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    Tired Hustling the Old Dudes?

    I've noticed recently that the old farts have taken an interest in me and I've been getting some dances off them (when they approach my tip rail and ask for them.) When I first started dancing they almost never went for me because I had an "edgier" look I guess? The thing is, I just really don't like sitting with and talking to men over 50. With a few exceptions they're usually boring and I just have no idea what to say to these people. I'm going to have to work some earlier shifts to reach my goal for the September Challenge so I am going to have to deal with them. I know how to hustle guys under 40 very easily. I can usually tell if they're going to spend or not, and I can pick their personalities apart pretty quickly. I just don't know with old dudes. I tried using my tried and true silent treatment/ice queen persona on them (which white and Mexican boys seem to love) but the grandpas aren't going for it. Help me....

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    Default Re: Hustling the Old Dudes?

    I find the old dudes like a lady that can hold her own in a conversation and has something going on outside of dancing (be it real or pretend). I also feel that a GFE/friendly persona goes over well with them. IME most of them aren't just there for T&A, but they want the companionship aspect that happens to come in a beautiful package.


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    I'm new to stripping, so take this with a grain of salt, but older men love me, even though I have tattoos and short hair.

    I agree about the conversation. They like women who know art, music and history. Don't be afraid to express your own political opinions, even if your opinions go against theirs. I got an hour VIP from a right wing guy after telling him why I was voting for the most left wing party in our country. He said he liked that I had obviously put thought into it, and was passionate about politics. Talk about things that you care about, and be enthusiastic.

    I've found flattery works well, even if they know it's not true. Older men are (in my experience) more aware that what they're paying for is fantasy, so they don't seem to mind if you go over the top with your compliments. Tell them they are handsome, that you like older men, that their job or hobbies are impressive. Tell them you're turned on while dancing for them. I will often approach an older guy, and if he doesn't get a dance I'll go away and talk to other customers or do a stage set, then when I come back to him I'll say something like, "I missed you. I've been waiting for hours to get naked for you, are you going to make it happen?" They love it.

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    older men used to love me when i was tiny and blond.. they like snuggling, good conversation, slow seductive sensual dancing, eye contact, smart dancers that know about politics/economics/travel/language but don't appear smarter than they are of course haha. usually with older men i'll act more like a "lady"..no cursing, take out my piercings for the night, be bright and bubbly, and ooh and ahh at their knowledge like a sap. i'll tell them they remind me of my hot teacher i had a torrid affair with. ime the older guys ( at least the ones who aren't senile) won't go for the overdramatic flattery or fake moaning during dances, i try and still compliment them but be believable.

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    I don't usually get "Pervert Macgreyballs" but last week I got a really cool pensioner who was a retired Army major. I had my "real" hair out and it was dead. I figured fuck it, ask for a dance. We got to talking about the media and "unattainable beauty standards". He pointed out that back in his day the average woman had a 25 inch waist, with only a 3 inch difference to the reining sexpot of the day, Marilyn Monroe. (22 inches) That got us on a great discussion (and me on my soapbox) about personal accountability and the importance of good nutrition and exercise. He tipped me very generously and I hope to see him again. He still goes to the gym and can probably kick my ass!!!!!!
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    I have always done very well with old guys. Agreed that they like a girl who can hold a conversation. If you can make them laugh, they're usually sold. Small chat and ice queen does not seem to work on them in my experience.

    Edit: Also, they are usually very sold on classier lingerie/looking expensive. I am usually wearing fishnets with lace tops, blingy but subtle rhinestone bracelets, curled hair, and they looooove it.
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    And if you're a pretty black girl it's a slam dunk. (Years of observation)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    And if you're a pretty black girl it's a slam dunk. (Years of observation)
    Omg so true. My bff used to dance with me, and she's a super skinny, super pretty black girl who made so much bank off the Whitey McGrayballs. Like it was ridiculous.

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    I also tend to get older black gentlemen that like me. They're generally older, educated professionals who are quite a nice respite from the young louts that are my main source of income.
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    I love the old bastards! I'm another vote for building on conversation. I like to talk to them about old movies and their liquors of choice. I recommend ordering whiskey or scotch to get them started on that topic. I would also suggest cleaning up your language a bit if you are one to cuss a lot. My phone immediately tries to type either "chipotle" or "cunt" when I hit the c button, so that tendency wasn't a selling point...

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    Lol old men love love love black girls

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    Quote Originally Posted by CocoaButter View Post
    Lol old men love love love black girls
    Yes they do.

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    Oh man, old men are my specialty! I have the opposite problem: I make no inroads with the under-40s, all my money comes from the old guys. Basically, I've found that playing it as a sweet, friendly girl who's inexperienced/innocent but secretly naughty works really well. I let my body language suggest sex but keep my conversation fairly PG. I always try to get them to be the first to make a dirty joke or an innuendo, and then react as positively as I can to it. That's when I start steering the conversation towards a dance.

    I agree completely with the importance of conversation, but would add that PG touch is extremely important. I'll start out touching their arm as I make a point in conversation, and move to rubbing their leg and sitting really close with them, to touching their face when I think I'm getting close to a sale. When I give lapdances to them I always opt for sensual: lots of hugging, giggling, touching their hair, etc. I try to make the more sexual stuff I do (grinding, etc) seem kind of incidental while being sure to include lots of it. I try to make them feel like virile young men: interesting and sexy in both mind and body. Even when it's bullshit :p

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    I can say that older males make better customers AND boyfriends because 1) they have more disposable income 2) they are mature and 3) they have truly stopped giving a sh*t what other people think.

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    I had an old guy into me the other night! With my real hair too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tempest666 View Post
    I had an old guy into me the other night! With my real hair too!
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    Old men are my bread and butter. They love me & I usually love them. They are usually way more interesting to talk to, too. The younger ones bore me to death.
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    I'll tell you what, why don't you take all the customers under 40 and I'll take all the customers over 40?

    I've got the opposite problem in that I can't stand the young guys. They always talk about stupid shit and are very annoying to hang out with. Once in a while, I'll meet a young guy with an old soul, but mostly the young ones are just a pain in my ass.

    In order to put yourself in a position to find your preferred customers, work your schedule around theirs. Young guys will be in the club in the evenings or weekends. Older customers will be in the club on day shift (if retired) or early evenings. Try to work in the clubs that attract your preferred client base, so that way you have a better chance of making sales on any given day.

    The key to maximizing your time in the club is to work the customers you know fall into your normal client base.

    Older customers are harder to manipulate with simple flirty conversation, so you have to be able to provide a genuine experience for them. A pretty face and a hot body are not enough for most older customers to open their wallets. You need to make them feel "young." You need to convince them that you really do find them attractive. You need to really listen to them when they are talking to you. You can't sell them bullshit because they have enough life experience to tell when a dancer is bullshitting him.

    The benefits of learning how to close the older customer is that he will spend more and can easily be turned into a regular. Most of the older guys don't flinch at the cost of a room. You have to invest some time into him before attempting to close the sale. It's easy enough to get a customer to part with $20, but they want a little more foreplay before coughing up $500 or more for a VIP room. Even (maybe especially) the rich guys want to know that they are going to get some good entertainment for their money. I'm not talking extras, I'm talking about them having fun for an entire hour with you. If there is no personality match, that hour long show can feel like an eternity.

    But if you don't mesh well with the older demographic, maybe it is just best to try hustling the younger customers in the club first before trying to step outside your sales comfort zone. Once you've exhausted the younger customer base in the club, then try stretching your wings with the older guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinaroja View Post
    Oh man, old men are my specialty! I have the opposite problem: I make no inroads with the under-40s, all my money comes from the old guys. Basically, I've found that playing it as a sweet, friendly girl who's inexperienced/innocent but secretly naughty works really well. I let my body language suggest sex but keep my conversation fairly PG. I always try to get them to be the first to make a dirty joke or an innuendo, and then react as positively as I can to it. That's when I start steering the conversation towards a dance.

    I agree completely with the importance of conversation, but would add that PG touch is extremely important. I'll start out touching their arm as I make a point in conversation, and move to rubbing their leg and sitting really close with them, to touching their face when I think I'm getting close to a sale. When I give lapdances to them I always opt for sensual: lots of hugging, giggling, touching their hair, etc. I try to make the more sexual stuff I do (grinding, etc) seem kind of incidental while being sure to include lots of it. I try to make them feel like virile young men: interesting and sexy in both mind and body. Even when it's bullshit :p
    Reposting and quoting this because this advice is GOLD! It deserves to be read and reread. Reinaroja knows her shit!

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