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    Question I feel so stupid!

    I danced with this guy for almost 3 fucking hours and didn't ask for the money before! And then after we finished he said he needed to hit the atm... For fucking $500. I KNEW something was up right then. Obviously his shit got declined and so the club took his id and credit card, but I have a feeling I'm never gonna see him or that money again! Fuck I feel so dumb. This has never happened to me before. Can they really just run off like that or do you think he will man up and pay it?

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    Default Re: I feel so stupid!

    So, after they took his card number, what they did? I once had a customer doing that, but the club paid me the money a few days later.





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    Default Re: I feel so stupid!

    Nothing, they made him leave to come back tomorrow. I feel really dumb and I think the club is had at me for not taking the money before like I clearly should have.

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    Default Re: I feel so stupid!

    You might (theoretically) be able to pursue legal action but odds of success are slim. Take this as a very valuable lesson to be learned. It doesn't make you a bad person and we all were new once.
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    The worst part is that I'm not new. I've been dancing for almost a year now. So I should know how people are such fucking assholes. I've just never had this shit happen to me before. He wasted my whole Sunday. From now and on it's ALWAYS the money up front. I hope I'm not in trouble with the club!

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    Default Re: I feel so stupid!

    It happened to me a couple of months ago, a couple I had "built rapport" with stacked a bunch of double dances and acted like they shouldn't have to pay me because I enjoyed it... hahaha... I ended up getting paid but it took a couple weeks and it was only because I pursued it, I didn't involve management. I basically just reminded her before they left that they have to pay me and they come there a lot so they finally did like the third time they came in after that.

    I hope you get your money. I've totally been there, I know how bad it sucks that night going home like FUCK I could have made actual money

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    Ooh, I feel you. I got pissed cause once a guy stiffed me on one dance! Ugh. Can you talk to mgt. @ your club & ask them about it? They should have a means to get after him..I mean what if he did that somewhere else(other type of bizz), I'm sure they'd have a way to get their $


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    Default Re: I feel so stupid!

    It happens. I've been in this biz forever, and had a good and loyal regular stiff me for $300 last year. All you can do at this point is to take a loss and move forward.

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    Default Re: I feel so stupid!

    ^ Same with a reg of mine $200, it happens.
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    Don't beat yourself up so much! Assholes are the cost of doing business in any industry, not just stripping. At the club I work at currently, I would have done exactly what you did, I've been here for well over a year, and have not had a single issue with someone even trying to rip me off/not pay me. I have never had to even ask club staff to help get me my money. Sometimes you get too comfortable I guess. I have been ripped off exactly like this before though, multiple times, at other clubs throughout my career. Sometimes it was because the management sucked (one bar one time the ATM was out of service and they didn't even bother putting up a sign or letting customers do cash back at the bar...idiots), sometimes it was because I was naive and new and just didn't know yet how to be assertive and make customers give me ALL my money, and sometimes the guy was just an asshole, and getting a bouncer to come over made him remember his pin# real fast. It really sucks but all you can do is learn from it. Now you know that your club does get a few shady customers, and it kind of sounds like they are bad at backing you up, so take this as a cue that in the future you should make sure that people are good for the dances you give them (to the best of your ability, even the most astute dancer will get ripped off once in a blue moon). You couldn't have known this beforehand. Like I said, cost of doing business. If you opened a store and had only been in business a year chances are you'd be paying to learn some lessons there too (counterfeit money, liscenscing fees, credit card fees, shrinkage, theft, etc.) These things happen. I hope you end up getting the money!
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    Default Re: I feel so stupid!

    Thank you! I really appreciate your input... This post was a while ago, but the guy called the club a few weeks ago, and he "negotiated" with the managers, and said he will pay $300 now, $200 later... I only got $150 out of everything. That is what my club gave me. And apparently he still hasn't come back with the $200. You are right. My club doesn't back me up well.

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    Honestly this happened to me in August or September and I've been dancing over three years now.
    It was a regular who just moved down here and saw me on the stage closest to the entrance of the club as soon as he walked in. He gave me a nice tip and asked me to come over. After that he came in almost every shift I worked and we exchanged phone numbers. I did make a pretty penny off this guy over the course of a few weeks but he was annoying. He was physically attractive and could be funny but he always ruined the fun we were having with trying to pressure me into going to his place blah blah blah
    So eventually on a weekend night we do the usual and he stacks dances. He tells me he only has $100 cash on him and he'd have to give me the rest another day because he'd gambled earlier and couldn't pull out more. At that very moment I knew I was going to have to count it as a loss.
    I told him I knew exactly what he was doing but refused to say anything more as now I really had to get a move on and make money that I was actually gonna go home with. Sure enough he texted me soon after that and said "let me know when we can meet up to give you that money" and I told him when I was working again. He simply responded he wasn't going to come into my work place anymore. I responded telling him I knew what he was up to when he didn't pay me in full and I was completely expecting him to do that to me, that it was nice knowing him and BYE. Blocked his phone number and I've never seen him come in again.
    The only way I think I could have handled that situation better I think was telling him that I had figured out his plan right then and there. I guess I just had a glimmer of hope he wouldn't steal from me. The worst part is that he has money. Once when he paid me (I never counted money in front of him because he didn't like it and I developed some trust towards him), he let his atm receipt and he had over 70k in his checking account. He ought to do the right thing and pay me back, but eh. Guess its better he just never come in. He was really annoying at times and I stuck it out because it was $$$. everything comes to an end though.

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    Default Re: I feel so stupid!

    Unfortunately, even regulars can't fully be trusted if they think they've found an opportunity to pull one over on you.

    Nvr EVER stack dances or hrs. EVER. I have been ripped off a few times over the yrs, the worst was this guy who got like 6 dances in a row, opened his wallet & proudly showed me that he didn't even have an ATM card to w/draw what he owed me from the club machine he'd brought just enough cash to tip semi-decently, & that was pretty much that. Thieving motherfucker. The bouncer didn't even toss him for ripping me off -- he got him outside to keep me from fkng him up.

    Now I ALWAYS ask for at least the first dance upfront. The last couple times it happened, it was w/ guys who tipped REALLY WELL so I trusted them to pay me for private dances ... but even in those cases I always collect every 2nd song or so. This keeps the loss of time to a minimum(that I could have been talking to paying customers) & any $$ loss to a minimum. I may be as hell & ready to throw that shitsucking cheapass over the VIP balcony railing, but at least I'm only out the cost of one dance, or two at the most.

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    Default Re: I feel so stupid!

    Had this happen to me my third week, He bought several hours of chatting for $500 (the club was completely dead, so I was all over it). I got him to pay me $200 up front, then when I went up for my last stage set at the end of the night, he darted. I was madder than a wet hen.

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