"Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. I'm serious, that's what it says: 'A horrible person.' We weren't even testing for that."





How about learn to respect ppl sober, without the need of anything.... gees.





I guess it could be plausible once both partners are stoned past the point of caring -- but seriously, I call bullshit.
I think the author is also excluding (deliberately?) cases where one person is adamantly against drug use, & the other is adamantly against giving it up. From my own experience I say any1 who believes pot is not addictive is full of shit, & a relationship where one partner is addicted to it (as mine was several yrs ago) will have the same problems as a relationship where addiction to other substances is present.
It's not just an article, its an actual study.
"Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. I'm serious, that's what it says: 'A horrible person.' We weren't even testing for that."




It makes sense. Pot causes feelings of euphoria and relaxation (the reason why it's so great for issues like anxiety and PMS). It's hard to get worked up into a rage when you can smoke a joint and just bliss out for a couple of hours.
I'd like to see the study on couples who drink alcohol regularly. I think I can guess what that one looks like.





Admittedly I only made it thru maybe the first third b4 I threw up in my mouth a bit & clicked out of it. I still stand by my original view since study results can be skewed, deliberately or accidentally, & bc I have personally experienced the exact opposite of this 'study''s claim.
ETA: from the opening sentence of the link posted by Trem: Research on the association between marijuana use and intimate partner violence (IPV) has generated inconsistent findings
Since the subj of drug use & resulting behaviours is so polarised, I would remain suspicious of any studies claiming one side or the other as the definitive result.
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Harlem Lewis was convicted of capitol murder of a police officer and sentenced to death. Part o his defense was that he had used Marihuana.
A high school friend, Bernard Lewis (no relation), testified that Lewis wielded a gun during robberies at a bus stop at the intersection of W. Bellfort and S. Gessner in 2011. He also said Harlem Lewis and others burglarized a truck at the University of Houston Downtown campus in September 2011.
The jury also heard recordings of phone calls made by Lewis from the Harris County Jail while he was awaiting trial. In several recordings, his girlfriend and mother of his child repeatedly accused him of beating and choking her, on one occasion giving her a black eye.
http://www.click2houston.com/news/co...ncing/27069780
http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/be...er-5630621.php
Why would "domestic" make violence different.
I know plenty of people who will tell you how pot saved their marriage, but lets be honest... it all comes down to the couple smoking it. It will not work for all couples, but if they use it as a bonding experience (ie they save smoking for when they are together) then you can see it bond a relationship like ANYTHING a couple shares with only their spouse. I know smoking a doobie has saved my boo and I from many fights.





The psychological addiction of any mind altering substance is worse than the physical addiction, except alcohol withdrawal which can be fatal.





What about a Sex Addiction??
MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt




Most substances cause severe withdrawal symptoms. I'm a daily coffee drinker, but giving it up cold turkey is worse than the flu for me. I've tried a few times to quit, but after 6 days of crushing fatigue and sever headaches, nausea, vomiting etc. I gave up and just fixed myself a cup of joe. I've been drinking coffee since I was 6 years old, so I am probably an extreme case.
Also, a huge number of Rx drugs have to be managed when the patient wants to stop taking the meds. Oxycontin is probably the most well known to be deadly when the patient stops taking it. It took my friend 6 weeks of in-patient treatment to get off oxy. Zolof and other anti depressants can also cause serious damage if a person just quits cold turkey.
Psychological addictions are easily broken by removing the patient from his/her normal routines. It's just when the patient returns to those routines that the cravings return as their body wants to fall back into the same old habits.





ANYTHING can be an addiction, anything. anything that is getting in the way of your life and affecting your decisions/job/relationships/goals, etc is a problem. i have to disagree bout psychological being worse than physical though, especially with opiates or benzos/alcohol. sex addiction is absolutely real too, although i don't see anybody physically withdrawing from it.
i've seen pot get in the way of plenty of relationships i think it depends on the couple
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Alcohol withdrawal can be fatal, but heroin withdrawal feels like having a combination of influenza and the stomach flu x10 for a week straight. I have never and will never touch it but my sister is addicted to it (as is her boyfriend who got her hooked on it), they both shoot up several times a day, and when he ran out and started withdrawing he was sicker than I've ever seen anyone. He would put on a shirt and sweat through it soaking it completely within a minute. And I won't get started on the constant vomiting, diarrhea, shakes, cramps, etc. It sounds terrifying, especially since I've heard this boyfriend of my sister's actually utter the words, "I'd rather die than withdraw." Heroin withdrawal may not be fatal, but users sure "feel" like they're going to die.
Also, benzos. Xanax withdrawal is fatal and from what I've researched, it's one of THE worst withdrawals.
Now let's take a look at weed. Virtually no physical withdrawal symptoms. I smoke weed every day, usually multiple times a day. I have also quit (involuntarily and voluntarily) on many occasions for several months and I was fine. Studies have shown that caffeine is more addictive than marijuana.
Marijuana is really a miracle drug. It can help with medical issues that would otherwise need actual ADDICTIVE prescription drugs. It can help with pain, which would allow someone not to have the risk of an opiate addiction; it can help with anxiety which saves someone the risk of getting addicted to a benzo. It can life-saving for cancer and aids patients who are suffering from "wasting syndrome." And how many OD's has weed caused? None.
In MY experience, smoking weed makes me much less inclined to turn to violence than, say, alcohol. Weed makes me want to do the opposite of violence. I didn't even read the article though. This is just my .02 on the weed issue.
I'm glad it's medically legalized here in MI and decriminalized in a lot of cities near me.
"Rather have my feet hurting than my pockets."





My best friend knew someone who died by taking a hit from pot. It wasn't laced either. It burned his brain really bad. He was young. 21.
I don't like the temporary side affects. I've gotten depressed a few days right after smoking it. One time I heard strange voices, that's when I said never again. Haven't touched it since. That scared me.
His autopsy must have not listed marijuana as the cause of death, otherwise he would be the poster child for all of those anti-marijuana activist. I'm sure whatever he was on wasn't just "pot".
Any drug can trigger schizophrenia, which is usually attributed to "hearing voices", it does not mean you would have not been schizophrenic if you had not done the drug, it just means the mental illness was already inside you dormant. If you have ever heard voices then that is reason to go see a mental professional, no matter what drug "made you hear voices", so I hope you do go see a medical professional, because at any point you can be normal and just snap with mental illness, and just because being intoxicated on a drug made you have them, doesn't mean they should be ignored. ALWAYS go see a doctor if you have any signs of mental illness, no matter who you are or what triggered it. Mental illness is nothing to be shamed of, you might not be schizophrenic, so don't freak out, but your mental health is worth looking into.
(My brother-in-law and roommate and are schizophrenic, its very common, they both heard their first voices on drugs)





Wow, way to imply that the reason a person doesn't like pot is that they are crazy -- not bc the Blessed Buds themselves might actually disagree w/ them.
Further, it sounds like you're saying in your 2nd paragraph that pot (which itself is, like, obviously, totally harmless!) can trigger (read: cause) schizophrenia -- but there's NO WAY it could trigger death as Vyanka described. Am I reading that correctly?





I would disagree w/ this bc not every1 reacts the same way to a substance. My mother smoked in her college yrs but had very little difficulty kicking the habit, yet I have seen others who are moderate to light smokers (as my mother was) have horrid physical/psychological withdrawal experiences. Also I watched my ex have shakes, sweats, vicious mood swings trying to give up pot bc I put my foot down. He lasted two days.
I am not trying to discard your experiences as invalid, but it sounds a bit like 'since I've nvr experienced it myself, it doesn't happen'
Wait, what? I am not implying that a person who doesn't like pot is "crazy", I'm implying that hearing voices while intoxicated on ANY drug can mean you MIGHT have a mental illness worth exploring with a medical professional.
No drug can "cause" schizophrenia, it can just trigger an "attack" ie symptoms to appear. They would have appeared over time anyway in any person with schizophrenia. Hearing voices is not to be ignored. I'm sure if pot killed the kid then the autopsy would have said so, and obviously an autopsy was done otherwise how would the doctors have known they brain was "burned", other than to cut one's skull open, they don't just cut up every single person who dies. I'm sure if there was truly a documented case of pot burning a persons brain it would be national news.
Edit: Wanted to add "trigger" does not mean "cause" ever heard of a "trigger word"?





She had a weird/ disturbing trip. Doesn't mean there's smtg wrong w/ her. It sounded like you were implying that might be the case w/ your 'I hope you went to see a dr, it's nothing to be ashamed of' It actually came across as a bit patronising.
As to the autopsy report, altho there is technically no dr-patient privilege in the case of a dead patient, there are a number of laws covering the publishing of autopsy reports, which of course vary by area.





Thx ^ yeah, it was an aweful trip. Just like any other drug would do! Also caused depression a few days after smoking, every time I did it. My mental health is 100% good. None of that runs in my family either.
As for that kid. It was found in his autopsy that a cell in his brain was damaged so bad that it cut off his breathing. Marijuana was the only thing found in his system.
We can't deny pot has its side effects, bc it does.
Last edited by Vyanka; 08-31-2014 at 12:23 AM.





I'm sorry but, pot doesn't kill anyone, ever. There have been ZERO cases of recorded deaths by cannabis. It is not deadly in any sense. You would just pass out from smoking too much weed, long before your system could actually shut down from it.
Furthermore, explain how smoking weed "fried his brain"? Something doesn't sound legit here. Also, ONE brain cell dying would never ever cause you to stop breathing. That is total bullshit. I study science, in particular, biology and brain chemistry, and what you are saying has no scientific basis whatsoever. Also, the brain has the ability to grow new brain cells through neurogensis. So, ONE brain cell dying would not cause the body to shut down. Sounds to me like he died from a stroke or something else.
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