost your traffic and sales. Good luck!




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    Default Re: What is going on???

    VOICE is very important, men love to hear you.

    IMHO
    Basically it is a online strip club, free chat performance is very important.

    I treat them like a club, there will be lurkers, ppl that dont tip or go private, they are the guys that showed up to club broke depending on their friends to buy a lap dance aka tip in free chat for them to watch the dance/flash for free.

    (never show pussy in free, in case u don't this, it will get u banned)
    I ask for tip when a member wants a flash and everyone else gets to see the flash just like a nightclub doing a open table dance.

    I play music, I flirt, tease, sometimes stay nude but covered, enough to grab attention then grab private.



    There is a lot of time wasters

    if your not using voice/sound then your not being aggressive enough. just my opinion

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    I can certainly understand how sound might be an issue; if it comes down to it making a big difference, I'll start using it.

    But I can't emphasize enough that traffic has been ridiculously slow. I'll sit for the better part of 2 hours and will encounter nothing but people popping in and not staying long enough for me to even say hi. This is why I feel like I should try a new site but I don't want to give up on SM just yet. The people who do take me to private seem to be staying for a fair amount of time at least, so I'll give myself that much credit but it's just frustrating to suffer through these slow times. And also when my room is filled with people who have no intention to spend money.

    I've heard there are peak times of day/night but so far it's all been pretty dead

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    Default Re: What is going on???

    The Encoder is going to be a big factor for you, even if you choose to not use audio. It can jump your placement up big time! The help section on Streamate is pretty good at explaining how to use it. If you could let us know where you are actually having problems getting it to work for you, maybe we could help.

    There are times when I can't use sound in free chat, but I do offer for the guys to use phone in exclusive. I find that to be a lot less anxiety causing than talking in free chat.

    Good luck!

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    Yes, the encoder will bump your placement thus giving you more traffic. It should be pretty easy to set up for SM- They tell you what to download and they tell you what settings to put it on. Just change the streaming option to encoder, copy and paste the links that pop-up when you hit start show and hit the green start button on encoder. I would say it is definitely worth sitting down and learning how to use. I am completely dumb with anything technology and I found it very easy to figure out.

    I also have to second the voice thing.Although it's not mandatory, I think speaking will definitely benefit you. When girls type, I notice some of them tend to have a flat facial expressions. Maybe look bored/mad/ uninteresting/whatever. When you use sound, not only are you allowing them to hear your sexy voice, but your eyes might light up when you talk or you might have dimples when you smile or whatever. I know some guys want to hear the sexual noises too- maybe the slurping or gagging sound of a deepthroat show, moaning when you masturbate, or whatever types of shows you do. When I get ask to "pound" myself, or told to go "faster or harder", I actually hit my forearm up against my thigh while I'm masturbating in a way they can't see. It makes a hard slapping noise and they think its because I'm just pounding myself so damn hard. So sound isn't just about voice. Use whatever tools you can to your advantage! Good luck!

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    Tonight has been an especially slow night, not just for you and for me but site wide. There's been a lot of guys looking for freebies of all sorts tonight and very few paying. The guys who are logging in and out IMHO are window shopping for free tits and ass. They have it out, you don't, they leave. The thing that you'll learn very quickly about SM is there are guys who are literally on the site 24/7 just bouncing from chat room to chat room but never spend a damn thing. You can do one of several things, try and convert them (good luck with that), ban them or keep them there to give the appearance of a bouncing chat room.

    As for hustle, everyone has their own form of hustle and what works for someone else may not work for you. Personally, my hustle is to sit fully clothed, say very little and smile. Some models literally break their backs to try and reel em in. Somewhere between here and there is you.

    Good luck and welcome to the mad house!!

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    Ok, I followed SM's instructions for the encoder, step by step, and it's not working...the green "start" button isn't illuminated. Anyone else ever run into this?

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    That's exactly what I did :/ I'm not sure what's happening

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    Is this the green button your trying to start? your encoder should look like this if on a windows computer
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    Default Re: What is going on???

    I just gave u all the input you need
    when you enter manually you can click save file and it should load for you every time you log on
    oops.. DO NOT SAVE THE FMS URL OR THE STREAM ON THE RIGHT.. a new new is given for each log in
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    Yes, that's the green button. This is exactly what I did:

    Downloaded the stream quality file from SM,

    opened the encoder,

    clicked "open profile,"

    selected the file downloaded from SM,

    clicked "open,"

    selected "save profile," and selected the file once more,

    clicked "ok" when prompted to duplicate the file,

    double checked to make sure it was set to custom,

    copied and pasted the two links and then hit "connect."

    Still no green button; I'm so confused

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    And you're not getting and error or anything?

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    Nope no error

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    Default Re: What is going on???

    I'm trying also, and I don't get a lit up green button either lol wtf

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    Mine has a green button even if I don't have it set up...

    Can you screen print to show us what you're seeing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrah_tinytot View Post
    I can certainly understand how sound might be an issue; if it comes down to it making a big difference, I'll start using it.

    But I can't emphasize enough that traffic has been ridiculously slow. I'll sit for the better part of 2 hours and will encounter nothing but people popping in and not staying long enough for me to even say hi. This is why I feel like I should try a new site but I don't want to give up on SM just yet. The people who do take me to private seem to be staying for a fair amount of time at least, so I'll give myself that much credit but it's just frustrating to suffer through these slow times. And also when my room is filled with people who have no intention to spend money.

    I've heard there are peak times of day/night but so far it's all been pretty dead
    Well... if you think traffic is dead on SM you won't likely be pleased with any other site except maybe MFC but you're almost guaranteed to have to use voice AND do shows IN FREE CHAT, for everyone to see even non payers, to make a decent living. SM has the highest paying traffic of all the other cam sites... I think most of us can agree on this because it's just how it is.

    I'm not sure how long you've been camming but slow times are just part of the business. Everyone has the same issue with guys coming in and out and not staying... I've been doing this so long I don't even notice anymore.

    Do you know what your placement is like?

    What issue are you having with the encoder? I never really understand this because the encoder is pretty cut and dry if you follow the set up instructions.
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    My screen looks identical to what tempting posted of hers, settings etc. The only difference is my green start button is dim. Not clickable. I tried using a different browser too, so far firefox and chrome and still isn't lighting up that start button. I emailed support.

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    Default Re: What is going on???

    Im trying hard to get a better image up

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    Default Re: What is going on???

    click next to FORMAT H.264 (the tool key, then a pop up occurs)
    make sure it is saved to
    PROFILE
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    click ok


    That is the only thing I left out in the above image

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    I always use chrome .... always

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    I did check that, and the settings were correct and still no lit up start button at the moment, I do not understand. I have repeated and repeated the steps, triple checked everything. Hopefully support can tell me wtf I am doing wrong or not doing. I can SEE the stupid button, it just won't light up so that I can click it to START. And I've clicked the fuck out of it even dimmed lol.

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    do you have "stream to flash media saver" checked on the right above fms url?
    i just unchecked it and and my green button is grayed

    checked it and BAM I have my green button

    really trying to help here lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    Well... if you think traffic is dead on SM you won't likely be pleased with any other site except maybe MFC but you're almost guaranteed to have to use voice AND do shows IN FREE CHAT, for everyone to see even non payers, to make a decent living. SM has the highest paying traffic of all the other cam sites... I think most of us can agree on this because it's just how it is.

    I'm not sure how long you've been camming but slow times are just part of the business. Everyone has the same issue with guys coming in and out and not staying... I've been doing this so long I don't even notice anymore.

    Do you know what your placement is like?

    What issue are you having with the encoder? I never really understand this because the encoder is pretty cut and dry if you follow the set up instructions.
    I don't think I can describe the encoder issues better than above, and apparently it's not just me since other people are having the same issue, so for now I'm going to assume something funky is just going on and possibly a glitch. Everything is there, including the start button, but it's dim and I can't click on it.

    I've filled out my application for MFC; as far as SM goes, I'm not sure what's happening because I'll go hours at a time without anyone in my room at all. Then there are peak times when I get a few nibbles but no one serious about going into private. I realize there are slow times, just like there are hours of fluctuation in dancing, but I just wanted to clarify that what I'm experiencing is normal---because you can't get any slower than 0 customers present.

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    Yep that is checked also. I hate to admit this, but I think my computer isn't good enough to run the encoder. Fuck. I'm gonna work on this end of it, then see what support says if and when they get back with me.

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