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    Has anyone ever heard of a day shift raid? I'm asking because I only work day shift and my manager was going around telling girls to be careful what they say to customers. The day before that I met a strange person, who went for a lap dance with me almost immediately after I asked:"would you like a dance?". He didn't finish the dance, stopped half way, gave me money and ran off. He kept saying my stage name as if to try to remember it. But he didn't ask anything and didn't say anything. I worked full day that day and then the next day and nothing (thank God) happened. But I'm suspicious of that guy was a cop and was repeating my name to put me on the black list or whatever. I don't know of course. When I worked in NYC, cops used to come but then arrest the girl the same night. Not sure how it works in Florida though.
    Anyway, I've heard of night shift raids but never day shift raids? Has anyone? I am thinking if I keep working day shift during the week will I be safe? Or should I just change clubs for the time being?
    Any advice appreciated

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    Day shift raids happen. Who the heck told you that they don't?

    I have no clue what was up with your customer... But cops don't put you on a black list... They arrest you.


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    Default Re: Day shift raid?

    Of course day shift raids happen and your custie sounds more like a weirdo than a cop honestly

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    If you had done smtg arrest-worthy, you would have been arrested right then. Whoever told you day shifters nvr get raided is full of it.

    It's possible that the customer was trying to weird you & a few of your coworkers out, & a nervous dancer told the mgr abt it & he in turn decided he had to make sure his own bases were covered; hence the warning. I had that happen once. A few guys came in, got dances w/ practically any girl who offered, & behaved strangely during the dances. They were doing it for kicks, just trying to make us nervous.

    If you're that worried, maybe double check the laws in your area just to make sure you're staying inside the lines.

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    If you didnt do anything bad, don't worry. People only get arrested when they break the law. I have heard of day shift raids, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. Changing your shift or club seems a little drastic.

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    The few times that bylaw has come investigating in my club have been during the day, so, yes, you can certainly get in trouble with law enforcement during the day.

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    Dayshift raids can happen. However sometimes they will raid not because of girls doing things in the club they shouldn't, but to see if anyone has a warrant out (I've seen dancers get arrested this way). Or to do random drug searches with a drug dog.

    I second the other girls that if you didn't do anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about. Or if you are very worried about a raid in the future/possibly being arrested then you should mind what you say/do every minute of every shift, not just when its suspect that cops are coming in undercover. This way you're covered no matter what.

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    Thanks for everyone's replies. in my case I'm so worried about a raid is because I know that you can get arrested for just a lap dance. Because apparently even touching your own boobs is illegal, forget touching customers lap. With this in mind, if police is sniffing around right now and if they get a hair up their ass, they just can arrest for practically no reason. Maybe I'm just paranoid and over exaggerating it in my head. I don't know...... It's not a place and time for me to leave this job right now anyway, so I'm just trying to figure out a way to work and not get arrested for touching my boobs so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy_Jenny View Post
    Thanks for everyone's replies. in my case I'm so worried about a raid is because I know that you can get arrested for just a lap dance. Because apparently even touching your own boobs is illegal, forget touching customers lap. With this in mind, if police is sniffing around right now and if they get a hair up their ass, they just can arrest for practically no reason. Maybe I'm just paranoid and over exaggerating it in my head. I don't know...... It's not a place and time for me to leave this job right now anyway, so I'm just trying to figure out a way to work and not get arrested for touching my boobs so to speak.
    Like I said, double check your local bylaws to make sure you are (or are not) just being paranoid.

    As to working w/o touching your boobs, can you maybe use props to get around that restriction? Fancy scarves, fans, etc. That way you wouldn't technically be fondling yourself, the contact would be from the props.

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    If you had done smtg arrest-worthy, you would have been arrested right then
    Actually, where the 'real' motivation behind a club bust is election year headlines, it's not unheard of for undercover cops to attempt to gather evidence against every dancer in the club over a period of time ... which can eventually be used to make a 'wall to wall' club bust to generate big local news headlines at a later date ... like right before election day !


    Because apparently even touching your own boobs is illegal, forget touching customers lap
    Indeed some state and local prostitution / lewd conduct laws are written such that a dancer giving a 'business as usual' lap dance is technically acting illegally.


    People only get arrested when they break the law.
    Ahhh, if only this were actually true. The unfortunate reality is that cops can arrest any dancer. Actually making that charge 'stick' in a court of law is a different story. But for local headline purposes, busting every dancer in the club obviously carries more 'weight' ... and practically nobody will ever see that charges were dropped or plea-bargained away in the 'back page' local news report which shows up days or weeks later.

    however, when it comes to making that charge 'stick', unless the club has very good security cam recordings which would allow a dancer to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that she didn't actually do the things the arresting officer claims she did, a 'he said, she said' situation will wind up being presented in court. It will then be left up to a jury made up of jealous housewives, gov't employees, bible thumping retirees etc. whether to take the word of a local cop or the word of a 'stripper'.

    An older thread at discusses these issues in more detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Actually, where the 'real' motivation behind a club bust is election year headlines, it's not unheard of for undercover cops to attempt to gather evidence against every dancer in the club over a period of time ... which can eventually be used to make a 'wall to wall' club bust to generate big local news headlines at a later date ... like right before election day !

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    Ironically, the city the club is in is in fact having an election in about two weeks. Also I think the state governors election is also in two weeks. So maybe this is associated with cops going around every club in town trying to get people in trouble. I just wonder, if a raid does happen, will they only arrest girls who were there that night or would they actually go out of their way to come and arrest "suspicious" girls at home because the cop remembered their names and now is trying to "do the right thing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    Actually, where the 'real' motivation behind a club bust is election year headlines, it's not unheard of for undercover cops to attempt to gather evidence against every dancer in the club over a period of time ... which can eventually be used to make a 'wall to wall' club bust to generate big local news headlines at a later date ... like right before election day !

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    Ironically, the city the club is in is in fact having an election in about two weeks. Also I think the state governors election is also in two weeks. So maybe this is associated with cops going around every club in town trying to get people in trouble. I just wonder, if a raid does happen, will they only arrest girls who were there that night or would they actually go out of their way to come and arrest "suspicious" girls at home because the cop remembered their names and now is trying to "do the right thing".

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    Everything Mel said. I was arrested during a full raid in Florida. They took everyone in, dancers and staff, the undercover cops looked like straggly every-day dudes (it was a dive). Any contact during a lap dance, brushing your hands across your boobs on stage, basically anything that goes into stripping was technically illegal at the time. The charges were dropped however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chloemay View Post
    Everything Mel said. I was arrested during a full raid in Florida. They took everyone in, dancers and staff, the undercover cops looked like straggly every-day dudes (it was a dive). Any contact during a lap dance, brushing your hands across your boobs on stage, basically anything that goes into stripping was technically illegal at the time. The charges were dropped however.
    If you don't mind me asking, what was your charge? Was it a prostitution charge? Was your charge dropped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy_Jenny View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, what was your charge? Was it a prostitution charge? Was your charge dropped?
    I don't mind you asking. It was an obscenity charge, not prostitution and yes the charges were dropped.

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    In my experience, cops tend to be very blunt about asking "how much for sex?" Also, they don't drink alcohol if they are there on a bust. Of course, if you work in a juice bar, this won't matter. Other signs you are talking to a cop are mustache only and short haircuts. Check out his shoes, too. This may not be the best way to guage whether a customer is a cop, but cops wear very distinctive shoes. Similar to this style here: Name:  FQ0002034_LARGE.jpg
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    if a raid does happen, will they only arrest girls who were there that night or would they actually go out of their way to come and arrest "suspicious" girls at home because the cop remembered their names and now is trying to "do the right thing".
    Odds strongly favor any 'wall to wall' bust only involving the dancers who are working at the time the club is busted. From an election year news headline standpoint, this is really all that matters. Also, tracking down the real names and real addresses of other dancers, and attempting to bust them individually outside the club, would require a lot of time, energy, and work on the part of LE ... where a 'wall to wall ' bust of dancers working in the club is quick and easy ( with busted dancers essentially being forced to identify themselves to LE as the result of the inevitable 'wants and warrants' check ).


    It was an obscenity charge, not prostitution
    Generally speaking, while being charged with prostitution might seem worse than being charged with obscenity or public lewdness or violation of a local anti-strip club ordinance, in the vast majority of jurisdictions all of these different charges will similarly appear as a 'sex related' misdemeanor on the girl's permanent record. As such, the potential negative impact upon future straight job employers, on state professional licensing agencies, etc. will be similar. Also, in many jurisdictions, having the charges 'dropped' may not automatically remove the record of the arrest itself ( thus requiring the girl to retain an attorney to file a court motion to have her record 'expunged' ).

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    This is not on my record, but if it was I wouldn't care, being self-employed for life and all. As far as the cops appearance, they had long shaggy hair and flannel shirts on, not at ALL what you might expect. Looked more like hipster/druggies than cops. I did not do a lap dance for either of them, the charge was related to my actions on stage, which were nothing out of the ordinary. This was in a juice bar, nude. Also, I was released on my recognizance (sp?) having no warrants or issues of that sort which may have helped with it 'disappearing' so to speak.

    This was years ago too, so publicity will certainly be worse now that there are those 'Arrested!" papers and websites and such.
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    ^^Is good you mentioned that undercover cops exist, but what Tourdefranzia mentioned can also be the case as well.





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    So I think I'll "protect" myself by working low life days, such as Sunday's and Monday's and Tuesday's and Wednesday's during the day only. Of course there are no guarantees, but it's the best I can do for myself I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovelydancer View Post
    Dayshift raids can happen. However sometimes they will raid not because of girls doing things in the club they shouldn't, but to see if anyone has a warrant out (I've seen dancers get arrested this way).
    Can you explain please? Do you know if those warrants were from undercover cops who came before and decided to issue them warrants to arrest them later? Or were these warrant from girls commuting other crimes at other places?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy_Jenny View Post
    Can you explain please? Do you know if those warrants were from undercover cops who came before and decided to issue them warrants to arrest them later? Or were these warrant from girls commuting other crimes at other places?
    Specifically for other crimes that are not necessarily vice-related. The police can serve a warrant at your place of business/employment as well as at your home.

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    ^^^ it also provides LE with an 'excuse' to force all dancers to produce ID at the time of the bust ... which immediately provides LE with dancer real names, real addresses, real SS#'s etc.

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    The warrants I mentioned mostly were from other crimes commited outside of the club, but the dancers ended up getting arrested during the raid. A few were from Police dogs finding drugs on girls or in their lockers.

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    For anyone who's interested. I found out (for some it won't be much of a secret) that by law you can get charged with prostitution just because your butt dressed in thong touched the crotch of a customer wearing pants. Lap dance is an illegal activity in the state of Florida at least. So, if anyone get a hair up their ass, by law you are guilty.

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