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    Default For any of you dancers who won't let a customer keep his hands at his sides

    I spend most of my time at Delilah's in Philadelphia, which is even now not some raging extras place. When I get a couch dance, I generally keep my hands to my sides. I don't mind contact. I feel less awkward just keeping things civil and not having to worry about the bouncers who constantly step in and monitor stuff. Still, a good 25% of the dancers will pick up my hands and put them on them.

    So, the question is to dancers who actually do this in some sort of "upscale" club: what's the reasoning? Are you so used to it that dancing for a guy without his hands on you is disturbing somehow? Is it supposed to generate more money somehow?
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    Default Re: For any of you dancers who won't let a customer keep his hands at his sides

    I guess a lot of the time (not speaking for myself here) it's a money-making thing. Idk really.

    Speaking for myself, I certainly won't fight a guy on it if he refuses to touch, bc I am not that fond of contact -- but at the same time, I allow it bc (apart from it being the norm in the particular club) when I can feel his hands on me, I know where they are & it is a bit easier to fend off unwelcome 'surprises'. So maybe that falls under a 'comfort' reason.

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    Default Re: For any of you dancers who won't let a customer keep his hands at his sides

    some girls feel they will get a bigger tip i'm guessing. personally if i'm lucky enough to get a guy who voluntarily keeps his hands by his side, i'm not complaining!!

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    Default Re: For any of you dancers who won't let a customer keep his hands at his sides

    Some dancers don't know how to give a lap dance without contact or simply don't believe that a customer will think it's worth the price, so they allow contact thinking it's the only way to make money. Some think it will make them *extra* money in the form of a tip at the end. Some are too drunk/high to notice or care that you're touching them. Some are desperate to make any money so they'll do what it takes to make it. Some are just not good hustlers and think contact is their only selling point. There are lots of reasons, but I can assure you that being "disturbed" over your lack of touching isn't really on the list.

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    I prefer custies keeping their hands to themselves, but I do think dancers that do that are trying to get more $. I knew one dancer who would kiss customers, thinking it would be easier to make a connection with them and upsell. It worked for her....but....gross.

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    Default Re: For any of you dancers who won't let a customer keep his hands at his sides

    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    Some dancers don't know how to give a lap dance without contact or simply don't believe that a customer will think it's worth the price, so they allow contact thinking it's the only way to make money. Some think it will make them *extra* money in the form of a tip at the end. Some are too drunk/high to notice or care that you're touching them. Some are desperate to make any money so they'll do what it takes to make it. Some are just not good hustlers and think contact is their only selling point. There are lots of reasons, but I can assure you that being "disturbed" over your lack of touching isn't really on the list.
    It sounds like you aren't one of the dancers who does it. I'm fine with people posting theories, but what I would really like is the reasoning of someone who actually does it.
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    I have, occasionally, guided a customer's hand/hands to my waist, after holding it or rubbing my hand up his arm over his shoulder and back down again. It's less "grope my ass" and more of a way to facilitate an embrace; does that make sense? If he tries to then move it to a place that makes me uncomfortable, I'll put a ninja stop to it.

    My preferred dance is a grope-free, grind-free, naked cuddle conversation, so it's not like I don't understand my worth or how to sell or anything like that. I'll do it if the customer just seems really uncomfortable (i.e. guys who are intimidated by hot blondes) and if a language barrier prevents me from building rapport verbally. I don't compromise my boundaries but I do legitimately want my customers to enjoy themselves!

    Idk though. Are the dancers you're talking about giving really physical dances? Where are they placing your hands, and how? If they are doing it in an extras-y way it is probably because they think they'll get more money, like others have said.

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    My rules: Don't touch my hair, don't touch my pussy, and don't void my warranty. And whatever new tattoo I have.
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    I'm top heavy. Gotta make sure that I don't fall off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    My rules: Don't touch my hair, don't touch my pussy, and don't void my warranty. And whatever new tattoo I have.
    Totally using this, as a sig.!


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    Default Re: For any of you dancers who won't let a customer keep his hands at his sides

    Quote Originally Posted by kaninchen View Post
    I have, occasionally, guided a customer's hand/hands to my waist, after holding it or rubbing my hand up his arm over his shoulder and back down again. It's less "grope my ass" and more of a way to facilitate an embrace; does that make sense? If he tries to then move it to a place that makes me uncomfortable, I'll put a ninja stop to it.

    My preferred dance is a grope-free, grind-free, naked cuddle conversation, so it's not like I don't understand my worth or how to sell or anything like that. I'll do it if the customer just seems really uncomfortable (i.e. guys who are intimidated by hot blondes) and if a language barrier prevents me from building rapport verbally. I don't compromise my boundaries but I do legitimately want my customers to enjoy themselves!

    Idk though. Are the dancers you're talking about giving really physical dances? Where are they placing your hands, and how? If they are doing it in an extras-y way it is probably because they think they'll get more money, like others have said.
    In clubs that allow it, I'm the same and do it for very similar reasons! And the reason I don't mind is because when I guide them, it is obviously clear then I am the one in control (i.e. as a self-employed dancer I choose to let this happen within my own boundaries when I want, not because I need to or am feeling pressured!!). That in itself really makes a lot of difference. I've even had some guys tell me they like it because when they feel I are happy to allow it, it makes THEM feel more desired as well. Win-win!

    Often I will do this in VIP and will time it carefully (e.g. If he has been good for most of the VIP and I sense throwing in a little more intimacy into the mix could work, I'll take his hands and place them on my waist near the end of our allotted time to help sell an extra VIP). I might also whisper something along the lines of it being very special treatment just to even touch me at all so he appreciates it and doesn't try to push my boundaries further. When I have good chemistry with a customer, I genuinely don't mind it. It can be kinda nice actually, and I feel that when I'm trying to pour a little extra into the fantasy it works really well for us both.

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    Default Re: For any of you dancers who won't let a customer keep his hands at his sides

    Since you're in my area, OP, I would assume it probably has to do with how high contact the Philly clubs are. Being touched is the norm and it's an easy way to potentially raise a tip. Of course most of us would prefer minimal contact, but that's just not how it is around here.

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    Default Re: For any of you dancers who won't let a customer keep his hands at his sides

    Late response, but while I would never move the hands of a customer who was not touching me in order to make him touch me, I am just so used to having a customer's hands on me during a dance that it feels weird when someone just keeps his hands at his sides. Many out-of-town guys keep their hands at their sides, and even though I know it's probably just because they're used to lower mileage clubs in their home areas, it tends to make me feel like they're not enjoying the dance. I get awkward because I've come to expect hands on my waist or shoulders as positive reinforcement. When a guy touches me, it's easier for me to gauge how into the dance he is and how likely he is to keep buying more. That's in addition to it being easier to prevent unwanted contact that way like others have mentioned.

    That said, I definitely prefer guys who keep their hands to themselves to guys who are forceful and grabby and do things like try to lift their hips up and shove their dicks into my coochie.

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    Default Re: For any of you dancers who won't let a customer keep his hands at his sides

    many of the positions most girls do puts their vag extremely close or on top of guys hands that are by theit side, which is not okay. so i personally move them to wherever makes most sense.

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