Who wins in a match Chuck Liddell or Mayweather? I mean an MMA guy has a lot of tools but maybe it wouldn't matter against a fast boxer like Mayweather or Pacquiao?





Who wins in a match Chuck Liddell or Mayweather? I mean an MMA guy has a lot of tools but maybe it wouldn't matter against a fast boxer like Mayweather or Pacquiao?
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I have had this discussion w/ my recent ex, since altho we both have a martial arts background, I stuck w/ that while he is a boxer & a diehard Paquiao fan. I favour martial arts bc, like you said -- more options, & the fight is not determined just by the speed & power of the hits. But I did understand his position once he explained it to me -- the tighter limits on technique actually develop a different skill set. So altho I prefer MMA I can't not-respect boxing.
Take a (imaginary!) fight between myself & him. We are the same hgt, but I have a slight, athletic build while he is built like a tank & has +/-40lbs on me. He gets his arms around me, I'm done, but he has his work cut out for him doing it bc I am more agile. I have a hard time taking him down bc he is so solidly built, so I rely on joint locks to manœuvre him, while keeping the pressure on HARD bc he is very strong. But to take him down in a boxing fight would be a whole other animal. I can't hope to match his strength (& can't take his knees out from under him) so I would have to rely on speed, volume, speed & more speed.



In a fight as in a street fight? MMA? Boxing?
Outside of a boxing match....Chuck.
Source: I teach brasilian jiu jitsu, done muay thai for 10 years, and my boxing coach has worked with the Money team.


There have been boxers who have tried to cross over. If they can keep the fight standing up and learn some defense they can do alright, but it is against their nature. An MMA fighter has so many other options and tools. And they have trained in a variety of attacks compared to the boxer.
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I wonder why there seems to be resistance from the mainstream like HBO to cover MMA as closely as the cover and exalt boxing. MMA in my opinion is more fascinating because they have so many styles combined. Boxing seems more about engage - break -engage. MMA seems like level of engagement like engage - hold - engage HARDER. It's like watching a python circle then twist, then squeeze, then devour!It's easier to see in that boxing is so fast you have to slow it down to see every touch whereas MMA it's all right there to be seen. Some big controversies have come up because boxing judges disagree on the amount on touches they've seen! It's not always such a definitive victory.
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HBO has been covering boxing for so long at this point it's a flagship program. They have the crew and production on lock. It took the UFC years to get a mainstream network in FOX after many many breakdowns in negotiation with other channels. They're still figuring it out. Mayweather left HBO productions for Showtime (Which used to promote MMA along side with Boxing till Strikeforce/Elite XC fall apart) as well. The problem with MMA is it's basically a monopoly. There's other brands like Bellator, but it's seen as a stepping stone. Asia still has options as well but after Pride collapsed because of the sketchy Yakuza ties and UFC merger, the UFC has had little competition.
It's still a young sport. Media end has only in recent times become more professional, talent pool is good but fighters wages need increasing (A whole other subject), the head figure is...well...a douche lol, and many state commissions aren't legalized MMA yet (New York being a big one).
Combat sports are highly dependent on figures. To break into the mainstream, you need stars. Not just great fighters but marketable one's who people want to see. A lot of the big polarizing figures retired or left the UFC. Ronda is doing her thing but she isn't a flagship yet. She's breaking into the mainstream (After Gina did it years ago) but the hardcore want her to fight another women like Cris Cyborg. UFC could really benefit from a star heavyweight (Brock was that) and so could boxing.
MMA hands down would win. Chuck was primarily a striker but he had a ground game if he was taken there. A boxer would be like a fish out of water if a MMA fighter grabbed a arm or leg.



I feel like I'm back in jr high school arguing about whether Bruce Lee would take Chuck Norris (although technically, that question was answered in Return of the Dragon)
Okay, first let's not use Chuck Lidell, he's far bigger and hits far harder than anyone Mayweather has ever fought. Let's take someone closer to his size, like lightweight champ Anthony Pettis.
In a boxing match, Mayweather makes Pettis --or any MMAist -- look like a rank amateur
In a MMA match, Pettis crushes Mayweather, fast. Incredible head movement and footwork or not, even in boxing Mayweather gets stuck in close range, and from there he gets dragged to the ground.
In a bar fight (ya, okay, I said I felt like I was back in high school), if Mayweather's entourage doesn't jump in, Pettis wins 9 out of 10 times. Mayweather's footwork is negated by the tables, chair, spectators (i.e., it's like a very small ring), and Mayweather doesn't hit hard enough to keep Pettis off him. Even a Thai clinch, which MMAists get out of all the time, can be a fight ender against a boxer. Of course, the problem here is Mayweather's strengths are negated by the terrain, and his weakness (punching power) is highlighted. If you picked a different boxer who can actually knock guys out, like Marvin Hagler, might be a different story.
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Anybody want to rethink their answer after that 10th round KO? I thought that at 28 the MMA guy was a lock vs 40 yr old Mayweather. Now I see boxing is a very different animal than MMA.
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Exactly, I didn't watch it, but yea definitely 2very different sports
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Totally agree the fight sucked and TKO's are such bull. I'm a HUGE boxing fan, but tend to only follow heavyweight fights. Don't get me wrong, a solid middleweight or cruiserweight fight can be enjoyable to watch, but lighter guys tend to dance around too much. I don't watch boxing to see two dudes prancing about, I watch it for the contact. The larger dudes tend to hit hard and run around the ring less. Watching the Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson fight for the first time was what made me fall for the big guys. Rumble in the jungle is a must watch as well if you like heavyweights.
MMA is a totally different beast & definitely can be enjoyable to watch, though it's a completely different sport in my eyes. comparing the two is almost like comparing ski jumping to cross country skiing. like yes they both have skis on their feet & are insane athletes in their own right, but what they're doing is drastically different.





Tyson fight were something else, and Ali fights were off the charts. They would fight so hard you couldn't imagine how they could stand! And for 15 rounds, if I remember correctly! I knew MacGregor was in for trouble when he came out of the corner with this weird stance. He looked like a cat standing on his back paws and patting at the air! People watching at the club kind of groaned and sounded questioning. He immediately looked out of his depth. I gotta say I'm happy that they didn't let the fight go on so long that MacGregor was literally knocked out and bloody. I know MMA fans like that but I think these guys should live to fight another day and be able to use their minds into old age. What happened to boxers like Ali should never happen to them.
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I feel like boxing is more of a sport. I enjoy it more- like in basketball or hockey the athleticism comes in with the incredible cardiovascular slog you are witnessing in front of you. Boxers are tough, agile and fast.
Although as a French Canadian I obviously have huge love for GSP! What a classy guy! He used to come into the clubs but I've never danced for him because his preference is not for white girls.
In a brawl - the mma fighter wins as soon as they're on the ground. Unless the boxer gets a KO. That doesn't mean I think it's a tougher sport. Just different tools.
Why MMA is not on HBO - it's not a primarily American sport like boxing. GSP is more famous in the Philippines than Canada and the States put together. MMA is an international sport. UFC likely makes more money striking deals with every nations networks (their fox equivalent) than selling the whole pony to HBO.








I would say that in most cases, the boxer would win if he fights intelligently, unless the MMA fighter has an exceptional kick. A smart boxer going against an MMA fighter won't let the fight go to the ground. When Ronda Rousey went up against women who are very good boxers, she got knocked out both times.





Boxing or MMA the only sports I can stand watching, but I like watching both a great deal.
I kind of tend to prefer boxing since that's the kind of training (not professional) I've done. Obviously the Mayweather win would sort of indicate it's a superior skill, but it could also just be that Mayweather is a superior athlete--what if he'd started off in his career as a MMA fighter?
Wrestling is FAR better experience for bouncing work than boxing, especially if you work in a club or area where you have to be really careful about hurting the guy(s). I've had a bit of jujitsu wrestling experience (which is much better than traditional wrestling IMO), but not nearly as much as I'd like, when sometimes I have to go up against these guys because the bouncers are way across the club or busy elsewhere. So as has been said, in a brawl the MMA is better.
All that being said, I'd still much prefer going to the gym than watching anyone do anything.
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My former father-in-law has Parkinson's. I met him when it was already very noticeable & watched for years as he became worse and worse as the disease progressed. I witnessed first hand the rise and fall of emotions with every new drug he took and how his body always got used to them (making them effectively useless within the period of a few months). Even seeing the changes week to week was startling. He's a sports nut though & often we'd spend sunday mornings at the in laws house for brunch and football. I asked him once what he thought, as a Parkinson's patient, about the health dangers heavy contact sports players face. His response was something along the lines of "It's not as though they don't know the dangers going into it" & sadly I have to agree with that line of thought.
Science, the media, and medical professionals the world over have made it quite clear that if you play high contact sports, your chances of having serious medical ramifications later in life are very much increased. You're literally signing up to get hit in the head when you decide to start boxing! Maybe to make it more real they should be forced to spend a week with an advanced Parkinson's patient before a pro match... but if they are choosing to be high contact athletes, that's their choice. Mayweather has been boxing well over 20 years I bet. He knows the dangers and this far along in his career, he'll probably end up with one of those diseases eventually. he made a conscious decision to be a boxer for this long. If he'd been knocked out, it probably wouldn't have done anymore long term damage than 20+ years has already done. MacGregor has also been fighting a long ass time... again, it's a well informed choice that was made. Bearing all of that in mind, unless the person is calling for it to be over or are obviously unfit, TKO's can be a crock of crap. especially in the recent match, MG should've gone another round or have actually been knocked out. it's a bloody brutal sport & should be kept that way.





Roger Federer is the GOAT of tennis, yet he's never beaten Nadal at a French open on clay. That is a hundred times closer to grass, which is Federer's favorite surface, than boxing is to MMA. Mac didn't go up a weight class, he went to an entirely different sport and survived 10 rounds against one of the greatest boxers of all time. He could beat 95% of pro boxers. And Mayweather would probably lose in an MMA fight to him.
They say he made 70m, more than he's ever earned. I think he did exactly what he meant to do, and so did Mayweather, who has now earned $1billion.
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McGregor's had only one fight as a boxer, and he's now probably the best known boxer in the world, now that Mayweather is retired.





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