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    Someone broke into my house Saturday night and I'm having a hard time dealing with it. I can't sleep, am paranoid, and am consider moving. I wasn't home when it happened, and I am SO terrified the person might return when I am home. I am also scared the person who did this could be a sex predator or have been watching me.
    Has anyone else had this happen to them? How did you deal with it?

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    if you are allowed to have an animal, a guard dog will be a great deterrent to someone doing this again.
    akitas are intelligent and super loyal to owners, but hate everyone else usually. i would go with a german shepard, though.

    Security cameras are very cheap nowadays. you can have it hooked up to to a computer at home and have it upload images to a server when it detects movements. or even record video.
    have adequate lighting outside your house. trim back bushes.

    be aware of your environment:
    watch your neighbors and their visitors. sometimes they are the people who are doing this.
    watch your neighborhood. is there someone knocking on doors pretending to sells something or collect information? this is how they case houses nowadays.
    look outside for people in cars.

    if you were an easy mark, they might come back at least one more time.
    if they came in through a window, nail down your windows if you don't open them often. you can even drill a hole into the window's frame on each side and slide a finishing nail or rivet into the hole as added protection.

    replace the locks.

    don't be scared, be angry and be smart
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    I'm sorry this happened to you! Did they steal anything or mess up your place? Do you know how they got in? My house got broken into a couple of years ago and it really scared me too. I had the same kind of freaked out/paranoid thoughts as you are having, but he never came back.

    If you can have one, a dog is great peace of mind. I won't go into how awesome I think dogs are, I'll just say that I sleep a lot easier knowing my little pups will let me know if someone is trying to get in way before I will hear it. Even though, at 12 pounds each, they won't be taking down any intruders, they will make enough noise to wake everyone up.

    Also check out all of your windows and doors and get better locks and stuff. Maybe even get bars for your windows if you're on the first floor. If you rent, maybe your landlord would help you pay for that.

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    Good advice here.

    Hopefully you have filed a police report -- regardless of anything being taken, & mentioned your fears of a sex predator being involved. Also let them know you fear being followed. They won't know to check the area more frequently if you don't tell them. Let your neighbours know, so they can not only hopefully keep half an eye on your place but can guard their homes as well, it's possible you were just an opportunity rather than specifically targeted.

    Consider your floorplan. My apt several yrs ago had a small, narrow entryway -- exactly big enough to put the ironing board(which had jammed in the open position) between the door & the opposite wall. You couldn't open that door a quarter-inch once the ironing board was placed. Does your floorplan allow for any of your doors or windows to be barricaded in such a way? You might have to get creative but this is another consideration.

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    My parents had a break in late last night, no one was home thankfully but lots of stuff was taken. And a neighbor up the street was robbed at gunpoint a week earlier. I don't live with them anymore but it was enough to rattle me up and I'm still dealing with PTSD, so even hearing about this kind of thing spikes my anxiety.

    Dogs are good alarm systems, but don't expect it to protect you and your home unless it's specifically trained for that - and those dogs will run you 10K+. Family pets are socialized and will bark in alarm but slim chance of attacking an intruder, and most robbers know this, so they could just lock the dog back up, scare it or worse, hurt and/or kill it because it's just standing around barking and the burglar wants to get rid of the noise.

    I remember watching 'It Takes A Thief' the guy dropped dog biscuits on the ground and the dog didn't care much after that. Or the doberman who ran and hid in a laundry room. Your pet will have maybe a 10% chance of defending you, but if you want/need something that will defend your property, you, knows how to take down an intruder and hold him on the ground, knows the difference from an attacker and a friendly, etc, etc - get a trained personal protection dog.

    I'm getting a security system when I move, and I'd suggest that. Get a sticker of a different alarm company (you can buy them on eBay), stick it on your door/yard/windows so then the person won't know what alarm system you have and if he does decide to break in regardless he won't know how to disarm it right away.

    Live in an apartment complex, preferably on the top floor or where you need an access key to get in.
    Always leave your patio/porch lights on outside at night.
    When you're gone leave your tv or radio on, and a light. Or buy a FakeTV light box.
    Keep your blinds closed when you leave.
    Or buy window film covers, like these (http://www.amazon.com/Etched-Glass-W...ow+film+covers)
    Don't invite or keep sketchy friends around or in your house.
    Don't brag to people about the newest Coach bag you bought or flaunt your new iPad on Facebook. Be private about your money and purchases.
    Put your valuables in a safe and bolt it to the wall, or get a very heavy one that a criminal would need a dolly or something to carry out.
    Never answer the door unless you know who it is, or have a chain bolt on it and crack it if you do.
    Get door window locks, wooden dole in the window/sliding door tracks. Or get window lock pins.


    Above all I think a security system with a LOUD alarm will be your best bet. Robbers want to get in and out quickly and quietly and not deal with anything extra. Having the annoyance of a barking dog, or alarm system will be more of a fuss than they want to deal with and they will move on to a neighbor who has an easier house.

    But that said, if someone wants in, they'll get in if they're bent on it. But unless you have golden bricks laying around your living room near a window I doubt they'll chance it if you're secure enough. Home invasion are a different type of person completely.

    I've always slept with a buddybar. It's a steel jack that you prop up against the door and strong enough it will jack up your car. NO ONE will get through the door unless they are Jack Nicholson with an axe. http://www.amazon.com/Buddybar-10311...ar+door+jammer







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    Don't brag to people about the newest Coach bag you bought or flaunt your new iPad on Facebook. Be private about your money and purchases.
    ^^^ statistically speaking, most break-ins / burglaries committed against dancers and/or camgirls stem from a friend, acquaintance, or even family member who A. knows that the dancer / camgirl is likely to have high income ( thus big payoff ), and B. knows the basic routine of that dancer / camgirl i.e. times when she is not likely to be 'home' ( thus low odds of being caught ).

    If this provides any reassurance, if the 'perp's intention was something besides burglary, there isn't any logical reason to explain breaking into your house while you weren't present.

    In regard to police reports, that's a mixed blessing. On the one hand it officially places the break-in on record, and MAY increase LE attention for a little while. On the other hand, it will lead to '20 questions' ... what do you do for a living ? where do you work ? How much do you earn ? What are the names of friends and acquaintances who have visited your house ? This might result in YOU drawing more LE attention than the 'perp'.

    It's also a reasonable speculation that friends, acquaintances, family members etc. who suspect that some of your income is 'under the table' will also assume a reluctance to file a police report ( which officially admits the existence of 'under the table' income ). Granted that this is less of a risk factor in states like Texas which do not have their own state version of the IRS.


    Put your valuables in a safe and bolt it to the wall, or get a very heavy one that a criminal would need a dolly or something to carry out.
    I've posted in other threads about my use of two safes to minimize burglary losses. I have an 'el-cheapo' WalMart safe in a semi-hidden location in which I keep a couple of hundred dollars max. I also have a top quality wall safe in a well hidden location in which I keep serious money and other valuables. Based on the principle that any burglar wants / needs to get in and out as quickly as possible, there's a 99.9% probability that any burglar will focus on the WalMart safe and the $200 ... and not even consider the possibility that a second safe exists.

    In regard to locks, alarm systems, guard dogs etc., in the final analysis all this does is send a message to would-be burglars that the particular location has 'something worth stealing'. The same final analysis reveals that, even if an alarm is set off and LE is notified, it is still going to take LE longer to get there than it will take the 'perp' to get in and get out. In many jurisdictions with reduced LE budgets these days, a 'property' crime is going to receive far lower priority than a 'violent' crime ... meaning that it could be hours before LE actually shows up on the scene.

    There are also a lot of 'desparate' people out there these days. Thus creating a scenario that could lead to a 'confrontation' with a 'perp' is potentially dangerous. Put another way, if a loud alarm goes off and well-intentioned neighbors wind up 'confrontihg' a burglar while you aren't home, those neighbors could potentially be put at risk of physical harm. Keep in mind that, in Texas in particular, there are lots of illegal immigrants wandering around who have a record of violent crimes.

    In regard to options, there are really two different approaches. One is to live in an upscale area of a city where a very high LE presence is well known. Another is to maintain a 'low profile' lifestyle where your house / apartment, your car, your personal wardrobe etc. don't send the message 'I have s#!tloads of money'.
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    Thanks you guys. I did call 911 the second I saw what had happened. The cops were nice and helpful. They actually told me there has been several break ins lately in the area I live in. I don't think it was someone I know. I am VERY selective about who I befriend, and I'm honestly kind of a hermit when I'm not working. My world is small. Everyone else who lives on my street are either retired people, or families.

    I've had a few different maintenance men in my house lately. One in particular gave me bad vibes. He commented on some of my electronics and how I was "lucky" to live in the neighborhood I live in. I could tell he was kind of scoping my place out too

    I have two little dogs, and three dogs would be a lot, but I really would like more protection. My little Dachshund is more like a cat anyway.

    I am going to call a security company today and have them stop by asses what locks and video stuff I could get. Even if the guy doesn't come back, it would still be good to have. Its obvious the person got in through a basement window, and one of my neighbors helped me secure it more than it had been.
    Thank you guys for your advice and support!

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    I didn't mention this since you said you live in a house, but Hayden made another very good point -- apts off the ground floor statistically have a MUCH lower rate of being broken into, just bc of the increased difficulty of an 'in & out' hit. For this reason, except for my first apt (idiot bf of the time refused to hold out for an upper floor or move when one was available) I have always gotten an upper-floor unit. Granted, the apt whose door I barricaded w/ the ironing board was a 2nd-floor unit, but when you find yourself w/ such a serendipitous setup(unintended but perfect blocking object + the perfect place to utilise it) you can't not take advantage of it, esp in our line of work. In almost 10yrs of apt living, the only time I was ever truly fk'd w/ was when I was in a ground-floor unit.

    Idk what your neighbourhood is like, tho I admit I am a bit curious just bc I used to live in TX. Like I said, it's possible your place just 'seemed like a good idea at the time' rather than having been specifically targeted. In any case, maybe a condo would be a more secure option?

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    I agree with you. What had happened was, when my husband and I moved to this state, we started renting this house. I always preferred apartments because of amenities, living in a gated community, etc, but he really wanted a house. We got a divorce last fall, and I just stayed in the house and he moved out. Maybe it would be better for me to get a condo or apartment...

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    Sorry to hear

    Well, in a perverse way, the other break ins are good news, Local kid has a drug problem. Probably just after stuff to sell

    standalone video surveillance eq is cheap[200 bucks] and maybe even networkable, so you could check on the dogs from your phone at work

    As far as safety, the biggest factor is not house vs apartment or what floor you are on, but what zip code that floor is in.

    Crime rates vary widely town to town, block to block even. If you decide to move, do your research as there are many web tools to determine how safe a given place is.

    Your concerns are real and valid, but do not let them get a hold of you

    And while having a big strong man sleeping in your bed may have its purposes, having a 100 pound dog sleeping in your bed is more likely to scare away burglars!

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    I'm really sorry all this happened, glad no family members or pets were hurt.
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    I'm surprised no one mentioned getting a gun. Buy a gun and take lessons. That way if it happens aim. Cops often won't do anything and in many areas illegals are causing trouble because they know they probably won't get caught.

    I'm glad you're safe.

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    Oldster, it's kind of ironic this happened because one of the original reasons we moved in this house a few years ago was because this particular area has a much lower crime rate than other parts of the city.
    My son is 7 and plays outside with his friends all the time and nothing remotely bad has ever happened. We even have neighborhood BBQs and stuff.
    All these things are really starting to make me thing it was someone who has been in my house, like a service man. It's pretty clear whoever it was was familiar with the layout.

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    It happened to me, & I felt very violated.
    I'm so sorry this happened to you.


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    Did you go see the dog?

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    Either way it should make a nice pet. If it alerts you to strangers, that's a plus

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    I'm late to this party, but got the link for it from another thread. Are there any updates?

    Zipcodes mean nada in the long run. Lower rates will never assure a lack of being affected. I've lived in high crime rate areas with no problem, despite bringing lots of people we knew very little about into our home and rarely locking our doors. My family lives in a very low crime rate area and are very selective about who is even allowed on our property (much less in our homes), yet they have experienced being burglarized. In fact, the most affluent community in my hometown has a triple layer of LE (county, city, and community departments) but experiences some of the highest rates of vandalism, property damage, and attempted break ins.

    Make sure your windows and doors are properly secured. A favorite method for me is to drill holes in the window frame, either at a height where the window cannot open and/or where it can be partially opened but too small for a person to fit through, and insert dowels. It has the same effect as nailing/screwing windows shut, but is safer if you ever need to make an exit. Not easily done in a rental unless you know how to patch the holes, though. Others have already mentioned dowels in the tracks.

    Adequate outdoor lighting is huge. I 100% recommend motion activated lights. A lot of your common thieves will get scared off by a light suddenly coming on, even if they don't do much on their own for experienced burglars. They're not very expensive these days and require little to no wiring, so ask your landlord to put some up or permission to do so yourself. Most won't mind since it minimizes damage to their property and may even discount your rent for the cost if you purchase and put them up yourself.

    Keep shrubs away from the house so there's no hiding places. If you do keep shrubs around the house, keep them very sparsely trimmed or of a thorny variety.

    I've always advocated only turning porch lights on if you need to and turning them off when you go to bed unless you have a reason to leave them on, like a roommate staying out until after you go to bed. Always make sure they're off in the day - having one that is on a timer or uses remote on/off is the way to go if you're going to be out of town. A lot of burglars see right through the porch light trick.

    On the note of being out of town, put a hold on your mail when you're out of town.

    You don't need a large dog unless that makes you feel better. What you need is a LOUD dog who will get your or a neighbor's attention. Most burglaries are skittish smash-and-grab situations where the average thief will run off if a dog loses its shit. Another option I've heard of, but don't know exactly how you'd set it up, is to keeping a recording of a barking/growling dog that plays if a sensor is tripped. There's nothing scarier than a vicious sounding dog you can't see!

    Definitely use a LOUD alarm, and never with the sticker for the one you actually use. Alarm systems have a small gap between the actual break in and the alert being sent out. Some experienced burglars know how to prevent the alarm from going off during that gap or shut down the system entirely - don't give them an advantage by telling them which system they're dealing with. If a loud alarm goes off and it doesn't immediately scare a burglar off, the countdown has begun. Even the most experienced burglars will grab the easiest scores before ghosting because, while it may take cops 15 minutes to respond, it only takes neighbors a couple before they get curious/irate about the noise. I personally plan to use a wireless system that sends both a line and cellular alert once I'm in my own place.

    Home surveillance is cheap these days. It may not prevent a burglary, but it'll help a great deal if you do experience a break in. A lot of experienced burglars don't hide their faces because a mask would be suspicious to potential witnesses - you stand the chance of catching their face on camera. It will also help aid you in determining what all was stolen and directing officers to things the burglar touched. A combination convenience (in case someone comes by when you're not home,) surveillance, and home invasion awareness tool much safer than a chain lock is peephole cams.

    A tactic that some people use is to leave smaller "valuables" and little bits of cash in plain sight and/or the usually suspected places for stashing valuables. Unless you're dealing with a very skilled burglar, which is extremely rare, they're going to be in a hurry to get what they can carry and get out. These easy scores are usually a great distraction from larger ticket items. Keep real valuables in hidden safes (like a soda can safe hidden under real sodas or a cleaner safe hidden among other household cleaners) or a sturdier safe bolted to the wall studs and/or floor joists.

    I'm definitely in the "get a gun" camp. Learn to use it and preferably get your CCL. This is more of a self defense thing, which is differently from burglary, but it can give you peace of mind to know that you can defend yourself in case of home invasion or an intended burglary turned robbery.
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    A tactic that some people use is to leave smaller "valuables" and little bits of cash in plain sight and/or the usually suspected places for stashing valuables. Unless you're dealing with a very skilled burglar, which is extremely rare, they're going to be in a hurry to get what they can carry and get out. These easy scores are usually a great distraction from larger ticket items. Keep real valuables in hidden safes (like a soda can safe hidden under real sodas or a cleaner safe hidden among other household cleaners) or a sturdier safe bolted to the wall studs and/or floor joists.
    I can also vouch for this. As mentioned earlier, the #1 objective of any burglar is to get away quickly with 'something' before LE shows up. This is the reason I bought a $100 el-cheapo WalMart safe which I placed on the floor in a not to hard to find location, but also purchased a $500 'serious' wall safe which I placed in a well hidden location and bolted to the wall studs. The WalMart safe is guaranteed to attract the burglar's attention ... and will hopefully provide the 'something' which will get the burglar to leave without wrecking other stuff in the house or looking for / discovering my second wall safe.

    The reason that I keep somewhere around $200 in my WalMart safe is to deflect attention in case of a robbery. If the robber attempts to force me to open the WalMart safe, I'll gladly do so ... and hand over the cash envelope it contains with around $200 in it. If the robber starts asking questions why there wasn't more money ... hey, I just recently made a cash bank deposit. IMHO losing $200 to a robber or $200 plus my WalMart safe to a burglar is 'cheap insurance' that my second safe and its far more valuable contents will never enter the 'perp's mind, let alone be discovered.

    In regard to 'diversion' safes ... i.e. hollow aerosol hairspray can, water bottle with removable bottom, etc. ... I use these during 'road trips'. I don't use them at home, instead opting for the el-cheapo WalMart safe. The reason, of course, is that the 'diversion' safes leave a burglar in a position of still needing to find 'something' worth stealing ... meaning that your home may be ripped up in his attempt to find 'something'.

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    I agree totally, Melonie. I think we slightly got our wires crossed on the diversion safe thing, though. I don't mean you should use them in lieu of a calculated loss. I just meant that they're a viable alternative for where you keep your REAL stash.
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    I want to re-state the importance of being secretive about having money and valuables. Often it's someone who knows you who is going to break in and take your things- they know where the things are located & they know your schedule. There is an upswing in burglaries in my area due to a regional economic downturn so "stranger danger" still applies......But in my lifetime, I have more often seen neighbors and "friends" take advantage of situations.

    Another mega fun pro-tip - plant rosebushes and cactus under your windows. I just personally like them, but they do make crawling through windows a less-appealing idea.

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