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    Thought this looked interesting....any thoughts?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5785442.html

    It's being funded on kick starter
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...-a-documentary

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    Quite intriguing and seems like it would be very informational. I watched the trailer as well which has me at attention - not to be a sugarbaby but to watch the experience of others and giving the ugly side of such an arrangement that would possible keep some ladies from harm.

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    Sounds interesting. I plan to watch. Hope it raises enough money. The only thing I disagree with is calling sugar sex = sex work. It's more than that or at least it's suppose to be.

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    The only thing I disagree with is calling sugar sex = sex work. It's more than that or at least it's suppose to be.
    This point has arisen in past threads ... for example

    The alternate view is that there's no true difference between sugar sex and GFE escort services ... but there is a technical difference because sugar sex inserts an extra 'layer' in the midst of the underlying business transactions which arguably 'legalizes' the resulting transactions. However, from a purely legal standpoint, the IRS disagrees ... and still officially considers any cash and other 'valuable' items obtained by a sugar baby to be 'payment for services rendered' thus taxable income.

    Perhaps what matters the most is that, from the sugar daddy's standpoint, the extra 'layer' in the midst of the underlying SD / SB business transactions serves to 'insulate' the sugar daddy from potential risks of being busted and/or suffering reputational damage via 'directly' patronizing a GFE escort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Perhaps what matters the most is that, from the sugar daddy's standpoint, the extra 'layer' in the midst of the underlying SD / SB business transactions serves to 'insulate' the sugar daddy from potential risks of being busted and/or suffering reputational damage via 'directly' patronizing a GFE escort.
    This is so true in a state close to me, Utah. The LDS Church has hijacked the legal system to the point where escorts AND men can be accused of violating prostitution laws, even with shaky evidence, or sometimes no evidence at all. By the time charges are dropped, the damage has been done and it never mattered what happened anyways....Men there are so phobic of being in trouble with the law they have walked away from private shows with me (an out of stater) just because they are nervous.

    In other words, there is plenty of good pickings in Utah for Sugar Daddies because that works so much better for guys there.

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    Thanks for cluing me into this, I'd love to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
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    The alternate view is that there's no true difference between sugar sex and GFE escort services ... but there is a technical difference because sugar sex inserts an extra 'layer' in the midst of the underlying business transactions which arguably 'legalizes' the resulting transactions. However, from a purely legal standpoint, the IRS disagrees ... and still officially considers any cash and other 'valuable' items obtained by a sugar baby to be 'payment for services rendered' thus taxable income.
    ...
    The IRS cannot consider this cash exchange both taxable income to the Baby and a taxable gift from the Daddy (I hope, as they apparently think they can do anything they wish).
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    Utah...

    Why would any sexually unrepressed continue to live in Utah? It's probably the most religiously authoritarian state in the Union, closely followed by Texas (IMO).
    Last edited by threlayer; 11-19-2014 at 09:56 AM. Reason: add word
    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

    NOTE: anything I post here, outside of a direct quote, is my opinion only, which I am entitled to. Take it for what you estimate it is worth.

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    The IRS cannot consider this cash exchange both taxable income to the Baby and a taxable gift from the Daddy (I hope
    If payments between the Daddy and SB are considered to be taxable income of the SB, then Daddy's payments are not subject to 'gift' tax since they were 'payment for services rendered', not a gift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    The alternate view is that there's no true difference between sugar sex and GFE escort services ... but there is a technical difference because sugar sex inserts an extra 'layer' in the midst of the underlying business transactions which arguably 'legalizes' the resulting transactions. However, from a purely legal standpoint, the IRS disagrees ... and still officially considers any cash and other 'valuable' items obtained by a sugar baby to be 'payment for services rendered' thus taxable income.

    Perhaps what matters the most is that, from the sugar daddy's standpoint, the extra 'layer' in the midst of the underlying SD / SB business transactions serves to 'insulate' the sugar daddy from potential risks of being busted and/or suffering reputational damage via 'directly' patronizing a GFE escort.
    THIS is exactly the question on my mind.

    "gifts" and "donations" that escorts and sugar babies receive from clients/sugar daddies are basically legal terms for purpose of avoiding trouble with the law BUT the difference means nothing to IRS and considered income.

    So only 'gifts' not considered income (in exchange for 'services rendered') is those coming from a husband going to his wife (or vice versa)
    “Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”

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    ^^^ agreed that the use of terms like 'gifts' and 'donations' have been used in an attempt to whitewash the nature of the actual 'relationship' between SD's and SB's. And indeed the IRS does not buy into that whitewash. However, much of polite society DOES buy into that whitewash, at least partially. And that arguably contributes to the increasing popularity of SD / SB arrangements.

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