at this point I don't feel comfortable removing or editing any posts from this thread as I'm not sure what (if anything) is falsified.
what I do feel confident saying though, as a site/service operator myself, is that communication and respect are vital. as individuals who run services/sites upon which other models are listed, it's our job to explain things, to keep the lines of communication open and above all to maintain a professional demeanor no matter how others behave.
I gotta admit I feel really fucking uncomfortable here, as both parties involved are listed on my site and I have a great working relationship with both. that said it seems like there have been quite a few growing pains involved with this site and I can't in good conscience censor chicas experiences of the site without cause. in regard to the tenor of some of the posts here; yes, respect is a two-way street, but behaving professionally is an individual choice unrelated to how we're treated. as a site owner I know that first hand. Lashing out and fighting with sign-ups on forums and social media isn't a smart or helpful way to deal with performer issues.
I do hope that Jade gets paid and that Jane's studio continues to provide a service to women who find value in it. But yeah, we're adult, professional business women. I hope we can all maintain that as the dialogue in this thread unfolds.





She was paid already, last night like I said in prior messages. My concern is the Skype messages will reflect on the cam employee in a negative way and that's not fair to him. Im sure he already wasnt happy to have to be talked to about this today and have his conversation brought up on his computer and checked. Like I said that can get an employee fired and that's just not cool. I can have the site contact you directly if that's easier. I am fine with all messages posted, but if it can be proven to be false that Skype text should come down.
I dont want you to be uncomfortable. Issues happen with new sites, thats just a fact. I wish they didnt but it does. You learn from all experiences and than you grow. I am working on my patience and have to just accept all messages may not be polite and try not to take it personally. Im pretty lucky because 99 percent of this experience has been positive and I have met some really wonderful performers.
Last edited by JaneBurgess; 11-10-2014 at 08:45 PM.





I actually didn't bring your name into it at all so you might want to reread my segment clearly as well. I said from reading what that Greg guy did/said (not sure if he's the owner or your husband, etc) I just think it was fucked up. Whether you agree with me or not, that's not my problem.
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I get that, it was just a stressful day trying to handle all of this. You know I respect your opinion and Greg already had a chat with me about this. Hopefully everything is fixed for everyone. I spent the day fixing everything so pretty sure I took care of everyone and everything.
If I drank alcohol I would have some right now. if you drink, have one for me.
Jane and i talked on skp we had a normal conversation.
She solved my probs and paid me on payoneer that She fixed for me
Im on my cellphone now so if the mod can delete my posts
I dont have access to my laptop now cause im not at home a few days so i cant delete them
Everything worked out and fixed very quickly
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I just set up everyone's payments and I have to say I am really glad we went with Bill.com over other processors. They make it super easy to set up and send out payments. I have a hang of payroll now and doing a happy dance!!!
They hired a tranny. Does this mean more types of girls are being welcomed to the site?





Nice, that's good to hear. It's a step in the right direction thankfully. If it's a porn star or well known cam performer, they might be testing her out to see how the customers respond. As far as I know they still aren't hiring BBW's, alternative, etc. I will ask and see if they have an e.t.a. on when they are planning to open the site to more performers.




This is an honest and accurate review of my experience working with Jane's studio and FWC. I started this thread as a place to share information about the FWC site. I want this information to be available, and we have this forum to openly discuss our issues with sites. I'm not going to participate in drama on SW, and have no interest in anything other than helping other performers avoid the nightmare I went through and shedding light on the way I was treated.
I'm going to layout a timeline and excerpts from emails to illustrate my points. I'll put dash marks between emails to separate them from my comments.
I know it's a new site and that there was an information gap between Jane and the site on some things, but she just didn't seem to want to put the effort into properly explaining things to the models, particularly involving payment (where it is most necessary since that's why we're there...). She and her husband have been hostile and impatient in their email responses, which is bizarre to me for someone who is getting part of my money. The worst part for me has been her lack of patience and respect in all her interactions. This attitude was not limited to her interaction with me, as many other models have expressed exactly the same experience.
The studio performers were signed up under Jane as an affiliate with no terms, contract, or even a website to refer to for information. This should have been a red flag, but I was eager to jump on board with a camgirl-run studio, since I've loved working with Boleyn Models and LCMS and have zero complaints.




Once I started working for the site, I had questions. Each time I emailed Jane or Greg with multiple questions in an email, they would respond with a brief answer to one question, and sometimes not even that. I felt, throughout the entire ordeal, that they were not listening to me. So, I would be forced to email again. Rapidly, the responses to my emails became uniformly terse, short, and sometimes my emails were not even answered. The email responses were short, and appeared to be rapidly typed out, with little thought or concern. I strongly believe that it was the studio's job to clearly. competently, and respectfully answer performer's questions, but each time I felt as though I was annoying them by asking very basic things that I'm sure many of use were wondering.
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Sent my address to Greg on October 14, asking for confirmation that they had all my info.
On October 15, I received an email from Jane saying that the site wanted her to contact me about not being engaging in free chat. Emailed Jane back saying that I would be more friendly in free chat, and I deliberately made that effort from then on. --------------------------
DesertProd Webcam <[email protected]>
Oct 17
to me
Yes they are paying you your hourly rate for the hours you worked. I do believe they plan to take you off the hourly rate because they feel for all the hours you worked, you only earned 400 tokens.
I will double check with them and get back to you about it.
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(I kept working on the site) Worked over 19 hours, confirmed by Jane on October 25. Never had a "timecard" on the site.
Now we move on to actually getting paid. Originally, I had elected to do ACH, then when I found out that they could send a check, I told Greg the next day. He tried to send an ACH anyway, but it did not go through for some reason. He emailed to tell me that (funnily enough, responding to the email in which I requested a check, not ACH).
In the email below, I asked if my ACH payment was all set up.




DesertProd Webcam <[email protected]>
Oct 17
to me
Correct for this weeks earnings through sunday
me <[email protected]>
to DesertProd
Ok....I guess that's a confirmation that it's set up for next Friday?
Is it possible to find out how many hours and the total I'll be paid? I never did get the 'timecard'.
Thank you
Jane Burgess <[email protected]>
Oct 18
to me
Yes we will make sure the time card is updated and it will reflect the total amount paid out. The hours you have been online are showing in your account in the stats. I already confirmed yesterday the ACH info in an email to you.
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Greg "got back to me" on October 21 that I was going to be removed from the hourly pay. Jane later said that FWC had emailed me directly about this, but I never received an email from the site itself.
DesertProd Webcam <[email protected]>
Oct 21
to me
Whoops. forgot you had the hours and the gtee, so you do have a payout, they took you off the gtee because you were not engaging, mostly just sitting there still. but we are working on the hours you had before they took you off. They did not pay on those hours, if we have to eat it, then we will. can you bear with us a day or two more to get that guarantee to you?
Greg




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DesertProd Webcam <[email protected]>
Oct 22
to me
I will change your payment to check. It will be mailed out Friday evening
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(The following is a great example of me asking three questions and having none answered.)
<[email protected]>
Oct 22
to DesertProd
Ok, thank you. Can you confirm the total that will be paid? Will there be another payment for different dates/second week, or is will all my hours and days be on this check?
DesertProd Webcam <[email protected]>
Oct 22
to me
Ill send it in a check via your request
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DesertProd Webcam <[email protected]>
Oct 23
to me
The amount of hours you worked are in your account under stats, I checked and Jane emailed you them a couple of days ago. She sent the hours you worked and the amount of tokens you earned.
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(Again, I never was able to access these "stats" on my dashboard.)
me<[email protected]>
Oct 23
to DesertProd
Hi,
The hours that Jane sent me did not include the last day that I worked, which I believe was October 18th or 19th. Please send me an updated total, and let me know the amount of the check and when it will be mailed.
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me <[email protected]>
to Jane, DesertProd
Ok....I will wait to hear. I hope that everyone is aware that I was not told that I was taken off the hourly pay until October 21.
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Jane Burgess <[email protected]>
Oct 25
to me
Yes they are aware. Its kind of annoying what they are trying to do but they will pay it by Monday. They dont want a battle on their hands.
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Jane Burgess
Oct 27
to me
No. They didnt send the funds to pay you for the 18 hours. They took a few people off the hourly and on Friday when they sent the studio payment, it was short the funds for the people they took off hourly. Thats what Greg has been working on to send the funds.
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Jane Burgess
Oct 27
to me
Greg just talked to them and they said they will be sending those funds on Wednesday. So as soon as they come in I will send you your funds. The hours you worked total $270 and I will have to go in and add up the tokens. It will be around $300, but I will add them up and send you a total tonight.
I know they and you are counting on the payment, thats why Greg bitched at them all weekend and told them they cant just not pay performers.
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At this point, I think that I'll be paid for all my hours and tokens earned. Not so! Jane told me that she couldn't pay me since she didn't get paid by FWC for all my hours.
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me<[email protected]>
Oct 30
to Jane
Jane,
Now I'm concerned about my check. Was it sent by you or by Bill.com? Yesterday you said that it had been mailed. Can you please let me know?
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Jane Burgess
Oct 30
to me
I told you already. You are a one time payee I don't think they send you an email
me <[email protected]>
Oct 30
to Jane
Yes, you said yesterday that it was mailed...but I am asking if you can check on that so that I know when to expect it.
Jane Burgess
Oct 30
to me
Youi are a one time payee they don't do it the same as the weekly performers. Its sent out
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DesertProd Webcam
Nov 4
to me
Had you down as direct deposit. Either send the correct direct deposit info, or just keep receiving checks.
me
Nov 3
to Jane
Hi Jane,
Can you please check with Bill.com and find out whether my check has actually been mailed? Last week you said that it was mailed on Wednesday, now it's Monday and I haven't received anything.
Jane Burgess
Yes it has
Nov 3
On November 4, I emailed Greg asking for confirmation that the check would be made out to my real and not performer name, and received the following response.
DesertProd Webcam
Nov 4
to me
Read much, i said it will keep sending checks. and that is your reference name, not the name of the payee.
Fuck
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Seriously. Jane's husband, who could not competently send me a payment, an adult, said this to me. Apparently, he was "stressed out" with the payments and I was emailing too many times. Well, so were the performers who weren't receiving any payments. I responded to this rude email with one stating that I only wished to be done with the studio and wanted my check.
I had no other contact with Greg, but much later, Jane did apologize for my late payment and Greg's behavior. Too little, too late. In an edited post in this thread, she said that I was "lucky" she was still talking to me after I stopped working for FWC, even though I still had no idea at that point where my payment was.
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me <[email protected]>
Nov 9
to Jane
Hi Jane,
It has been six days since Greg said that my check is being sent from Bill.com and I still haven't received it. Can you please confirm with them and let me know?
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Jane Burgess
Nov 9
to me
I dont see it so I will put it in myself on Bill.com tonight and they will send it off tomorrow via check. If they dont send you an email confirmation by tomorrow night please let me know. I dont know when they send them out but it should be the same day they go out.
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(They didn't, so I emailed her again.) Two days later, I received an email confirmation from Bill.com saying that I'd be paid $160. Jane said that she'd speak with someone at the site about payment for my remaining hours, and give me the contact info to contact them directly.
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Jane,
Thanks for letting me know. As we talked about yesterday, please speak with the site about my remaining hours. Also, do you have an email or phone number for someone at the site that I can speak with?
Jane Burgess
Nov 11
to me
Im waiting back on the info to contact accounting directly. When I get it I will send it to you. Customer service cant really do anything but forward a message
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(Never happened.)




If I ran a studio and told someone that they were getting paid $300, I would damn well send them $300 and take the issue up with the site. That's only right. I feel like it is her studio's responsibility to pay me for all the hours I worked, since the site took away the hourly retroactively.
Nov 19 - Holy crap! I received a check in the mail for $160. This was payment for $46 in tokens and $113 in hours (less than nine paid out of 19).
I spoke via telephone to Jose at FWC and expressed my concerns. He replied that he had heard multiple complaints from models about the studio.
The main takeaway I have from my time spent with the site and particularly Jane's studio is that they are run in an unprofessional manner. I have never worked with anyone in the adult industry who is so unsympathetic. When I am paying someone, i.e., a studio, I expect them to work FOR or at least WITH me.
Whatever the intentions, this website and especially this studio have not executed performer support to even a minimum standard that was comfortable or trustworthy. As a performer, I saw no interest in pursuing performer payment, and inexcusable treatment of performers. I would not recommend working with either Jane's studio or FWC.
Thank you to the many performers who reached out to me with similar stories of poor treatment and encouraged me to put this information out there for other performers who may be considering joining this studio and/or site.
I've been getting paid just fine. Sometimes it'll be a couple days late but not a whole month. Idk what happened for you cowgirl but it's only been getting better since that whole fiasco went down. The only payment I'm waiting for is the week of 17-23, I'm guessing thanksgiving got in the middle of sending them out or something, and White House Black Market took all my money on black friday lol but I'm expecting at least an email from bill.com today or tomorrow.
I am doing fine as well. No real issues with payment or glitches. I do get kicked off for not being on cam when i am changing back into my clothes but that is just being diligent on their part.
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Yes I have been paid on time no problem, except in the beginning and janes already got me all caught up to the cycle,I get email from bill on Monday and I get the check at the end of the week..the site is fine as well no problems with it.the few problems I had in the beginning I would just skype jane. It's unfortunate this is happening to some.
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I'm glad that some models have had no problems, that's awesome! The fact is, many of us had serious problems and people need to be aware. I've had four people PM me since last night with their own stories of mistreatment and inaccurate payments.





While I get you are upset, the site is the one that had an issue with you. They didn't like your lack of performance and your failure to do nothing at all in free chat. They are the one's that chose to take you off hourly, they are the ones that chose to not work with you and that is their right. Like I said from day one, the site will ALWAYS have final say over any performer. There is nothing I or any other studio owner can do about that.
They also said they contacted you directly and told you that you were taken off of hourly. I can't do anything about that because they own the site and they pick who gets paid per hour. I gave you an email address to contact them at if you wanted to talk to them directly.
As for being hostile to you, you didn't seem to understand anything that was said to you. You literally sent me emails over and over that asked the exact same questions. I answered them all each time. I have patience and had a lot of patience for you. As a cam performer you should have the ability to know how to work on a cam site. Granted they should have a list of rules and such and I already told them that. However I can't change that because it's their site and that's not in my power.
I sent you this and told you the site didn't like your performance. They contacted you on the same day I sent this to you.
Jane Burgess <[email protected]>
Oct 16
Approved does mean approved. However once approved if the site thinks you aren't actually working out they can stop working with you. You aren't rejected and they will pay you for your hours. I sent you an email yesterday about how they wanted you to be more interactive in free chat.
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Last edited by loveshooks; 12-01-2014 at 02:00 PM. Reason: edited out name in email





In all fairness I could post your one million messages but I won't. Im sorry you had issues but I think it's unfair to say that the site or I mistreated you or any other performer. I always go out of my way to help any performer. I even went to bat for you and tried to get them to pay you what you thought you were owed. They said they contacted you about being taken off of hourly directly and they have an email sent you that states they took you off hourly and they didn't like your performance. It was sent to the same e-mail address you contacted me from. I have to believe them because you also told me that you didnt get emails from me and I have every single one in my outbox that shows they were sent.
I also apologized for any issues that happened in the beginning. Issues were bound to happen and they did. They were all corrected and everyone has been paid and they are paid on time now as well. Some of the issues were also performer issues. You want to blame me and the site and that's fine. I honestly don't care because there are always going to be unhappy performers no matter what I do. Look at the threads on here to see examples of that.




I never received an email from FWC saying that they were taking me off the hourly, so I kept on working. I have no idea what happened to that mysterious email; I looked and have not found it. You never confirmed with me that I was taken off hourly until after October 21. I was never paid for those hours.
I worked, I was notified that my pay was being taken away retroactively.
I did not "do nothing" in free chat. I interacted exactly the same as I do on every other site. If FWC wanted to take me off the site, of course they have that choice, but I was not made aware of that decision, as I have said.
You and your husband were both rude to me. Yes, that is my opinion.
It took one month to get my partial payment.
All of these things are unacceptable to me. I get it, you don't care. It's over and I'm glad to be done.
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