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    Ok I have a few things to say about this. Dancers (or the equivalent being cam girls) are the second most sought after murder victims, right underneath prostitutes. Now I would like to tell you about my ex, whom I met in a strip club, as I am a former stripper.

    I became all too familiar with the word "sociopath." A classic sociopath is your perfect Prince Charming; he's handsome, intelligent, funny, loaded, amazing in bed, etc etc...or at least so he says, but you have no reason to believe otherwise.
    Most of them have absolutely NO problem getting women, so why are they preying online or in the club? Well, let me tell you why.

    Because they like to conquer the unattainable. And nothing is more unattainable than the personal feelings of a sex worker; we are by far the hardest to seduce, as we're only after someone's money and all that bullshit they spew falls on deaf ears until we see their bank account. But here comes Prince Charming, who by the way is a COMPULSIVE FUCKING LIAR and potentially dangerous. Sociopaths are extremely intelligent and therefore can lie like the devil; they LOVE to manipulate and actually get off knowing they've caught you in their web. From there begins the cycle of grabbing your attention, making you dependent on him and then subtly tearing down your self esteem so you feel like you have no one but him. He then has the power to, at best, ignore you and at worst, abuse you, pimp you out, hold you hostage or even kill you. MANY sociopathic relationships turn abusive, as did mine with my ex and some even result in homicide cases. Lacey Peterson fell victim to her sociopathic husband.

    So all of these things that are assuring you (how nice he is, how good looking he is, the fact that he could have any woman) should actually be your biggest warning signs. If he could have any woman he wants, why is he prowling through a chat room? There's a damn good reason for it.

    Be smart about this. He's only a man and it's only money; there's plenty of both in this world and neither are worth risking your life.


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    Thanks HaydenBlue, I appreciate! Really. I love the opinions! From the hearth.

    Yes I’m young, and maybe you all have much more experience than me, but in general I do not like to much to put tickets on the persons… to categorize.
    Scarlet, LaPetite, I do not want obviously judge anyone, but if I’m maybe candy and naïve you are really scared, scared of anybody in general, I do not want to became so… I hope I will die as I am.

    Now the things are two. I can respect the rules, even the ones of the studio where I work and remain here to please for a few bucks a 10% of nice guys and 90% of #### that are treating me like a ####….
    Or I can risk… maybe not more than how much I risked the last time I met someone in a disco.

    I took my decision I will enjoy the risk to remain brave. If I will not be back two are the possibilities, the second one will be far away from this website. I agree I will never find a girl with a different opinion on this website. Is obvious. A girl with a different pov can not continue with this work for a long time...

    Now please do not judge me, I respect you all. Namasté
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    Default Re: This seems to be my train :) Help! What should I do?

    I'm really confused as to why this thread was started and wondering if it was just to get strong reactions from the ladies on here. I dunno.

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    "Because they like to conquer the unattainable. And nothing is more unattainable than the personal feelings of a sex worker; we are by far the hardest to seduce"

    I totally agree with you. That makes him stand up in my opinion.

    Thanks for your words Farrah.

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    I don't think that should make him stand up. I think that should make him look scary. You're not a trophy to win; you're a person. I'm sure you would feel differently if you were one of his trophy sex slaves or one of his trophy murder victims

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    Default Re: This seems to be my train :) Help! What should I do?

    Ok. This either reeks of troll or you have a lot of life experiences you need to go through because you're extremely naive'. But I'm thinking it's the former.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodie91 View Post
    Scarlet, LaPetite, I do not want obviously judge anyone, but if I’m maybe candy and naïve you are really scared, scared of anybody in general, I do not want to became so… I hope I will die as I am.

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    I'm not scared of anybody. I'm simply not stupid and hold value on my life. I also cammed long enough to know these guys lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodie91 View Post
    Thanks HaydenBlue, I appreciate! Really. I love the opinions! From the hearth.

    Yes I’m young, and maybe you all have much more experience than me, but in general I do not like to much to put tickets on the persons… to categorize.
    Scarlet, LaPetite, I do not want obviously judge anyone, but if I’m maybe candy and naïve you are really scared, scared of anybody in general, I do not want to became so… I hope I will die as I am.

    Now the things are two. I can respect the rules, even the ones of the studio where I work and remain here to please for a few bucks a 10% of nice guys and 90% of #### that are treating me like a ####….
    Or I can risk… maybe not more than how much I risked the last time I met someone in a disco.

    I took my decision I will enjoy the risk to remain brave. If I will not be back two are the possibilities, the second one will be far away from this website. I agree I will never find a girl with a different opinion on this website. Is obvious. A girl with a different pov can not continue with this work for a long time...

    Now please do not judge me, I respect you all. Namasté
    j.
    Oh no, I'm sorry if you thought I was judging you. I'm drawing conclusions, so I apologize for that.
    I'm warning you about the risks involved with meeting a person within days of first contact and them wanting to take you to an island in the middle of the indian ocean, away from anyone and everyone you know.
    If you trust someone who you've known for such a short period of time, by all means, go on. I'm serious when I say that it's your life and if you want to go, you can. No one but you can stop you.
    But be very mindful of the fact that just because he treats you nicely does not mean he's nice. Just because he may not be a serial killer or may not be a sex offender does not mean he can be your one way ticket to a financially comfortable life. Just be careful. The last thing we'd all want to do is encourage you to do this without warning you and you end up disappointed at the very least.
    Guys always talk about having big money, but some barely ever deliver. It's usually just a ploy to win you over emotionally or sexually.
    You're obviously an adult though and you can do any and everything you want, girl! Just PLEASE be safe and smart. Please please please.
    Again, sorry if I was mean!


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    Default Re: This seems to be my train :) Help! What should I do?

    OP, please take into consideration the amount of ladies here telling you NOT TO GO THROUGH WITH IT because you're not listening and by not listening you can set yourself up for PAIN. Facebook pages can be faked. Just because a guy has a FB page and it says he's divorced doesn't mean he's not a psycho lunatic murderer. Audri made a great example. Ted Bundy was handsome, smart, charismatic (he even had a fiance whilst he was murdering) and had money but he still lured women into his car and killed them. The only reason he got caught is because one of his victims fought for her life and got away. You might not be so lucky.

    This guy has only bought a few 20 min shows with you and is already using them to manipulate you into meeting him in person. He's already expressed to you that HE WILL NO LONGER BE BUYING SHOWS WITH YOU. By allowing him to purchase your ticket (if that even goes that far because he can ask your name and disappear and then stalk you) you're giving up your PERSONAL INFORMATION. Does this not strike you as odd at all? Your intuition should be throwing danger signs at you. You obviously are a bit weary because you're here asking us for advice. This is your conscious speaking; listen to her! He wants to sleep with you (since he's supposedly flying you out) and perhaps do even worse. Why not just join a local sugar daddy site where you can be safe in a place you are familiar with? Why must you fly around the world for a stranger who's "talked" to you for a total of one hour in paid chat?

    Wasn't it not long ago that another Eastern European girl (no offense ladies) came to us asking about a guy who was spoiling her and wanted to meet her? He was giving her his CC and telling her to buy anything she wanted, etc. She said he owned a bar and blah, blah, blah but refused to listen to us as she thought he was Prince Charming. Things that make you go hmmmm.




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    Exactly. Money is an extremely popular method of manipulation amongst sociopaths. I had an extremely high paying regular whom my income solely came from and, lo and behold, he tried to play the "I'll stop paying you" game. Started off with going to dinner, which was fine, and then moved onto trying to get me into his house. Luckily I didn't fall for his crap but a friend of mine did; he found out where she lived, moved into her neighborhood, got a job down the street, etc JUST so he could have an excuse to drive past her house every night. One of the bouncers found him under her car at the club, waiting for her to come out.

    These aren't horror stories made up to scare you; these things really DO happen and this guy smells very very fishy.

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    Just because he has not asked you to get naked does not mean anything. That is how they get you. They want you to feel comfortable and relaxed... they want to come across as "a nice guy", earn your trust. But at the end of the day: HE MET YOU ON A SEX SITE. THAT IS WHAT HE WILL EXPECT. I promise And I don't know if you are new to camming, (which I feel like you are), but I think all women on cam sites get asked to meet.... all... the... time. Some are serious, some are not. Most of the guys that have asked to meet and have sounded serious have taken me private "just to chat" for long periods of time with little to no work on my part. And let me tell you girl, they always stop paying once they think they have you in the bag.

    Please be careful stuff like this is very dangerous. We are generally looked at as lesser people because of what we do. Guys that come on to sex sites to try to meet girls always come across as "predators" to me. They are shopping, we are all on a shelf in front of them and you caught his eye. Maybe when he ends chat with you he moves on to next girl to try to get her, too. Not trying to hurt your feelings, but it is reality. Nothing is a fairytale. You life, body, and mind are precious, treat it like that

    I agree with lots of girls here who say you already have your mind made up. Oh and please dont give him any personal info if you haven't already. PLease be safe and good luck.

    And may I ask how old you are? I came from a bad life and bad family, so in my late teens, early twenties I was very naive and would fall for any man that would even hold the door open for me. I always thought I could just find a guy to take me away from my life. Through life experience, personal epiphanies, camming, I have developed confidence and know how to say no. I know I am much stronger and beautiful than anyone has ever told me or gave me credit for.

    Im not saying you are like that, but if it is a "new life" you are searching for, bad situations at home or whatever, please find a different way.

    Please be safe. Do NOT trust anyone.

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    I didn't buy it starting from post #1 and I'm still not buying it. This thread spells "I'm a male fishing for info" all over it. NO ONE is this stupid.

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    I also smell a troll. reasoning is completely bass-ackwards. how can you not see the difference between the risk of meeting this guy in a bar and flying across the world to meet him with nothing but a suitcase? would you fly across the world with a guy you met yesterday at the coffeeshop? where's the logic.

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    We aren't trying to make you feel guilty. All the ladies here on SW look out for one another, from experienced to newbies. Stripper, escort, cam model.





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    Editing because I did not read "Maldives" in the OP's post. I honestly didn't get further than, "meet guy from camming" and "He said he would not pay me any more".
    This is pretty serious and I hope OP understands the seriousness of the position she quite possibly is putting herself in. A very real, very serious, very dangerous situation.
    Last edited by Airrrie2; 09-01-2014 at 03:57 PM.

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    Hey you never know, even if it's a predator, we are still warning women why they shouldn't do this.





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    I do get a whiff of troll, but there are also girls out there this naive :/ and if just one naive girl comes across this thread and it changes her mind on something, then good .

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    Sorry OP, I'll be blunt and say I don't smell troll. I smell dumb.
    But hey, if you want to risk your life going to a small island with someone you've never met before? Go for it. But please, don't come crying back to us if you're raped or assaulted. You obviously can't come crying back to us if you're dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airrrie2 View Post
    I didn't buy it starting from post #1 and I'm still not buying it. This thread spells "I'm a male fishing for info" all over it. NO ONE is this stupid.

    ..................

    I was completely thinking the same thing from jump.


    I am sorry but to me a trick is a trick is a trick, whether you meet in a strip club, escorting or on the internet and I think most of us keep that in mind but there are always a few ladies who feel it is okay to cross certain lines we all know we should not cross. To each their own, I am not judging. It is not that people are judging you, you came here looking for advice on your "gravy train" and that is what you got. Clearly you really did not want that as you quickly discard any of it because you are not hearing what you thought you would and you have clearly already made up your mind on what to do.

    If it is love and a relationship you are looking for go out into the real world and meet someone, this guy sounds like a joke, a joke that is played out, a joke that we have all heard a million times before. Sure it might happen, but I think with the way you met this person, those chances are slim to none.

    Good luck.
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    Ok he is playing you!
    He is withdrawing his attention for you by not visiting you anymore.. hoping you will take the bait
    Not to mention he is TRYING to RUSH you before you have time to think about it or ask anyone for advice.. that's what predators do!... A long time ago.. maybe 10 yrs ago I went on a video shoot to Chicago last minute.. He said his other model cancelled and he needed someone immediately.. NOW NOW NOW.. I had NO time to plan or think or ask questions.. So I did!.. he ended up pushing me down.. hitting me in the jaw and refused to pay me .. and then he cancelled my ticket back home and the reason being was he expected me to work first and get paid later... uhhh no that's not how it works and I refused to do what he wanted.. And this was supposed to be BUSINESS!.. and I had done many shoots before so I had experience.. but this guy rushed me soooooooo much I hadn't had the time to really research it.. SO NO!.. YOU will not get what he is promising to you.

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    He told me that in any case, he would not get back to me once more on the cam website, indeed today he doesn’t come as usual to wish me a good day; but he left me his email address.





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    Even if this is just a troll, there are still women reading this post who need to know this information. There are plenty of brand spankin new workers who ARE naive enough to believe this crap. Or the women who are desperate to get out of the industry and want to find a guy to take care of them. Desperation can lead the mind to believe a lot of things. Not to mention these guys can be great at mind fucking girls

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    If you want a sugardaddy and live out crazy fantasies become a sugarbaby, I have been a sugarbaby for quite sometime, have i met guys, duhh, gone on vacations, duh, get paid tons, duhh.

    But guess what? I am also a camgirl and would NEVER meet up with a camjohn. For me personally there is a huge difference in a real sugar daddy than a cam john okay?

    I never had any issues with a sugardaddy to be honest. But it CAN happen, but i feel its less likely because its a mutual beneficial relationship and we set boundaries and go about things a certain way.

    I dont think most cam johns are sugardaddies!!!! AT ALL. This is two seperate fucking worlds lolol

    if you want that life girl be fucking safe.
    Heres some websites

    sugardaddyforme.com
    Seekingarrangements.com
    Whatsyourprice.com

    I'm not against meeting people online by any means, but tbh the only stalker i have EVER had was from Camming. Like a legit psycopath who also spent a shit ton in pvt and exclusive and was the best damn regular to have. Until he was stalking my ass!

    and for fucks sake dont leave the house without a tazer.

    I just don't think this a good idea.... this is NOT a sugar daddy this is a shitty ass guy trying to lure you into something evil thats my opinion. And i know the risks of being a sugarbaby too.
    Is the money worth it or not? I have always brought friends with me on vacations. never once have been alone with a sugardaddy and still got paid, infact the daddys would send me large amounts of cash before even meeting.

    At least have him send you a couple grand to know hes legit. If he doesnt send the money send him packing! he aint shit!

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    You are the exact type of person that shouldn't work in the adult industry. This guy bought a few shows and seemed nice, but you have no idea what he is like offline. He offered to fly you to a small island, alone. In your mind that somehow equals sugar daddy. You have no idea what a cam sugar daddy is. There are men that spend thousands of dollars on cam performers and send gifts. They never ask to meet you in person, they respect the boundaries. I have a cam customer that I have know for years, back from privatecamz. He does four or five hour shows a few times a week. He sends gifts, he has sent a lot of money and never once has he tried to buy me a ticket to meet him. He is also a fantastic business executive but we both know we are friends, online friends only.

    Camming is about ONLINE fun, most cam contracts state you are NOT allowed to meet customers in person. It's all about fantasy. This guy could be broke with credit cards maxed out. He sold you on his online personality and the fact that you are even thinking about it shows you are not cam performer material. Do yourself a favor and retire before you get yourself killed. I hate to be harsh but I'm tired of performers doing stupid shit that make the sites add more rules and in the end effects us all.
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    Then they shouldn't be in this industry. You don't last in this industry because you're cute, you last because you're smart. We were all new once and we were smart enough to know to not meet people in person. No one should need another person to take care of them, you are with someone to build a partnership.


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    Even if this is just a troll, there are still women reading this post who need to know this information. There are plenty of brand spankin new workers who ARE naive enough to believe this crap. Or the women who are desperate to get out of the industry and want to find a guy to take care of them. Desperation can lead the mind to believe a lot of things. Not to mention these guys can be great at mind fucking girls

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    Not to be argumentative, but I think this applies to women in general; not just those seeking to meet someone from the internet. I don't think naive people belong in this industry, but who am I to tell her that? She'll learn. But if she uses basic safety precautions, takes the advice of others AND makes decent money, she might build a successful career out of it. I started dancing when I was 18. If I said I wasn't young and a little dumb back then, I'd be lying. Luckily I set firm boundaries for myself from the beginning, but that doesn't mean I haven't learned a LOT of lessons over the past 7 years, and I'm still learning to this day. I think that's why we all come here, to ask questions, learn and share our expertise. If she's not going to listen then so be it, but I'd rather give her kind words about how to be a professional worker while staying safe than tell her to toss up her hands and quit. Again not to be argumentative; that's just my two cents

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    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-28-2005, 01:58 AM

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