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    For the most part, our club is relatively clean. Dances get a little bumpy and grindy but two feet on floor and no straddling etc. For whatever reason a small group of new dancers came in, and don't follow the two inch thong rule, two panty rule, and do straight up nasty crap onstage. They are also the type to brag about ALL the money they're making. I walked by one dance, and saw one of the girls giving the customer a hj outside the pants.

    Im frustrated because I don't want customers to think the normal dancers will compete with dirty dancers. It's like they've set the bar for how nasty things can get. I hope they don't last but for now I gotta pretend I don't see the nastyness I see. I should mind my own and usually do but its aggravating because its an entire group. Coincidentally there are also more pimps. Can't prove they are pimps but I have been dancing long enough to know them when I see them.

    Luckily most aren't attractive at all (step yo game up pimp lol) but it's still annoying. I banked Saturday night and I was sick of hearing dirty girl brag. She asked how I was doing, I usually say ok or so-so even though I am doing well. I said,"kinda bummed. Not doing well." I then proceeded to count 635$ I had gotten out of one customer and sighed as if sad and walked away.

    In reality I went to the restroom to thank god for my good customer and went back to work lol

    Mostly ranting sorry ladies.

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    Default Re: flock of new dirty dancers at club

    Lol why do you say luckily the pimps aren't attractive? Did I miss something or are you insatiable when it comes to sexy pimpin?

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    Default Re: flock of new dirty dancers at club

    No, the dirty dancers aren't attractive.

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    Default Re: flock of new dirty dancers at club

    Of course they're not. They've got to compensate somehow. Just be thankful it's a fugly doing extras and not a hot girl. That's one battle you can't win.
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    Default Re: flock of new dirty dancers at club

    I've never seen the extras girls as competition mainly because if they are doing extras ITC as opposed to OTC, it's probably because they have a scarcity mindset and no one with that kind of mindset will ever make more money than someone with a success mindset. Especially in the long run.

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    I've never seen a hot girl giving b jobs out at the club. I was always under the impression the uglier the stripper, the nastier she will get in VIP..how else would they make their $

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    Default Re: flock of new dirty dancers at club

    ^not anymore..some of the most attractive girls are my club are the dirtiest. you just hope they aren't working when you're scheduled

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    Sorry that's happening. I have to say that if you're still making money, just ignore what's going on for now. I'm a non prostitute dancer in a heavy extras club and while I occasionally lose out on customers due to that, I'm still earning quite a bit. It's irritating when that happens but it's getting hard to avoid :/
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    Default Re: flock of new dirty dancers at club

    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    ^not anymore..some of the most attractive girls are my club are the dirtiest. you just hope they aren't working when you're scheduled
    Yep, same case in mine. It's the young hot ones that feel the need to offer more than everyone else! They would still totally make money not being dirty, but I guess they don't think that's the case.

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    I feel like young new dancers end up in that situation a lot of the time not because they desire it but because they feel pressured, or like doing extras is just the way it is. Customers love new girls because they want to see how far they can go, and while a more experienced woman can tell him to fuck off, a fresh dancer might just think that's how private rooms are supposed to go, due to lack of prior knowledge. That lack of knowledge is furthered in the abundance of cases where other girls refuse to interact with new dancers, thereby limiting their resources for learning how to do business. I do sympathize with that. I really believe that's why we see so many young girls who could otherwise make money not doing extras, doing extras...
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    This isn't new. In 1994 I danced at this club where it was clean, open private dance area (no VIP)and the girls were everything from cute to knock down gorgeous. Suddenly the club had competition and decided instead of them doing anything they would hire anything that walked in the door because more girls=more house fees. This club was on a street notorious for prostitutes so they ended up working in the club. Because they were trashy (they were streetwalkers with pimps)they ended up scaring away the decent customers and you can imagine what was next: men just looking for sex. The owners looked the other way (I later found out they got a cut for pimping these women). I quit because the money dried up for clean dancers and I left later than most of the clean dancers because for awhile several of my decent customers came in because I was there. Eventually they got scared and stopped coming in. The club was closed and never reopened and is now a restaurant I believe. The club that was the competition as far as I know is still there but has changed owners and names through the years and is part of a chain I believe.

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    I have worked in a club notorious for extras and although I still did well it was just too mentally exhausting. I was so happy at my current club because its not a high extras. Actually I am pretty confident saying most girls don't offer any, with the s exception of the nubies like kelly said.

    Im sure these girls are real street walkers too. = /

    I shouldn't even be giving this subject as much energy as I am but now im actually dreading going into work when im usually excited about "all the money just waiting for me"

    One of my old roommates friends went into my old club, got a vip from a drop dead gorgeous girl, vs looking, not as pretty but flawless body. He told me he paid her 300$ for sex, with a condom. I couldn't believe my ears, it was then when I knew that even hot model looking girls offer sex for money. The club took 100/300 that means she had sex for 200$ barf

    He also said it was really good sex cuz she was so hot and that her coochie was very stinky, he's like it was weird, im going home to shower lol

    Im probably also pmsing

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    ^Oh damn. Just focus on you for now. And pray the hot blonde doesn't migrate over there.
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    Default Re: flock of new dirty dancers at club

    some of the most attractive girls are my club are the dirtiest.
    young new dancers end up in that situation a lot of the time not because they desire it but because they feel pressured, or like doing extras is just the way it is
    they ended up scaring away the decent customers and you can imagine what was next: men just looking for sex.
    The owners looked the other way
    This is the usual progression ... which has actually been going on for years, but has accelerated lately due to the poor economy ...

    Some number of girls find themselves in serious need of money, and have no problem offering 'extras' to earn it. Some number of customers expect major 'bang for their buck'. Some number of clubowners want / need to earn higher club 'profits'.

    Putting those three factors together creates a potential 'snowball' situation where dancers offering 'extras' increasingly becomes the norm in a given club, where the club customer demographic shifts towards guys who expect 'extras', and where clubowners realize that tacitly approving of 'extras' means higher club profits in exchange for near zero risk to the club itself.

    This arguably creates a 'triple whammy' situation for 'clean' dancers in that club, since the increasing presence of 'extras' A. discourages the type of customers who were willing to spend money without an expectation of 'extras' from returning to the club, as well as B. causing clubowners to realize that 'clean' dancers aren't generating anywhere near as much profit for the club as the 'extras' girls are, and also C. exposing the 'clean' dancers to increasing risk of a bogus bust.

    At one point fairly early in my dancing career, this 'snowball' situation began to gain momentum at a small club near where I was living at the time. There were a group of about 8 'clean' dancers ( including myself ), who were able to quickly put a 'cause and effect' relationship together when the clubowner hired a couple of new dancers who had worked for a club in an adjacent city ... i.e. our average earnings dropped noticeably, while the two new dancers were constantly in the VIP room. After confirming the fact that these two girls were providing 'extras', we approached the clubowner as a group ... stating that we weren't going to continue to work at this club unless the clubowner fired the two 'extras' girls and cleaned up the club's act.

    After walking off for about 30 seconds, the clubowner came back over and told all 8 of us to 'pack our bags'. He then immediately made a phone call. By the time we had changed and were 'cashing out' a half dozen new dancers began arriving at the club from the same club in the nearby city the two 'extras' girls had originally come from. The 8 of us wound up 'out of a job', with most of us able to get hired at other ( cleaner ) clubs in nearby cities. We ran into a few former customers from the small club, who had stopped patronizing the small club due to the degree of 'extras'. We also saw local news blurbs that the club was being busted occasionally.

    However, in the final analysis, the owner of the small club was soon driving a Porsche. And running into one of the original small club 'extras' girls several years later ( at an upscale social event ), she was quick to point out that once a girl has a sex related misdemeanor charge on her record, having 2 or more sex related misdemeanor charges doesn't make a speck of 'real world' difference ... but that the vastly higher earnings potential between busts fattens the bank account tremendously.

    At that time, we 'clean' dancers were lucky in that there were still enough 'clean' clubs in business within an hour's drive to allow us to continue to work and earn reasonable money as 'clean' dancers. However, with today's poor economy, the number of 'clean' clubs that can still afford to operate 'in the black' without the additional club income provided by 'extras' is definitely shrinking.
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    Default Re: flock of new dirty dancers at club

    We have a few dirty girls at my club and we're doing everything we can to force them out. If the club is slow, we occupy every single customer, leaving them nobody to hustle. They get busted for every single infraction, costing them a lot of money in fines. We also talk general shit about dirty girls, so that when one of them propositions him, he has very negative ideas about them.

    So far, its working. One can't get a dance to save her life. The other is paying out so much in fines that she's making a fraction of what she used to. If they can't make money here, they will go somewhere more hospitable, hopefully sooner rather than later.

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