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    Hey guys! I have been searching google the past few days trying to find out the best way to receive payments online. I have been a webcam model for about 2 months now, and so far any shows I have done privately offsite I have been paid inAmazon gift cards. This has been great but I now have a ton of money on Amazon which I don't use all that often and I would much rather be able to use it to pay bills.any help would be appreciated, I need to keep my personal information as an autonomous as possible

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    I was going to make a Payoneer account but I'm being told that US residents can't

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    if you're in the US and your clients are as well you can use Green Dot MoneyPak. Payoneer does allow US residents to sig up for the debit card but Payoneer isn't really a sustainable option for accepting payments directly from clients. If you don't receive continuous payments from a Payoneer partner (cam site) your ability to accept private payments is curtailed, and beyond that Payoneer doesn't actually process a private payment until a few days after it's made, meaning that you have no idea whether it will actually go through until after the fact. Payoneer doesn't wish to be a payment processor for client to performer transactions so they've set things up this way by design.

    Another option is to set up a merchant account with an IPSP (internet payment service provider) such as CCBill, Epoch or Verotel. These services take 15% and charge $1000 per year to accept Visa and Mastercard.

    You could also join a listing site that offers payment processing. The highest payout sites are CamGirlServices (78%), PayMyShow (80%) and LiveCamModelShows (80% base that rises to 85% for those who earn $100 per week or more). I'm not sure if the first two accept men but it's worth looking into, I know LiveCamModelShows.com accepts men because I run it.

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    As much hate as it seems to get on this board, bitcoin is the name of the game when it comes to anonymous money. I know it's scary to get into, but truly it's an AMAZING tool for anonymous payment and receiving of funds. It's not even risky as you can convert the funds from Bitcoin back into dollars as quickly as you desire with services like coinbase. If you want to know more I would be happy to coach you through it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by biguym8 View Post
    I was going to make a Payoneer account but I'm being told that US residents can't
    did u sign up for payoneer via a camsite? For instance, i enrolled with payoneer a few years ago via live jasmine i think... i worked there like 2 days, but i was able to get the payoneer account. like when u go into ur camsite to set up payment and u select payoneer, ull see a link, that says "dont have a payoneer acct" or something like that. Ive heard of many models having problems when they apply directly. payoneer is great for camsites, but honestly its unreliable at best for private loads. it can take up to a couple of days to see if the payment will go through.

    i wouldnt go with paypal, or google wallet, or even gift rocket... ive been screwed out of lots of money with gift rocket... and they all have tos saying no adult work ofc. i would definitely say ur best bet is what Love Shooks said about joining a listing site. less hassle and stress plus traffic. In the beginning of my camming career i was a skype girl, but i did everything wrong. lost several paypal accounts, a ton in chargebacks etc. Quick money is appealing, especially when your hand to mouth, like i was, but you'll lose more in the long run.

    i never used bitcoin, but it sounds interesting!
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    In the interest of 'full disclosure' I would again point out to US camgirls that the IRS has declared bitcoin to be an 'asset' rather than a currency. The result of this is that, for full IRS compliance, US girls receiving payments in bitcoins must keep track of the equivalent US dollar value on the day those bitcoins were received, also keep track of the equivalent US dollar value on the day those bitcoins were 'spent' ( = reconverted to US dollars ). The equivalent US dollar value on the day bitcoins are received must be reported as income. But it is also necessary to report the equivalent US dollar value difference for each separate bitcoin 'spending' transaction as a 'capital gain' on Schedule D, and pay capital gains taxes accordingly.

    I would also point out that the IRS / DOJ have developed a great deal of interest in bitcoin ... and have arguably adopted a presumption that persons transacting in bitcoins have 'something to hide'. Thus while transacting in bitcoins is not illegal, the potential IRS 'burden' involved is noteworthy.

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    Melonie, the US has taken a great deal of interest in it's own citizens full sale. Spying on it's own citizens, this government is one that is fearful of it's own people and it is because it is corrupt. Everyone will always try to overtax you and take what you've earned, paypal accounts shut down for camgirls and strippers without ever giving them their earnings. Bitcoin is no more dangerous than taking such payments, and the government will always try to be up it's ass because it subverts them.

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    ^^^ avoiding the politics, all I can say is that I chose to become a US ex-pat for a reason !!!

    Unfortunately, that does not change the arguable fact that transacting in bitcoin will probably make US girls a larger IRS 'target' because the IRS considers bitcoin transactions to be 'suspicious' in and of themselves. If the US girls do everything the IRS requires them to do in regard to reporting bitcoin based income and bitcoin exchange rate related capital gains, then no big deal ( other than the obvious degree of extra exchange rate and transaction accounting necessary ). But if they fail to meet those IRS requirements, they could be providing the IRS with a wide-open opportunity to 'rake them over the coals'.

    Also, for adult industry workers specifically, today's news re PayPal and Bitcoin may further complicate matters ... from

    (snip)"The 152 million registered user ecommerce powerhouse announced in a blog post this afternoon that it is joining forces with today’s leading Bitcoin processors -- BitPay, Coinbase and GoCoin -- to at last enable its digital goods merchants to accept the cryptocurrency. This means PayPal sellers will be able to get paid in Bitcoin for digital wares like games, music and ringtones. “PayPal is excited about all the innovations taking place in payments these days,” Scott Ellison, PayPal’s senior director of corporate strategy said in the announcement. “More choices in how people create value, share it, buy, sell and trade it – that’s exactly what PayPal is all about. And we believe Bitcoin offers unique opportunities as more people and businesses experiment with it.”(snip)

    There aren't any additional details available since this announcement was just made by PayPal. But, historically speaking, PayPal has not been supportive of adult industry related e-commerce. And the following was also included in the PayPal - bitcoin news blurb ... (snip)The day the news broke, Wired called PayPal’s growing support of the cryptocash “the best thing that could happen to Bitcoin,” with the potential to seriously polish its Silk Road-tarnished image in the public eye. (snip)
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