Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 33

Thread: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

  1. #1
    Member scandy01's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2013
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts

    Default Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    I need advice bad & would love advice from ladies familiar w/ dancing in Vegas. Any comments are welcome & totally appreciated, I just feel that clubs here can be different from other cities...

    Background: Started contemplating dancing 1.5 yrs ago while married, never went through w/ it as husband didn't like it...fast forward 6 mo., divorce, moved to Vegas, decided to dance...worked a few days at Crazy Horse 2, was dead (they just closed today FYI) so never went back until a couple days ago when I was hired at Cheetahs. I've been wanting to do this for a long time & have put a ton of time, money & research into making it happen. I sure thought I knew what I was getting into...

    Some things just can't be researched though. I guess what I'm wondering now is if how I'm feeling can be overcome or does this mean I'm just not cut out to be a dancer.
    I would love advice from anyone who can relate to what I'm saying...especially those w/ experience in Las Vegas clubs. I guess I'm just looking for encouragement...hoping to hear of others who have overcome these types of issues...I've done a search, but was looking for more info specific to Vegas & this situation. This is one place I know I can go to for relevant advice I can trust. And in a city like Vegas you can trust nobody.

    So problem is I worked my 2nd night last night & left for the 2nd time down my house fees....as in made nothing except $20 last night in a 2 for 1 deal. I have ZERO hustle. None whatsoever. I'm concerned because I am a former real estate broker & quit real estate because I'm not a naturally good sales person. In fact, not only do I have no hustle...I have negative hustle...as in I'm doing so many things wrong...I'm not sure what to focus on or where to start making changes but it all needs to change.

    My #1 problem is selling....I'm not too bad at approaching customers, but I can't figure out how to ask for dances. I get sucked into these long conversations...entertaining the typical Vegas BS entirely too long. Seriously I think 100% of the customers I've interacted w/ have A. tried to get me out of the club B. asked how much for X,Y, Z sexual favors C. tried to pimp me out or D. talked about their oh-so-fabulous celebrity studded lifestyle & how successful they are or E. all the shit they can do for me, yet can't even manage to buy me a drink, let alone a dance

    I am attracted like a magnet to the worst types of customers....the types who think they're too good to buy dances....or fronting like they have $ but are too cheap....& if not w/ these guys I find myself chatting it up in the friend zone. I can't blame them...it's all my fault...I have to realize early on that it's not rude for me to get up and walk away.

    I'm way too friendly w/ customers....to the point of me forgetting I'm working & why I'm there. Since I'm new to the city I confuse the fact I'm not out kickin it & socializing, but need to be focused. Because of this I've decided to limit or forgo alcohol consumption at work..I think it will help but still...

    I just can't seem to ask for dances...I can force myself to approach customers, but I get this thought stuck in my head that if they wanted a dance, they would ask....SO WRONG & so ridiculous I know. It's like I just assume they are all going to say no. I will never be a successful dancer w/ this mentality so I need help breaking it. Management, house moms, staff are all amazing. They think I'm going to do great...say the customers will love me...so I can't figure out what is wrong w/ me? It's all mental & I know there is a bit of a confidence problem...I'm not centerfold skinny so was nervous about getting hired...they really loved me & quickly stuck me on night shift so I got over myself. Especially when I saw the other girls, I was surprised that I was actually one of the smaller girls working.

    What really got to me is watching these girls on stage & working their hustle...they looked beautiful & they were amazing. The confidence was just glaring off them & honest made me wonder WTF is my problem & if they can own their sexiness & be so confident...why can't I? I'm learning to love my body, looks wise I know I'm pretty, I have a good personality & I have no problem doing lap dances...have done an hour of VIP (literally handed to me on a silver platter though)...but am also nervous about stage..I've only done it once when the club was dead & usually pay to avoid it. I realize that is getting me nowhere but broke & now I'm to the point if I want to work at all I can't afford to skip stage anymore.

    I'm sure I can overcome my stage fright in time....but can a person who is the polar opposite of a salesman & who has the mentality that they are most likely going to say no... can I turn this around while working in the club? If so...how? Or is this personal work I'm going to have to do on myself outside of the club first? Or am I just in the wrong city? Back in Portland I cocktailed in strip clubs & frequented as a customer & wasn't like this as much...at least not so many people preying on others trying to get something...in my experience anyway. One of the hosts told me to come back tonight & he would hook me up w/ other hosts & could definitely get me business as long as I take care of them. I will def work w/ them, but I know I can't be relying on hosts to get me all of my business...I want to be able to be confident in my own ability to sell....do I sound hopeless? I don't want to give up....been wanting to do this for so long...but this is getting really expensive kwim

    Please help me!

  2. #2
    Moderator Optimist's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2004
    Location
    House of Aion
    Posts
    8,074
    Thanks
    7,881
    Thanked 5,705 Times in 2,127 Posts
    My Mood
    In Love

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    This is where you left off. Soooo....you're not going with the guy? How about you be so kind as to update us on the last thread asking for members to help before asking us to invest in this one? Pretty please??
    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...in-Vegas/page1
    “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.” - ECKHART TOLLE

  3. The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Optimist For This Useful Post:


  4. #3
    Senior Member PrincessWhooty's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    138
    Thanks
    1,568
    Thanked 208 Times in 71 Posts
    My Mood
    Buzzed

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Congratulations and welcome to the game! This is only the first rung of mannnny to come..you have now broken into the "behind the scenes", the initial phase where you MUST learn gratitude, respect, humility and personal boundaries before you can develop your stripper shark skills.

    I remember hitting this phase maybe 3 months in after the "new girl money" vanished...and boy..did I drink during this phase!! Whew..I also almost got pimped quite a few times, had all kinda guys try me on all kinda things in VIP and on the floor but now I am so far away from that phase that it's really hard to believe that was even me.

    There is really so much to be said about this phase, but it's a learning curve and you will choose your own path.

    As far as sales, yes, this is something ALL strippers struggle with but a few hours of hot tea and Hustle Hut can work miracles!! I am "naturally" a terrible salesperson with anxiety, etc but I need $$$ and if you do too, you are going to have to suck it up and research, study, observe and come up with your OWN money making strategies and go throught lots of trial and error moments.

    I hear Vegas is harsh even for the most seasoned sharks, but your mentality seems to be your own worst enemy at the moment, or the one that you can readily change and be responsible for. The club or your own mindset seems to be eating you alive and if you change clubs, the logistics of a club are universal. Once you learn how to be in control of your own thoughts and set your dreams into action, YOU become universal!

    TBH after I recovered from this phase of stripping and my thick skin began to grow, my entire view on life changed. No more attending parties where I was very outnumbered by guys, no more expensive cab rides from some jerk's house at 3 a.m., no more mooching off my aunt, no more clubbing with guys just bc they were paying the tab, no more sex with strangers or date rape, no more super trashed driving, no more deadbeat boyfriends or regular friends. This is when, for maybe the first time in my life, I truly learned how to love myself and I became a real woman.

    And you know, maybe stripping isn't for you, so what. If the idea of having a boss or manager and a set agenda are appealing to you, the chaos that is a SC could be overwhelming to you. But hell, why not put your gameface on and see what happens? It's up to you to choose your own destiny.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  5. The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to PrincessWhooty For This Useful Post:


  6. #4
    Senior Member PrincessWhooty's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    138
    Thanks
    1,568
    Thanked 208 Times in 71 Posts
    My Mood
    Buzzed

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Congratulations and welcome to the game! This is only the first rung of mannnny to come..you have now broken into the "behind the scenes", the initial phase where you MUST learn gratitude, respect, humility and personal boundaries before you can develop your stripper shark skills.

    I remember hitting this phase maybe 3 months in after the "new girl money" vanished...and boy..did I drink during this phase!! Whew..I also almost got pimped quite a few times, had all kinda guys try me on all kinda things in VIP and on the floor but now I am so far away from that phase that it's really hard to believe that was even me.

    There is really so much to be said about this phase, but it's a learning curve and you will choose your own path.

    As far as sales, yes, this is something ALL strippers struggle with but a few hours of hot tea and Hustle Hut can work miracles!! I am "naturally" a terrible salesperson with anxiety, etc but I need $$$ and if you do too, you are going to have to suck it up and research, study, observe and come up with your OWN money making strategies and go throught lots of trial and error moments.

    I hear Vegas is harsh even for the most seasoned sharks, but your mentality seems to be your own worst enemy at the moment, or the one that you can readily change and be responsible for. The club or your own mindset seems to be eating you alive and if you change clubs, the logistics of a club are universal. Once you learn how to be in control of your own thoughts and set your dreams into action, YOU become universal!

    TBH after I recovered from this phase of stripping and my thick skin began to grow, my entire view on life changed. No more attending parties where I was very outnumbered by guys, no more expensive cab rides from some jerk's house at 3 a.m., no more mooching off my aunt, no more clubbing with guys just bc they were paying the tab, no more sex with strangers or date rape, no more super trashed driving, no more deadbeat boyfriends or regular friends. This is when, for maybe the first time in my life, I truly learned how to love myself and I became a real woman.

    And you know, maybe stripping isn't for you, so what. If the idea of having a boss or manager and a set agenda are appealing to you, the chaos that is a SC could be overwhelming to you. But hell, why not put your gameface on and see what happens? It's up to you to choose your own destiny.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to PrincessWhooty For This Useful Post:


  8. #5
    Veteran Member Amira702's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Shhhhh!
    Posts
    312
    Thanks
    196
    Thanked 304 Times in 151 Posts
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Well, it sounds like you know where you're going wrong. From working at Cheetah's, I know exactly the type of time wasters you're talking about. A lot of them come through that place but it's fairly easy to figure out which ones are time wasters, from a one song conversation. What I would do is, introduce myself to someone, hear a little of their story, then move right in for the sale. I started dancing in the Midwest and I would never in a million years do this back at home but in Vegas, it seems to work. Three things can happen, a guy can flat out say no, in which I tell him he doesn't know what he's missing out on but I will come back to him to see if he changed his mind. A guy can say maybe later, so I let him know I will come back and check with him to see if he's ready in a few minutes, or he'll say yes, and at that time I'd give a dance and try to upsell a dance in the G-spot at that point. Time wasters give answers like this "I don't get dances", "I only get dances in private but not in the VIP where there are bouncers to watch", "Instead of buying a dance I'd rather take you to dinner/shopping", etc. If a guy gives me any of those answers, I don't waste any time with them. Dancing is a job where you socialize with a lot of people but a huge mistake to make is to treat it like a social gathering, you're not there to be everyone's friend or anyone's friend, you're there to make money. Every time you feel yourself being sidetracked from that, try to focus and regroup. Best wishes, PM me if you need anything, Cheetah's is my LV home club.

  9. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Amira702 For This Useful Post:


  10. #6
    God/dess Selina M's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Omicron Persei 8
    Posts
    4,508
    Thanks
    12,529
    Thanked 13,934 Times in 3,720 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Question: "Can a naturally introverted, non-salesman, negative person become a decent stripper?"
    Answer: *raises hand* Yes, me me me!
    I was the same way as you. You will have to get over all this. Some of this is just time though, and developing the confidence/instincts.

    First, start with a 3-song rule. Do not sit with someone for longer. This results in a) lost time if they don't buy, and b) sometimes you get "friend zoned" and they won't buy from you.

    Asking for a dance: My go-to line if they've sucked me into a longer conversation (like, a full 3 songs, which is my limit) is "Well I think we've gotten acquainted enough that I can take my clothes off for you now!" Works like a charm IF they were open to buying dances at all. Otherwise, look up the threads of cute one-liners in Hustle Hut. You'll learn the confidence to say them in a lull in the conversation, even without a segue. The worst they can say is no... but at least you asked.
    If they say yes: If you're not feeling confident enough yet to suggest (not ask) that you go to the next higher priced area to dance, offer them a choice: "Would you like to stay here or go in the private area?" It at least plants the idea, and sometimes they will get a couple floor dances and then move to the other area. Again... the worst they can say is no, but at least you presented the option.

    ABC: always be closing. Example: If you're halfway through your 3-song limit chat, and it's way off topic, and there's a lull where you can say something, make it dancing related. "Do you always come here? Do you go to any other clubs?" Even ask them to tell you, or tell them, a funny story about your last shift. You want them thinking about strip clubs and dances. If they start asking you about if you go to school, if you have kids, answer vaguely and steer it away. You don't want to talk about yourself; men like mystery and talking about themselves. The only exception to this is old men (my target audience); they sometimes love knowing all that shit and feeling they're helping you out.

    Confidence: everyone has bad days where they don't want to be there and they get negative. What I find works is to always be assuming in your head that he'll buy; i.e., thinking "So after this I'll have $120" when really you have $100, because you're assuming he will buy a dance. Another thing I do is just stop giving a fuck; not worrying before I approach a customer. Often I'll be thinking about something else entirely and so it projects a carefree, confident, "take it or leave it" attitude that most men seem to like. The most common response i get when I ask if I can sit with them while in this mindset is a mirrored one: "Oh, what the hell".... which I can then turn into a sale.

    Start going on stage. You will get over the stage fright, I promise.
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

    "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

  11. The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Selina M For This Useful Post:


  12. #7
    Senior Member PrincessWhooty's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    138
    Thanks
    1,568
    Thanked 208 Times in 71 Posts
    My Mood
    Buzzed

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    ^^ Yep yep! Sometimes I think introverts are actually IDEAL salespeople because we have an ability to connect very closely on a one-on-one basis (think VIPS and loooong strings of dances from those guys who fall under your spell)!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  13. The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to PrincessWhooty For This Useful Post:


  14. #8
    God/dess lynn2009's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    3,147
    Thanks
    8,922
    Thanked 7,163 Times in 2,493 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    ^^Excellent advice up here.

    I wanted to add to keep it sexy. I read this in one thread in HH. Honest to god, if you every find yourself in a lull, ask the guy what kind of porn he likes. (hint: OMG YOU LOVE THAT SHIT TOO). I had my first 1k night this way
    "There are different kinds of darkness. There is darkness that frightens, the darkness that soothes, the darkness that is restful. There is the darkness of lovers, and the darkness of assassins. It becomes what the bearer wishes it to be, needs it to be. It is not wholly bad or good."
    - The Court of Mist and Fury

  15. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to lynn2009 For This Useful Post:


  16. #9
    Member scandy01's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2013
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Optimist...thanks for responding. Ok. I knew that was coming :-) I haven't updated that thread because the situation pisses me off to no end & I've been waiting to calm down so I don't end up going off on a rant in a post. thank you for your interest in even caring, I appreciate it...I went ahead and updated it, although I don't have time tonight (I gotta go work) I WILL DEF be responding to each and every person individually who posted advice for me over there. The support is amazing here & I definitely don't want anyone thinking I don't appreciate it because it's everything to me right now...I know enough to know that I need to take other peoples advice & not trust in myself...just give me a bit, I only posted an update but will be responding soon

    Thanks!

  17. #10
    God/dess Selina M's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Omicron Persei 8
    Posts
    4,508
    Thanks
    12,529
    Thanked 13,934 Times in 3,720 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Also, I just wanted to add that you are totally not wrong or alone, in the idea that there was no way you could prepare for it. This is not the glamorous job you see in the movies where you get up on stage and people throw money at you.

    You need to grow a thick skin. You will be propositioned for extras in the club, asked to meet up outside the club, told you're too fat/skinny/short-haired/too many tattoos/whatever else they don't like about you, called a whore/skank/slut by both customers and people in your personal life who find out. You may have managers try to scam you ("you did 5 songs in VIP, not 3, give me the cut for 5"), staff make your life difficult because they don't think you tip them enough (when many have never done a damn thing to deserve your tip money anyway), other girls talk shit or even steal from you.

    Honestly, this can be a very difficult way to make a living and still retain your sanity. I don't generally encourage people to get into the business; it is not what it used to be (where's Melonie to vouch for this?) I am a young dancer still, but in the 5 years since I started I have seen it get progressively dirtier and the money decrease slowly. There is absolutely no shame in working a few shifts and then deciding that it's not for you; better that than damaging your psyche. Best of luck to you though!
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

    "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

  18. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Selina M For This Useful Post:


  19. #11
    Banned Aniela's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2009
    Location
    KW
    Posts
    3,291
    Thanks
    6,920
    Thanked 5,854 Times in 2,242 Posts
    My Mood
    Cynical

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    Also, I just wanted to add that you are totally not wrong or alone, in the idea that there was no way you could prepare for it. This is not the glamorous job you see in the movies where you get up on stage and people throw money at you.

    You need to grow a thick skin. You will be propositioned for extras in the club, asked to meet up outside the club, told you're too fat/skinny/short-haired/too many tattoos/whatever else they don't like about you, called a whore/skank/slut by both customers and people in your personal life who find out. You may have managers try to scam you ("you did 5 songs in VIP, not 3, give me the cut for 5"), staff make your life difficult because they don't think you tip them enough (when many have never done a damn thing to deserve your tip money anyway), other girls talk shit or even steal from you.

    Honestly, this can be a very difficult way to make a living and still retain your sanity. I don't generally encourage people to get into the business; it is not what it used to be (where's Melonie to vouch for this?) I am a young dancer still, but in the 5 years since I started I have seen it get progressively dirtier and the money decrease slowly. There is absolutely no shame in working a few shifts and then deciding that it's not for you; better that than damaging your psyche. Best of luck to you though!
    This is a post that I would def include in a 'Best of StripperWeb' thread, bc It Is GOLD.

    I have been dancing 5yrs as well (on&off) & would say the same thing. Less $$$ going around bc of clubs flooded w/ girls, greedier customers, more scammers (aka bad mgmt/bouncers/other staff looking for handouts), more desperation among the girls & so many outdo themselves & each other in the race to the bottom. There really is no way to prepare for sm of the shit you see in this job, regardless of what city you're working in -- could you imagine an Adult Work chapter in the career-prep textbook from high school?! If dancing isn't for you, it's not for you, & there is nothing 'right' or 'wrong' abt whichever way you go when making that decision.

  20. #12
    Member scandy01's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2013
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Princess thank you for your response! Everything you say is hitting me so hard...that's why I came here...girls just know these things...there are so many things about my life that are coming to a head right now. Losing my life back home, divorce, moving to a new state, new job, my parents are even divorcing after 35 yrs...now is the time I have no choice but to find myself, rely on myself, and become a woman. Relying on other people for happiness, security, validation, ect. is why I'm in the situation I am today.

    That's what I really need & hope this job can teach me...how to really love myself and how to make MYSELF happy.

    I don't really know who I am as a person...can I find myself working in the club? I think it will make or break me....depending on my choices. I am making the choice to love myself first & depend on myself, it's just scary working a job that isn't supporting me atm.

    I want to be confident in my abilities...I guess I can't expect to be a perfect veteran right away. I'm willing to put in the time to practice & learn as long as I can afford it. One thing is I don't give up easy so I'm going to keep trying...I have to go back tonight & I'm taking a different attitude w/ me. And you are right, maybe it isn't for me? But how would I ever know if I don't try & if it isn't that means there are lessons for me to learn so may as well have fun along the way.

    Because I do enjoy most everything about dancing & every job has it's downsides....I also think dancing is helping me love myself & develop that self confidence that is key...not only in the club but in life...and you can just see it...some dancers have it & some don't. But the ones who do are beautiful...you can't miss it. At a size 6 or a size 14. I want that for myself.

  21. #13
    Member scandy01's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2013
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Thanks so much Amira!! I LOVE that "ok, well you don't know what you're missing out on, but I'll check back" line...I'm using that for sure, so thanks!

    You are so right w/ the lines time wasters give...every line under the sun to get you outside of the club. And now that I think about it...the other dancers already knew this because these guys weren't getting approached by a ton of girls, they were regulars so that could've been my 1st clue.

    My new approach is to treat work like work. I'm not there to kick it, I'm not conversing w/ customers anymore when I'm bored...if I'm bored, it means I'm not working hard enough. I am going to make an effort to talk to as many people as I can tonight & just in general keep it moving

  22. #14
    Member scandy01's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2013
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Just want to say I will be responding to the rest of this thread asap, just gotta go to work now...thanks for the tips! I have SO many new things to try and things to think about...hopefully I'll have a good (or at least interesting) update

  23. #15
    God/dess Selina M's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Omicron Persei 8
    Posts
    4,508
    Thanks
    12,529
    Thanked 13,934 Times in 3,720 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    This is a post that I would def include in a 'Best of StripperWeb' thread, bc It Is GOLD.
    Aw, thanks!
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

    "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

  24. #16
    Senior Member Kcreole1's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2013
    Location
    New Orleans
    Posts
    75
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts
    My Mood
    Worried

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    You should try spearmint rhino you'll make more money
    " I would rather be tired than BROKE"

  25. #17
    God/dess Selina M's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Omicron Persei 8
    Posts
    4,508
    Thanks
    12,529
    Thanked 13,934 Times in 3,720 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    ^ She has no hustle or confidence yet... I would definitely not suggest she work at a mega club like Rhino or Sapphire... That's a good way to traumatize someone new, IMO. "Here, get on the floor with 200 other girls and triple digit house fees!"
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

    "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."

  26. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Selina M For This Useful Post:


  27. #18
    Senior Member Kcreole1's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2013
    Location
    New Orleans
    Posts
    75
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts
    My Mood
    Worried

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Yeah that's a good point .... Well eventually make ur way there once ur confident enough
    " I would rather be tired than BROKE"

  28. The Following User Says Thank You to Kcreole1 For This Useful Post:


  29. #19
    Banned
    Joined
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Lakewood, Colorado
    Posts
    1,145
    Thanks
    120
    Thanked 344 Times in 233 Posts
    My Mood
    Twisted

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    I would recommend a smaller club more for locals than say the big mega clubs which are tourist traps!

  30. #20
    God/dess audrey_k's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    3,542
    Thanks
    1,043
    Thanked 3,893 Times in 1,568 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by scandy01 View Post
    I am attracted like a magnet to the worst types of customers....the types who think they're too good to buy dances....or fronting like they have $ but are too cheap....& if not w/ these guys I find myself chatting it up in the friend zone. I can't blame them...it's all my fault...I have to realize early on that it's not rude for me to get up and walk away.
    Part of this is just being new. Timewasters don't bother with veteran strippers because they know they won't fall for their BS-- and time waster spend a lot of time in clubs and they can pick up on us almost as well as we can pick up on them. When I first started dancing all the timewasters were drawn to me and BOY did I get them bad as a new escort. Once you get more into the game not only will you be able to spot them quickly, but they won't be anywhere near as drawn to you.

    I think the best thing you can do is to watch the other girls at your club and try and see what customers they're going for-- spotting a good customer is something that takes years, I mean even after 5 years of doing this, I worked with an SW member who's been doing it for ten and I was amazed at how much better she was than men at just pointing to someone and knowing they would spend money or knowing exactly how long to wait to approach someone.

    And you have to get over the feeling rude thing, if you were working in a make up store and it became blatantly clear someone was just going to use up all your free samples and not spend a dime, would you continue helping them or move on?

  31. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to audrey_k For This Useful Post:


  32. #21
    Member scandy01's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2013
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Selina thank you thank you thank you.... just what I needed to hear. I really believe what you are saying about just assuming they are going to say yes... that is so much more powerful than assuming they will say no. I have been reading Hustle Hut & am mesmerized by the thread on the law of attraction...watched the secret, listening to Louise Hays...it's already helping me feel better....I never went into work the other night, I drove there but just couldn't go in & spend my last $...looked pretty dead...so instead I have been 24/7 trying to pack my mind w/ positivity & learn as much as I can about how to love myself = #1 problem

    And you are also right...I told myself I'm not skipping stage anymore, I just can't. I'll never get used to it if I don't do it & my hustle doesn't justify the $$

  33. The Following User Says Thank You to scandy01 For This Useful Post:


  34. #22
    Member scandy01's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2013
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    "I wanted to add to keep it sexy. I read this in one thread in HH. Honest to god, if you every find yourself in a lull, ask the guy what kind of porn he likes. (hint: OMG YOU LOVE THAT SHIT TOO). I had my first 1k night this way"

    aaahahaha! this is gonna now be my "go-to" question when I feel myself slipping into the friend zone lol

  35. #23
    Member scandy01's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2013
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    And you have to get over the feeling rude thing, if you were working in a make up store and it became blatantly clear someone was just going to use up all your free samples and not spend a dime, would you continue helping them or move on?[/QUOTE]

    True this. I am now instead telling myself that it would be rude for them to expect me to sit there for free while I'm working...which I'm sure they aren't they are just taking what they can get for free...It's up to me how I frame it in my head.

  36. #24
    God/dess lynn2009's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    3,147
    Thanks
    8,922
    Thanked 7,163 Times in 2,493 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Hon, how has work been?
    "There are different kinds of darkness. There is darkness that frightens, the darkness that soothes, the darkness that is restful. There is the darkness of lovers, and the darkness of assassins. It becomes what the bearer wishes it to be, needs it to be. It is not wholly bad or good."
    - The Court of Mist and Fury

  37. #25
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    May 2011
    Posts
    208
    Thanks
    81
    Thanked 175 Times in 86 Posts

    Default Re: Doing Just About Everything Wrong in Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    ^ She has no hustle or confidence yet... I would definitely not suggest she work at a mega club like Rhino or Sapphire... That's a good way to traumatize someone new, IMO. "Here, get on the floor with 200 other girls and triple digit house fees!"
    Yeah I would agree that she shouldn't go over to Rhino yet, but Sapphire isn't that intimidating. It's big, yes, but the floor is so spread out that it never looks or feels overwhelmingly crowded (both customer and dancer wise). And the girls really aren't sharks like they are at Rhino.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Olympic Garden In Vegas (Vegas Clubs In General)
    By CamQueen in forum Club Chat
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-15-2012, 01:27 PM
  2. I think I have the wrong person the wrong impression.
    By mediocrity in forum Life Support
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 03-09-2010, 10:15 PM
  3. House Mom Done Wrong... Waaay Wrong
    By Aleah in forum Stripping (was Stripping General)
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 01-23-2006, 11:04 PM
  4. House Mom Done Wrong... Waaay Wrong
    By Aleah in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 01-18-2006, 04:18 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •