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    So I logged on my private facebook this morning, and it was suspended. I have no idea how long my account was suspended because I'll check it like once a week. I like to keep a low profile on social media. They said because the name I used is a fake name and needs to be changed to my legal name or prove that name given already is my LEGAL NAME. I wish not to put my real name for obviously privacy. I literally have zero information. Only used to see my family photos and to stay in contact with high school/college friends.

    I thought nothing of it, and just changed my last name to Smith.

    Then I saw this:



    Even though this is hitting hard on the Drag community, it still effects others. Like sex workers. Some of which use facebook to advertise, sell content, and communicate with fans/customers.

    Although I do not wish to use facebook for work, I have a personal one that I wish to keep my real full name off the internet. I was effected with the policy. (If you are not familiar with Facebook's policy: https://www.facebook.com/help/112146705538576)

    Google changed their real name policy this summer. http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_te...me_policy.html

    Mentioned in the above video is a petition.
    https://www.change.org/p/facebook-al...ebook-accounts
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    Default Re: Facebook Real Name Policy: Petition!

    Indeed Google Plus as well as Facebook have begun to enforce 'real name' policy lately. See It should be pointed out that the 'backtracking' in Google's 'real name' policy still requires that the 'real name' of the account holder be verified ... with that person then allowed to ( continue to ) use a 'well established' pseudonym ( that is now completely traceable back to the 'real' person ). Facebook appears to be maintaining a position that even with verified 'real' identities, the use of 'well established' pseudonyms will not be permitted.

    Some of the rationale behind this 'real name' policy enforcement is discussed at

    (snip)"For brands, the risks were greater when nicknames were the norm. Jon C. Bidwell, Chubb's senior vice president of innovation made point in an interview how things changed when we moved from e-business to the 'mebusiness.' "The transition in power from the company and their messaging a decade ago transitioned to the consumers controlling the dialogue with the brands, as a result of social networking," he noted.Our current user-generated society "presents risk and opportunities, where brands need to mitigate the liabilities while ramping up their brand messaging," Bidwell added. When users used nicknames, they could complain and criticize with impunity where the brands were always put on the defensive. Today, real names at least allow the brand to rectify or address complaints on an equal footing with customers who are represented by their true identities. -(snip)

    ... thus the use of real names may be driven by Google / Facebook advertisers ... who wish to eliminate the possibility that their product / service / 'brand' can receive negative commentary from 'anonymous' sources


    an alternative explanation comes from . Please ignore the 'less than objective' viewpoint of the author.

    (snip)Social media's reputation for usurping the political classes means that it terrifies (most) some world leaders. That's probably the reasoning behind China's decision to pass a law mandating that users of internet-based communication services like IMs and social media must use their real name, or else. According to the state-run Xinhua News, users will now sign up to a service like WeChat, but won't gain access until they pass a background check. A spokesperson for the State Internet Information Office (SIIO) claims that "a few people" are using online chat services to spread dissent, slanders, rumors, terrorism, violence and pornography, which they claim is harming the overall health of China's (leaders) online population.

    Meanwhile, those who already have an online presence will find their access limited until they submit to this same real-name vetting process"(snip)

    ... which basically boils down to the new official Chinese legal requirement of performing 'real name' verification creating an operational problem for Google, Facebook etc. if they must treat Chinese users differently from users in other countries if they wish to avoid future threats by the Chinese gov't to cut off Google's and Facebook's access to tens of millions of Chinese 'customers'.


    Also, as briefly mentioned regarding the Chinese gov'ts reasons for mandating 'real name' verification, there is undoubtedly some behind the scenes pressure from ALL western gov'ts to reduce the ability of 'anonymous' users to communicate via social media for purposes related to terrorism ... or for that matter, any illegal activity.
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    Default Re: Facebook Real Name Policy: Petition!

    I also have a personal Facebook that I use to keep in touch with a very small circle of family and friends, and a friend of mine was recently suspended for the same reasons... I promptly changed my name to a real name. Not my real name, but a very average sounding female first ad last name. I've never used my legal name anywhere on the internet and I'm not about to start. I'd rather delete my Facebook.

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    ^^^ it remains to be seen whether or not this 'first pass' to flag obvious pseudonyms will be the full extent of such 'real name' verification efforts, or whether a 'second pass' will follow which actually backtracks to ISP's to determine 'real names' versus 'normal sounding names'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    ^^^ it remains to be seen whether or not this 'first pass' to flag obvious pseudonyms will be the full extent of such 'real name' verification efforts, or whether a 'second pass' will follow which actually backtracks to ISP's to determine 'real names' versus 'normal sounding names'.
    I doubt they will go that far. Think of how many people are using an internet connection where the ISP account is not in their name (Paid for by landlord, in spouse or room mate's name, etc.) It just seems like a lot of work and little gain for Facebook. Plus I'm sure many people (myself included) would rather just delete their Facebook entirely instead of sending in 2 piece of Government ID (which is what they want to verify you).

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    Default Re: Facebook Real Name Policy: Petition!

    ^^^ Agreed. However, doing so also removes the ability of those persons to ( continue to ) utilize social media based self-promotion 'for free'.


    It will be very interesting to see if 'real name' verification quickly spreads to other social media providers.

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    If Facebook were to enforce such a policy, it would create a big opening for another company to start a similar site that doesn't require members to use their real name.

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    It would be interesting to see Facebook reduced to what MySpace has become, in part because of ridiculous policies like this 'real name' shit. They are already bombarding us with advertising & selling our browsing history records. Push much harder & they could be replaced.
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    Default Re: Facebook Real Name Policy: Petition!

    I also lost my account for the same reasons months ago. My life has been much better since Facebook kicked me to the curb.





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    Thats why as we finally launch makeitsexy.com we are not going to be requiring real names. Pseudonyms are fine on this adult social network (conceived by one of my ATF dancer friends)...she wants to get away from facebook oppression and sell her clothing line.

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    Saw this page on why Burlesque entertainers are leaving Facebook for Ello.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/leavi...rk-ello-2014-9

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    Default Re: Facebook Real Name Policy: Petition!

    This also bugs me because there are people out there who choose not to use their real names for safety reasons, like in the case of victims of abuse who would rather not be found.

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    Default Re: Facebook Real Name Policy: Petition!

    I have always thought someone would have to be a complete idiot to put his real name on the internet.

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    Default Re: Facebook Real Name Policy: Petition!

    Have a realname FB page with very little on it; THEN make an organization page where you do your thing with your stage name or business name. Just make sure you post with the organization page name. FB knows the linkage, but people visiting your organization page will not (I believe). Check this out first.
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    Default Re: Facebook Real Name Policy: Petition!

    The problem with that is you could accidentally post on your personal account. My understanding with facebook is that an organization page is tied to a personal page.

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    The thing that is awesome with the internet is anonymity. Polices like this takes that away. We should be able to choose whether or not we want to put our real name on the internet. Ive actually successfully have taken my name off the internet where I can find it. This includes whitepages, the voter registry, and any newspaper I was in for whatever highschool sport that is posted online. I'm so glad my mother didn't consent to me being used for any school promotional video. (My highschool had their own dog and pony catholic public tv show)





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    Facebook doesnt care about petitions. He has like 40 billion why would he care about you?
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    Actually, I have all of my phone sex personas on facebook. However, they always have "real" names and " real" backstories so facebook would not get their panties in a twist. Some of my Burlesque and Niteflirt friends actually renamed themselves on facebook in order to keep their profiles. Strange fact...facebook will let you keep your facebook profile if you have an avatar on Second Life or IMVU. Gamers on Second Life or IMVU used facebook to speak with each other. Often their names are fake as hell but facebook does not mind.Many virtual sexworkers from Second Life such as virtual findoms and dommes did have some minor problems with names but it work itself out . I believe phone sex operators and virtual sexworkers from Second Life do not have it as bad as cam models or strippers when it comes to the real name thing. However, if strippers and cam models have an virtual avatar then they can get around this stupid name thing.

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    A couple of years ago they hassled my dd about this. She has a last name that sounds like a girl's first name. Let's say it's Kelly. And of course her first name also sounds like a girl's first name. (because it is) Let's say it's Jade. So, facebook suspended her account a couple of years ago because she had "two first names" as her name. So then she changed it to "Kelly Kelly" and they accepted it. She did eventually change it back to "Jade Kelly" and they haven't bothered her about it since, but the whole thing seemed pretty ridiculous to me.

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    FB suspended me last year after I pissed someone off who made a nasty comment on a business page. She told everyone who disagreed with her that she was gonna get us all kicked off FB and reported every one of us for not being a "real person". Of course we all are real people and that lasted a whopping day. The point is that generally they don't just grab names, people report profiles for whatever reason. FB doesn't want people to have profiles for their "work names" they want you to have like pages. Like pages can be charged to promote their posts or their reach is compromised. Regular posts from profiles don't go through that BS. If somebody friends and follows you they get your profile posts. Post on like pages are only sent to a % of the people who like the page. It's how their making more money. Like those ad's they sell that sit on the sidebar and are seen by billions of people don't bring in enough money! Ugh.....whole thing pisses me off. I've been fighting with my page reach for a year now.

    Anyway, that's their 'out'. Profiles are for real names only, pages can be for another persona. Sucks, but I can't see them having the motivation to change it.

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