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    Default Civilian Jobs - When Do You Throw in the Towel? <work talk>

    I'm 33, I quit dancing over 2 years ago.

    Recently I had a strange experience in the civilian world.

    I was hired to do a job for a company being paid $17/hour, which I though was okay. I was excited about working at a new place. About a month in, my 2 bosses have a meeting with me and tell me they'd like to offer me a full-time job w/benefits! They have me fill out an 1099, which now seems odd... I was stupid and thought my salary would just change, and I didn't know I needed to sign an employment contract.

    Eventually I call a meeting to ask them when they would know about the salary/benefits position...

    Long story short, it's been six WEEKS and my bosses have been piling more and more work on me, making up arbitrary deadlines, and telling me that I need it all done now. All this for $3/hour LESS than I started in July -- $14/hour?! I might want to say now that it's about half of what this job usually pays...

    I kept asking them, and they kept telling me they'd "know" in a week. They'd know in another week. Then they'd know TOMORROW. It got pushed back three times, and when they finally had an "answer," it was a nonanswer; it was them telling me they still had not heard....


    "m prety much over this!

    I quickly realize that my bosses are a bit incompetent and my entire presence is a bandaid for a project that's already going to fall apart/fail...

    They had a meeting with me in September, then pushed that meeting back over 2 weeks. So I just found out last tues. that I do not indeed "have a job."

    To add insult to injury (stringing me along for 6 weeks -- I think intentionally)..

    so i agree to work. I tell them I can work Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Thursday and Friday, I worked alone, but Saturday I was to meet my 2bosses at a location to get our work done.

    I get a call 2 hrs. before we're to meet. mY boss had to take her daughter to scocer. could I meet htem tomorrow and monday (sunday and a national holiday?!?)

    I said no, I told her I'd touch base on Monday. that's all I can do.

    I want to quit so badly...
    ...or go to HR so badly

    but the internets sez that

    1) quitting is bad
    2) HR depts are gossipy and not to be trusted whatosever b/c they side with the school always; I don't wanna be a troublemaker.

    I also (just from observing) think that a trip to HR would be the final nail in my boss' coffin; I don't want the drama......it's not worth it

    Here's my question: When do you Throw in the Towel? ?????

    When is it not worth it??????? Do you think I should just "gut it up" and keep going to work, or shoudl I asset myself or look for greener pastures?

    I'm gonna have a "me day" tomorrow and figure some of this out.

    tl;dr company "hired me," They told me 6 weeks after 'hiring" me that I in fact do not have the benefits, salary, and title I was told I'd get, but they still want me to work this Sunday and a federal holiday as an independent contractor, doing work I wasn't even hired to do (more work) for less pay...

    other friends have told me to demand more pay; I don't know....
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    Default Re: Civilian Jobs - When Do You Throw in the Towel? <work talk>

    Honestly, my tolerance for "civilian work" BS is so low at this point, that I would literally just not go in to work at this point. This place sounds ridiculous - and not just by "spoiled stripper standards." It is completely unprofessional to tell you you're hired for one job, when you haven't really been. And then to keep giving you more work for less pay, and expect you to always be available when they have to cancel?

    Seriously, even if you were to just up and quit, if you explained this to any other professional job, they would understand why you left. If it were me, I would write an email to HR explaining my situation and decision in detail, and just stop going; turn off my phone and not feel bad about it. I wouldn't want to talk to anyone directly, lest they try to guilt me into staying with vague "promises" of things changing or getting better (hint: they never fucking do), but screw the guilt over just up and leaving - they aren't even remotely holding up their end of the bargain so why should you?

    So I don't just sound disillusioned and bitter about the working world, ultimately, I would ask yourself: What are you getting out of this? You're not being paid well, you're not receiving benefits, you have no stability, you obviously aren't on any sort of track for advancement if your boss can't even tell you what your current job is, and you think the project is going to fail regardless. I know there's the whole "don't ask what your employer can do for you but what you can do for your employer" advice going around - but, for real, no one just helps out a completely incompetent employer indefinitely with no benefit to themselves. It's not worth it.

    Use the time to search for a different job instead.
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    Default Re: Civilian Jobs - When Do You Throw in the Towel? <work talk>

    I had a civilian job like that. I was hired for one position and got thrown into another one I didn't want. At all. In fact, I was clear in my interview I had zero interest in the position they clearly had in mind for me. I had another offer on the table that paid 30% more, but job #1 matched the salary. So I went ahead and accepted the position. About 3 months in, it became clear that I wasn't just "filling in" on the job I didn't want, that I was the new HR person for the company. My boss laughed it off with a comment about how good I was at the job, I may as well just stick with it.

    I fucking hated that job. I quit when it became clear that the whole thing was a way to get me into that position. I didn't have any place else to work, so after a couple of months I went back to dancing.

    Vanilla jobs suck.

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    Default Re: Civilian Jobs - When Do You Throw in the Towel? <work talk>

    Sounds like they bait and switched you. Don't feel bad about moving on. Personally, I'd do it professionally -- meaning handing in a two weeks notice and not spilling your feelings to HR, your boss, or anyone else in the company, and then find something better. They have undoubtedly behaved incredibly unprofessionally, but that doesn't mean you have to tarnish your own reputation by doing the same and just quitting. You just never know when you'll cross paths with people again. But definitely move on to somewhere that actually respects its employees!

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    Default Re: Civilian Jobs - When Do You Throw in the Towel? <work talk>

    ... 'bait and switch', with discount labor in the meantime !!!

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    Default Re: Civilian Jobs - When Do You Throw in the Towel? <work talk>

    Yup, you got that right! Update: I left my work on a thumb drive with my key in my boss' mailbox and emailed them my final invoice. I said in the future if they wanted to hire me for IC work, my rate would be X/hr and I'd need all terms in writing. Haven't heard from them since.

    Sketchiest thing about this is that they told me that I could be hired for them if I had a business license? My buddy told me that any employer that asks you to do that is sketch.

    Glad to be free...

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    Default Re: Civilian Jobs - When Do You Throw in the Towel? <work talk>

    I agree. ."vanilla jobs suck!" After leaving escorting in the early 90's I have worked many kinds of jobs from admin to waitress. .and couldn't work for some jerkoff powertrippin boss barking orders at me like I was a child for peanuts!
    I found camming and make just enough working 25 hours a week. Yes, its a pain in the butt at times, but I can "BAN"!!
    FREEDOM!!! Too bad I discovered this at 50...but Ill keep doing this until I cant. Rock on!
    with loving hugs..."LadyFionaStar" All American Cougar

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