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    Hello to all of my beautiful long lost bbies. I am sorry to come here under these circumstances after all of this time. My webcam and toys have literally collected dust. I just really need some advice..it is complicated.

    I have had my ups and downs with camming and have been in the business since I was 18. I was determined to stop camming in the last few years, I had become burnt out and passionless. I was also in a very dark depression and it got ugly.

    I ventured out in 2012 and got a job at a gentlemens club serving cocktails, and worked as a cocktail server for about a year. The club then shut down . I got back into camming in Feb 2013. I missed it and the freedom. Having a normal job and being back in that environment was too much for me to bear. I am not against stripping and have been there, but it was much too much. I am also a recovering alcoholic so that had a little to do with it. I did not have a drop to drink and did well, I just did not have the emotional strength to deal.

    So I cammed thru 2013. In December 2013, my old manager from the club called me and asked if I was interested in working at a new club that had opened that he was managing. He offered me a doorgirl job, I jumped on it. A few months later, I received another job offer at a Casino here. I took the casino job. It had its pros and cons, the money was good. I had to maintain sales goals, and I did well with it for the first few months. Last month, not so good, but I never imagined they would let me go. They let me go yesterday, in a very shady fashion. I showed up ready to work and just attended a meeting on my day off. When I got there, there was another girl there to work and I was asked to go to the back office. Right then I knew. I have been a good employee and gave it my best, but deep down, I was unhappy. I never had a problem in a sales job like this, never had a problem making my goals camming, etc, so it came as a shock to me that this was such a struggle and that I was not successful maintaining my sales goals. I am sad but it is what it is. I have been looking for a new job and was not happy.

    Sorry I am just rambling now, as I usually do lol. Other then becoming this passionless burnt out camgirl, there was another reason why I left camming. It is complicated but lets just say in 2012 I had a family to feed and did not save money on the side for taxes. I owe the IRS a decent chunk of money. I figured if I stayed camming, I would just be digging a deeper hole. When I returned to camming in 2013, I paid off a lot of the debt, but because I was camming over 2013, owed the IRS more money. Since I worked a normal job as an employee, it was not as much, but I am still paying off the debt.

    I miss camming so much and the 9-5 life crushes my soul to the extreme. I am in a very dark depression and I can't see a way out. I want to return to camming. The devil inside says do it, the angel says NO it will make it worse. My thinking tells me, if I do it and save 50% I can pay off the tax debt, and also save money to pay estimated quarterly, it will be difficult, but it can be done. I am also very tenacious, and I feel like I have given up on my camming career because of the debt, and I should not let that stop me. But realistically, becoming an employee was the only way to stop racking up more debt with the IRS. Since I have worked since December of 2013, I keep telling myself if I got back into it, for the year 2014 I would break even, and any refund I would have would go towards my IRS debt. I have also been paying an additional amount per week as an employee, so although my checks have been small, it will help out in the longrun.

    I admit I am scared and I do not know which step I am going to take next, but I do know this: I need to make money. I have been looking for a job for the past month and after hours upon hours of applications, a minimal response. I have went on so many interviews I cannot keep count and I feel they have gone well, been confident that I have had the job, but then no reply/no call back/no answer to my messages.

    I just need any advice I can get. Have any of you been in debt with the IRS? Have you remained camming thru it? Is there any form of releif? I am considering doing an offer in compromise. There are options but my head is spinning.

    I just feel like I have given up on myself and my career in camming. I have spent hours upon hours last night and today filling out more applications, etc. All of these hours I could have been on cam at least making some money. Some money is better then no money at all. Working as an independent contractor, better then no job at all. I feel so much better just letting some of this out. Hope to hear back from some of you soon. I hope all of you have been doing well. The industry really is fascinating to me, after all of this time I see some of the same faces and screennames. After all of this time, I could pick up where I left off lol. I will certainly have alot of revamping to do but it will be better then filling out all of these damn online applications lol. TY BBIES!
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    Have you made a payment plan with them? If so, have you stuck with it? If you have, just continue to make your monthly payments and then make sure you pay quarterly taxes. Honestly, if you just keep focused and grind you can get out of this hole you have dug yourself in. Everyday you need to be focused on it. Make a budget and stick to it. And promise yourself that once you pay your taxes off that you will develop a plan to start saving for your future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    I owe the IRS a decent chunk of money. I figured if I stayed camming, I would just be digging a deeper hole. When I returned to camming in 2013, I paid off a lot of the debt, but because I was camming over 2013, owed the IRS more money. Since I worked a normal job as an employee, it was not as much, but I am still paying off the debt.

    I miss camming so much and the 9-5 life crushes my soul to the extreme. I am in a very dark depression and I can't see a way out. I want to return to camming. The devil inside says do it, the angel says NO it will make it worse. My thinking tells me, if I do it and save 50% I can pay off the tax debt, and also save money to pay estimated quarterly, it will be difficult, but it can be done.
    I'm not getting what you mean there.

    You still have to pay taxes as an employee too (actually I pay even less now because of the deductions I take for using my home as my place of business).

    Are you saying you don't have the discipline to put aside tax money?

    I would think you'd have a much higher income camming, wouldn't you? and be able to pay that tax debt off sooner.


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    awww im sorry cyber! ive been up and down too, and havent been on here much. sounds like ur having a tough go of it...

    ever the optimist, i have a few suggestions for you, to make extra money. There are clip sites which got me out of the camming grind. c4s in particular pays all my bills and i only cam when i have to. u sound pretty knowledgable tho, so im sure ur aware of it and may have tried it =(

    also, selling stuff on amazon. amazon fulfilment i believe its called. u just post it on amazon and mail it to amazon, they take care of the rest. its pretty easy to get started, and u can get apps for your phone that scans barcodes and tells you exactly what you'd make at current prices. basically you start at yard sales, and sales at dept stores / walmart etc. anything with a barcode, and eventually you would buy in bulk after u found wat works for you.

    hell a couple girls i know on my pagan website make a good living making custom jewelry on epsy.com i think its called. this is basically just beads and junk, they get to be creative and charge out the ass.

    just saying as a camgirl you have freedom the 9 - 5ers dont have, time to explore other avenues, and slowly work ur way up!!

    as far as ur taxes go, dont forget to write off basically everything u buy for yourself over the year. anything you can use in a show or video can be written off... that helped me with a lot of what i owed last year.

    ull get thru this slump! <3
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    Welcome back, cyberstripper! I'm sorry to hear you're having a hard time. You are definitely not alone in that. I was just hired at a "regular" job that I'll be starting soon, now that they finally have all my required paperwork. It's because I need to be able to have guaranteed earnings...as opposed to being on cam for hours and winding up with chump change.

    Also, check out http://ratracerebellion.com/, http://realwaystoearnmoneyonline.com/, and http://hip2save.com/2014/03/06/work-...portunities-2/ for several options.
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    I've been in debt with the irs so I know how you feel. It is daunting and I understand the feeling of not wanting to work because you feel all your money is going to tax debt and you feel next year it will turn into a cycle.
    If you haven't been to an irs office you really need to go. You need to talk to an agent and et a payment plan started if you haven't and to know what kind of interest and pentalties you are racking up. Even if you have a huge sum of debt you can get a payment plan up to 60 month which can make a huge sum into very small monthly amounts... Of course the faster u pay it the less interest you'll pay over the long run but even if you do a long plan and can pay extra whenevr you have extra money they will accept it.
    Like you said there are options, I panicked for a long time and one day I went to the irs office, sat down face to face and made a plan and it felt like 100 pounds was lifted off my shoulders so just breathe, figure out a plan and relax.

    If you start camming again yes it will suck bc you will basically be paying double taxes until your debt is gone but you just need to focus on work work work, save save save. Record all your cam shows and edit what you can into clips. Make clips and sell them on every content site you can sign up for... Split cam. Work smarter not harder.

    As far as non camming money options quick... I would not recommend selling on amazon.... It is not simple, I sell on amazon and trust me it is more saturated than camming and you need big money to invest in inventory to provide a decent income plus it is basically running a full retail shop and a tax nightmare. I don't mean to be negative but I've seen people lose money trying to jump into fba bc yes, it looks easy.

    I would however recommend ebay for selling anything you have laying around to pay off debt quicker unlike amazon, ebay is great for non professional sellers who need To sell "things" and not inventory and easy to use/get started

    Also mturk.com can be okay for extra money search for reddit hwtf for good paying jobs on mturk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbeth View Post
    I've been in debt with the irs so I know how you feel. It is daunting and I understand the feeling of not wanting to work because you feel all your money is going to tax debt and you feel next year it will turn into a cycle.
    If you haven't been to an irs office you really need to go. You need to talk to an agent and et a payment plan started if you haven't and to know what kind of interest and pentalties you are racking up. Even if you have a huge sum of debt you can get a payment plan up to 60 month which can make a huge sum into very small monthly amounts... Of course the faster u pay it the less interest you'll pay over the long run but even if you do a long plan and can pay extra whenevr you have extra money they will accept it.
    Like you said there are options, I panicked for a long time and one day I went to the irs office, sat down face to face and made a plan and it felt like 100 pounds was lifted off my shoulders so just breathe, figure out a plan and relax.

    If you start camming again yes it will suck bc you will basically be paying double taxes until your debt is gone but you just need to focus on work work work, save save save. Record all your cam shows and edit what you can into clips. Make clips and sell them on every content site you can sign up for... Split cam. Work smarter not harder.

    As far as non camming money options quick... I would not recommend selling on amazon.... It is not simple, I sell on amazon and trust me it is more saturated than camming and you need big money to invest in inventory to provide a decent income plus it is basically running a full retail shop and a tax nightmare. I don't mean to be negative but I've seen people lose money trying to jump into fba bc yes, it looks easy.

    I would however recommend ebay for selling anything you have laying around to pay off debt quicker unlike amazon, ebay is great for non professional sellers who need To sell "things" and not inventory and easy to use/get started

    Also mturk.com can be okay for extra money search for reddit hwtf for good paying jobs on mturk

    ^^ =) well my hubby does that and weve had good experiences but im sure opinions vary. definitely not quick money so to speak, and not exactly easy, but certainly no harder than camming, which isnt easy all that easy either... other than you have to get out of the house more than once a month to get ur merchandise... u work it up like anything else. but it isnt a bad way to make money. hes up to about 700$ each pay period, and if someones sick of camming but likes to work for themselves... i thought it helpful =) anyway just my two cents.
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    I had a nice reply typed out but I am rusty lol...so I lost everything I just typed.

    I thought and over thought about this and I am going to go for it and get back on cam!!!

    I have made the decision to put 50% of my earnings on the side....I will be able to first, pay my quarterly tax and second, use the remaining extra money to pay off the existing debt. It seems harsh when put like this, but even if I have a crappy week, I will survive. I pride myself on living a very frugal life and that is why I am so disappointed in myself and upset about the situation. I am currently on a payment plan with the IRS and have made my monthly payments on time every month. I have spoken with them on several occasions and the only reason why the IRS does take drastic measures is when people do not respond and/or refuse to make their monthly payment. I got into this situation because I had a family member who lost their job and I took them in. I had a few mouths to feed, rent and bills to pay, and I was not saving for taxes or saving in general. Now that my family member is back on their feet, it has been getting better.

    @laurie Yes as an employee you do pay taxes, but at the end of the year you are usually entitled to a refund. Since I owe the IRS money, they are entitled to the refund. This will pay off a chunk of the bill. I also payed in an additional amount to the IRS on the tax paperwork I filed with the employer. This will help out a lot.

    I am glad that I live in a state where there is no state income tax! Whew!!!

    @missbeth I agree 100% and I have looked into options. I am going to visit a real human being with the IRS soon. I would like to see if I can do an offer in compromise, but if I am working as an independent contractor I am not sure if it is an option for me. With an offer in compromise, the IRS assesses your situation and basically will reduce and or stop all penalties/intrest, and will keep all of your future tax refunds for up to 5 years.

    The reality is if I stick to it, keep 50% of income on side, and work hard, I can pay off the bill within a year, as well as begin my estimated quarterly payments and keep on track

    It will be worth it in the long run and I will sleep at night.

    I would really like to put more effort into a C4S store, and during my last year of camming, I did really well with affiliate sales. I was making a steady $150 a week from my cammodels link alone. I used to be an independent cammer, so I had a huge client list. I referred all of them to my cammodels, and saw so much potential. I am hoping that SM will reactivate my old account, it would really suck if I signed up again and lost all of my affiliate sales. We will see what happens with this.

    I am a very crafty girl also. One of my pipe dreams is to one day own a home based up-cycling and crafting business. My latest obsession has been turning old sheets into beautiful, hand woven rag rugs. I should weave on cam but I am sure they would not appreciate my art unless I was doing it with my mouth full of dick, one in pussy, one in ass while I spin bb, pull my panties to the side, twirl my hair around and moan their name lol.

    A more realistic goal is to purchase a spray tanning machine and start up a mobile business. There are a lot of competitors here but I do not want to make thousands. I just want to make a decent living and be able to save. Thing is, I do not want to live in the city forever....In the next few years I'd like to live a more rural life. I do not see country bumpkins calling me up to get one of dem spray tans. A crafting business meshes much better with my future plans. It is just hard to see any of this and make any future plans in my situation.

    I am happy to say that I am no longer working as an employee. I was not myself these past few months. Going to work for idiot sheep in micro-managed corporate america is just not for me, tis why I left society in the first place and got into camming. People say you have to be a "certain type" to get into any adult business, but I disagree, you have to be a "certain type" to work a 9-5 as an employee...the problem is is they do not even realize what is important in life. I'd rather be a cammer any day of the week and be able to spend time with my family then work 9-5 and never see the light of day or get to smell the roses.

    Now I have so much shit to do it isn't even funny! I pulled as much of my cam content down as I could, took down my site and blog, everything. Not even a tweet in sight. I have an old client list saved from my indy camming days and I am sure there are some poor souls on it wondering what happened to me. Time to get some shit done...at 3 am lol. Some things never change

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    I had a nice reply typed out but I am rusty lol...so I lost everything I just typed.

    I thought and over thought about this and I am going to go for it and get back on cam!!!

    I have made the decision to put 50% of my earnings on the side....I will be able to first, pay my quarterly tax and second, use the remaining extra money to pay off the existing debt. It seems harsh when put like this, but even if I have a crappy week, I will survive. I pride myself on living a very frugal life and that is why I am so disappointed in myself and upset about the situation. I am currently on a payment plan with the IRS and have made my monthly payments on time every month. I have spoken with them on several occasions and the only reason why the IRS does take drastic measures is when people do not respond and/or refuse to make their monthly payment. I got into this situation because I had a family member who lost their job and I took them in. I had a few mouths to feed, rent and bills to pay, and I was not saving for taxes or saving in general. Now that my family member is back on their feet, it has been getting better.

    @laurie Yes as an employee you do pay taxes, but at the end of the year you are usually entitled to a refund. Since I owe the IRS money, they are entitled to the refund. This will pay off a chunk of the bill. I also payed in an additional amount to the IRS on the tax paperwork I filed with the employer. This will help out a lot.

    I am glad that I live in a state where there is no state income tax! Whew!!!

    @missbeth I agree 100% and I have looked into options. I am going to visit a real human being with the IRS soon. I would like to see if I can do an offer in compromise, but if I am working as an independent contractor I am not sure if it is an option for me. With an offer in compromise, the IRS assesses your situation and basically will reduce and or stop all penalties/intrest, and will keep all of your future tax refunds for up to 5 years.

    The reality is if I stick to it, keep 50% of income on side, and work hard, I can pay off the bill within a year, as well as begin my estimated quarterly payments and keep on track

    It will be worth it in the long run and I will sleep at night.

    I would really like to put more effort into a C4S store, and during my last year of camming, I did really well with affiliate sales. I was making a steady $150 a week from my cammodels link alone. I used to be an independent cammer, so I had a huge client list. I referred all of them to my cammodels, and saw so much potential. I am hoping that SM will reactivate my old account, it would really suck if I signed up again and lost all of my affiliate sales. We will see what happens with this.

    I am a very crafty girl also. One of my pipe dreams is to one day own a home based up-cycling and crafting business. My latest obsession has been turning old sheets into beautiful, hand woven rag rugs. I should weave on cam but I am sure they would not appreciate my art unless I was doing it with my mouth full of dick, one in pussy, one in ass while I spin bb, pull my panties to the side, twirl my hair around and moan their name lol.

    A more realistic goal is to purchase a spray tanning machine and start up a mobile business. There are a lot of competitors here but I do not want to make thousands. I just want to make a decent living and be able to save. Thing is, I do not want to live in the city forever....In the next few years I'd like to live a more rural life. I do not see country bumpkins calling me up to get one of dem spray tans. A crafting business meshes much better with my future plans. It is just hard to see any of this and make any future plans in my situation.

    I am happy to say that I am no longer working as an employee. I was not myself these past few months. Going to work for idiot sheep in micro-managed corporate america is just not for me, tis why I left society in the first place and got into camming. People say you have to be a "certain type" to get into any adult business, but I disagree, you have to be a "certain type" to work a 9-5 as an employee...the problem is is they do not even realize what is important in life. I'd rather be a cammer any day of the week and be able to spend time with my family then work 9-5 and never see the light of day or get to smell the roses.

    Now I have so much shit to do it isn't even funny! I pulled as much of my cam content down as I could, took down my site and blog, everything. Not even a tweet in sight. I have an old client list saved from my indy camming days and I am sure there are some poor souls on it wondering what happened to me. Time to get some shit done...at 3 am lol. Some things never change

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    I am glad that I live in a state where there is no state income tax! Whew!!!

    That makes two of us lol




    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    @missbeth I agree 100% and I have looked into options. I am going to visit a real human being with the IRS soon. I would like to see if I can do an offer in compromise, but if I am working as an independent contractor I am not sure if it is an option for me. With an offer in compromise, the IRS assesses your situation and basically will reduce and or stop all penalties/intrest, and will keep all of your future tax refunds for up to 5 years.

    Trust me it is so much better talking to someone face to face opposed to those people on the phone.... Usually the offices aren't busy busy but I still recommend going early in the morning basically at open time because there will literally be no line.
    as far as the offer in compromise I ran across this http://irs.treasury.gov/oic_pre_qual...IC_Screen1.jsp I ran through the first page because I wanted to see what they wouldve said in my situation but I checked "no" for "have you made all estimate payments?" and they denied me lol :p Idk if you did but even if you didnt still talk to them about it.....the person you talk to may be able to work around it somehow...all the irs cares about is getting their money even if its only some of it.



    Quote Originally Posted by cyberstripper View Post
    I would really like to put more effort into a C4S store, and during my last year of camming, I did really well with affiliate sales. I was making a steady $150 a week from my cammodels link alone. I used to be an independent cammer, so I had a huge client list. I referred all of them to my cammodels, and saw so much potential. I am hoping that SM will reactivate my old account, it would really suck if I signed up again and lost all of my affiliate sales. We will see what happens with this.

    I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere SM can reactivate your account so good luck!
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