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    Default How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    Couldn't find anything on this with the search so I would like to find out how our customers seem to view the different sites overall.

    I've asked a total of maybe 20 or so guys so it's very random but overall they seem to answer with the following:

    SM = a classier site with higher quality video streaming, good interface
    MFC = younger, more crass, lower end streaming, easy going site with less rules
    Chaturbate = anything goes kind of site (which is weird to me because it actually has a lot of rules)
    LiveJasmin = annoying site with fake girls who don't really pay attention to you (I was surprised by this!)

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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    I've heard many guys say that SM has the best selection of models, but also that the girl's rates are more expensive than other sites.

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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    Why are you surprised at lj? I've heard some girls do make bank on there, but they are the one splitcamming 10 sites at once so of course they're not paying attention. If you're not splitting that site is pointless, just low rates and beggars.

    When chaturbate started they didn't check id or anything, it was full of underage kids. It's like one step up from chat roulette!

    I think most guys see mfc for what it is, a completely free show. Out if all if them SM definitely looks the best.
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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    Sexysuzie nailed it, my thoughts too. I also think it is crazy that Chaturbate now has the most rules, like not allowing alcohol on cam, for real, lol.

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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    Yeah I remember when chaturbate crawled out of reddit. It is still the Wild West, but not as much as it used to be.





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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    I think many guys see MFC as a hang out place when bored. I go on MFC and sit in a few rooms because they are entertaining and the girls are funny. I think many lonely guys see it as some like of social thing, kinda a night out that's a night in. If that makes sense.
    I don't believe they ALL see it as some kind of free thing because at least 10 girls are on roughly 20k+ more a month 90 odd girls making a good 8-10k and your average girl making 3-4k a month so it can't be that bad.

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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    There are plenty of girls on lj that are exactly like you say. But there are exceptions. All the gardens have its weeds - more or less. I only work on lj right now. I tried imlive too but i couldn't focus on both so i stopped. And i make good money from my small rate. Don't know what you mean by bank tough. And I do stay 8 hours per day to work.
    On lj there is free chat & private chat. If you wanna see anything you gotta go in private chat. There are tons of freeloaders & guys who get frustrated by the fact that girls won't show anything, in free chat, for tips (we can't, lj now is suspending accounts for nudity in free chat). So yes we might not give attention to everybody & get mad quickly (because of the freeloaders & the fact that you can't block members who annoy you).

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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    This is a great questions and something I've really been taking note of as of late.

    My custies from MFC are scared of Streamate. They actually hate that I predominantly cam there now (probably because it's pay to play and they don't get those public cum shows anymore HA!). They also don't like SM because it isn't very social - they can't sit and BS with me because of the interruption of me going to PRV/EXCL. So it's sort of the way I see it - MFC = social sexy time. SM - wham bam thank you maam (keep in mind I don't do Gold Shows on SM)

    And it's opposite with my SM regs. They don't like MFC because the streaming quality is low and they don't like the group chat thing. I think most of my custies are older dudes though.

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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    Wow thanks for the answers guys! I found out today that MFC guys tend to go back and forth between CB and back to MFC and that they have usually been with MFC for a long time like at least 5 years or more. And yes, token site guys don't tend to like the private sites and vice versa!

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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    Here is what I found going from MFC to Streamate back in 2011.

    MFC is the "hangout" where guys don't HAVE to spend money at all to get a show. They will sit in their favorite girls room all night long and tip maybe a few bucks here and there, and be allowed to say as long as they want. They also enjoy the luxury of being part of some "club" of guys who the model just looooooves because they are her "regulars" who sit in her room all night long and worship her and "support" her on every single thing, even if they only tip $5 a week while sitting in her room every single night.

    SM is the place where guys are expected to pay. If you are on SM you better be prepared to join shows, because the models are not going to tolerate freeloaders, for the most part. Now of course with Gold Shows and the still rampant $0 shows, some rooms are becoming more relaxed and allowing the "hangout freeloaders" to stay without ever contributing. But, I think that most guys are picking up on which models are going to tolerate the "free hangout" mentality and stay away from everyone else who expects them to pay.

    When I went from MFC to SM pretty much NONE of my "oh so loyal fans" followed me to Streamate. Why? Because I expected them to start putting their money where their mouth is and pay up.

    So that's pretty much how guys perceive those two sites. MFC - free. SM - pay to play.
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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    Great thread. I think I'll ask boys what they think of the sites.

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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    Everything above is true, prob cause of the name

    myFREEcams - Guys think Yay FREE

    Streamate - Ummm so not Free

    Everytime I get an annoying freeloader I kindly remind him the site is not called Stream-FREE-mates... and to please go elsewhere.


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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    Yes what Sarah said, i dont have all day to stay online & please guys for free so MFC style is not my cup of tea, i get online & wanna be paid for the few hrs i spend on cam, i am all for SM style, pay to play 'baby'! Yes, the members on those 2 sites (or site types-> pvt type & token type) are totally different, they either like one site type or another, cant like both. I also consider MFC style fits to younger girls full of energy & enthusiasm, patience & the looks, all that girlie attitude, tolerant & sweet, i am too old for that lol, i want the 'bam bam thank u mam' type of members so 'come, pay, enjoy then leave', i am happy with that haha.

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    I think SarahTime said it very well. I use to be on MFC and I couldn't stand it. I lasted for about a year and half before I got fed up and switched over to SM. The guys + hustle style is not my cup of tea. I use to cam on F4F years ago before MFC and that was one if the reasons I really enjoyed switching back to a pay for play site. I sometimes get frustrated with SM freeloaders and remind myself of MFC times. I hated guys trying to acted like they were entitled to hang out for free and I should feel privileged over this. I can't speak for LJ but F4F use to have freeloader problem at times as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    But, I think that most guys are picking up on which models are going to tolerate the "free hangout" mentality and stay away from everyone else who expects them to pay.
    Lol, so true. I really don't have to tell people to tip that often anymore because my regs will tell these freeloaders what is expected. It's like I have my own private moderators.





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    Good thread. I agree with what's been said. But here's my take... When I first started camming, I tried to be nice and follow the general advice on the do's and don't's of camming. That didn't work for me. Turns out, they like me bitchy! When I started on MFC, I got privates and skypes more than making countdowns. Yes, I would put a countdown up, but the goals were almost never met. It was more for people in my room to have a reason to tip for friend ads and vids if they went towards the "goal." But really I was just there for privates and would make it feel to the room that the guy who took me private, "stole" me away from the other guys. There's a sense of competition on those token sites that can be compelling for the guys that do privates on MFC or other token sites. Also MFC lets the guys keep a vid of their privates so they can relive the moments again and again. I often got mail from guys that splurged on a $200 private with me on MFC and how they can't afford to do it again, but how they like to watch it OVER AND OVER. Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but the point is that you can get privates on token sites/ There are no set rules on how to work a particular camsite (except of course, the site rules!). You can be successful by going against the grain. Remember, you don't find your niche, it finds you...

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    Default Re: How do our customers perceive the different cam sites?

    I started on F4F and they didnt have the freeloader problem as bad until they started their version of Goldshows- I think they called it Party Chat - They did seemed more inclined to get to know you before buying shows - and they spent well but after the party chat started it was harder and fewer bought privates- that is when i bailed and went to SM - took SM another year or so to start GS's
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    Funny you said that Sarah. When I first started on MFC I used to pay so much attention to low tip guys (the ones who tip 100 tokens every 3 months) and to the guys who sat in my room and didn't tip but had good chat.

    I then started looking at my list of highest tipping members and started to pay far less attention to these every night non tipping guys. It worked because 4 of them stopped coming in my room and a bunch started tipping more to gain my attention again.

    MFC from a models perspective is a hard place to be. Always on top of your game, constantly being aware of when to talk, when your talking too muchand when your teasing too much.

    It's such a hard place. It can be an utter mindfuck at times. But amazing things can happen there.
    Mfc is a place for people who seek a buzz. A massive tip is a huge buzz for me.

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    ^^ It happens with SM guys too... You see the number next to their name which means they have spent money before. Some of these guys come in every night. So you learn their names and chat with them, etc. But I have started to check the show/tip history of these guys and learned that TONS of them haven't spent anything in months! Or maybe only one time a year ago, yet they come in all the time acting like we are best buds. So yah, everyone should be checking these "regulars" every now and then to make sure they are not time wasters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsBellaSpanxx View Post
    My custies from MFC are scared of Streamate. They actually hate that I predominantly cam there now (probably because it's pay to play and they don't get those public cum shows anymore HA!).
    Yes, I think you're right because I've been saying the same thing for a while. Guys have gotten spoiled from the public cum shows on MFC...that when they do cross over to pay-per-minute sites, they start whining it's "too expensive."
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