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    Lately I've been noticing something. I like camming, but I don't think it's for me.

    What I mean by this is... I like chatting, being on cam, entertaining people and what not... but I'm still very uninterested in sexual activities.
    I don't know why I keep forcing myself to try to do more x-rated stuff. Money interests me, I guess. But I don't know...
    I feel like I want to keep doing this, but every time I look up non-nude camming on this site and on Google, everyone makes it seem like it's impossible or very hard to achieve success in. That latter I believe, but I still want to give it a go.
    Yes, I could use the money but this isn't my only source of income. I can always focus more on my art. Even if I never got a dime for doing this stuff ever again, I would probably still continue just because I feel like people are interested in me and what I have to offer (for once).

    Just looking for opinions out there on what I should do.

    Should I try non-nude camming? I wouldn't really have any sort of niche... that I can think of. I'm a gamer and like anime/"kawaii" stuff, so those would be the only things.

    I know MFC is the site to try if I should do that, but then again it's hard... and I haven't cammed in 8 months until recently, so I feel like a total newbie again.

    Is SM a no?
    What about Chaturbate or other sites?
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    sounds like ur in the wrong biz honestly. you sound like you enjoy the attention/interaction over the $...
    i would either do something where sexuality is not involved so much (like not on a cam site lol) or non nude camming with very strict rules....but honestly i think that is a bad idea because of what u said.
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    I want to have the best of both worlds, but it doesn't seem like I can have that.

    I want to try Twitch, but other than that, idk.
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    Yes! Try it! If you're going to be non-nude, MFC would give you the best chance at making good money. You can totally make that work there. There are a surprisingly high number of guys there who aren't there just to see your tits and who actually appreciate you as a person. A smaller number of guys have even told me they prefer non-nude rooms because they are shy and the nudity makes them uncomfortable. There is a niche for you, promise!

    I am like you, not interested in doing overly sexual stuff on cam. I get nude exceedingly rarely, but no masturbation. I call it "non-explicit", and the way I operate works for me lol. Just formulate a battle plan (MFC is not for the faint of heart lol) and try If you want a warm-up of sorts, try camming some on Chaturbate before trying MFC (it's the most similar site to MFC) first, because you want to try not to let that camscore drop right off the bat.

    I don't know how much you know about MFC or even about camming, but a couple of tips before you MFC:

    - Set a schedule, and keep it. Consistency is pretty much one of the hugest deals with MFC. If your audience never knows when they'll see you, they won't invest in you. Can't stress this enough.
    - Always try to give a shift 2 hours at minimum, because IME the first hour is about building the room, so you can't judge easily if it will be good or not at that point.
    - Pretty up your profile. Sometimes that's someone's first impression of you and as you know, we only get to make one of those!

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    Honestly you need to like sexual acts in work in the adult industry, that's the point of the industry. Even the non nude cam performers tease and dance. You could give it a try and see what happens, but the ones that really bank are the ones that love this job and arent afraid to be sexual.

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    I'll have to respectfully disagree with h0ttie. I think some of the best cam girls are the ones who truly enjoy what they do for reasons other than/in addition to money. Their passion shows and that's what makes them great to watch. If she enjoys the interaction over the money, what's the harm in that? I personally would never do this if I weren't getting paid LOL. Even though I do actually enjoy it some of the time.

    As a side note, do not let anyone tell you that you "have to" do the sexual stuff or get naked to make any money- because you DON'T. You define what camming is for YOU, not the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimKlass View Post
    I'll have to respectfully disagree with h0ttie. I think some of the best cam girls are the ones who truly enjoy what they do for reasons other than/in addition to money. Their passion shows and that's what makes them great to watch. If she enjoys the interaction over the money, what's the harm in that? I personally would never do this if I weren't getting paid LOL. Even though I do actually enjoy it some of the time.
    the possible harm in enjoying the interaction over the $ is cam customers can be assholes...she said she doesn't care so much about the money so to me it makes sense to go somewhere that she can have interaction/entertain, whatever where sexuality is not expected. (there are still places u can do that and make $ too)

    so ya..if any camgirl enjoys their job its great....if anyone enjoys their job its great..i think she just likes parts of camming but not camming itself.

    heres an example kinda...
    i get annoyed with people asking to see my tits all day...(But i actually want to show them for $$$$) sometimes if i dont show them in free chat or soon enough in pvt i get called bad names lol...so then if you take someone like OP that does not even care to do sexual stuff to begin with..it just makes the situation much more annoying.
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    I'll just note that I don't mind dancing and teasing. Just truly sexual acts just make me feel meh. I'm not scared to do it. I just feel blank inside when I do it. I'm not afraid of showing off my body either in an artistic sort of way?, that's why I had considered softcore, but I probably would at least attempt non nude on cb and mfc. I feel like I don't have nothing to lose if I try. If it doesn't work out, it's okay.

    @h0ttie: cam customers were assholes to me because I didn't do penetration lol.
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    if you want to be a non nude model i don't think chaturbate is gonna work for you maybe MFC but just like JaneBurgess said you need to be interested in sexual acts in this work. but yeah you can totally try twitch! i think its so cool i've always wanted to be a partner on twitch. you can give it a try. and you can also try being a non nude model on MFC. i say try them both and see what works for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    Honestly you need to like sexual acts in work in the adult industry, that's the point of the industry. Even the non nude cam performers tease and dance. You could give it a try and see what happens, but the ones that really bank are the ones that love this job and arent afraid to be sexual.
    Yup you gotta like sex or at least talking about it to be in it. IF your going just going through the motions like it sounds in your post then yea your not going to enjoy it and whatever little money you do make out of it will be hard to get.

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    If that's true, what about the nonnude girls I see on mfc doing basically nothing but chatting and making over 20k a month? The ones I watch are pretty innocent/vanilla.
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    Please list examples. I know many of the top performers on there and they do non nude on occasion, but they also do nudity too. I have never in all the years of camming Ive done seen any non nude cam performer make 20k without some type of sexual act including dancing or teasing.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sonikku View Post
    If that's true, what about the nonnude girls I see on mfc doing basically nothing but chatting and making over 20k a month? The ones I watch are pretty innocent/vanilla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonikku View Post
    I'll just note that I don't mind dancing and teasing. Just truly sexual acts just make me feel meh. I'm not scared to do it. I just feel blank inside when I do it. I'm not afraid of showing off my body either in an artistic sort of way?, that's why I had considered softcore, but I probably would at least attempt non nude on cb and mfc. I feel like I don't have nothing to lose if I try. If it doesn't work out, it's okay.

    @h0ttie: cam customers were assholes to me because I didn't do penetration lol.
    Sex acts on cam make me feel "meh" too. I mean, this is a job. We aren't suppose to necessarily love it and be genuinely into it. It's an acting gig. I mean I physically feel NOTHING when I'm on cam doing shows, it's like my vagina is just powered off. But the second I'm off cam and around my husband... yah it's all good. So maybe don't be so quick to think that sexual acts on cam aren't for you just because you feel "meh" doing them on cam, it's totally normal. You just have to be able to ACT like you are into it, and that can be the hardest part for a lot of people. BUT, you also cannot despise it either. You just have to have the right balance and the right mindset. I think this is what makes a lot of models either sink or swim, they can't get the mindset down right.

    If you are okay with showing your body off in a more artistic way, I think MFC would be a great option. You can be nude without doing cum shows and all that. It will be harder but if you have the right personality you should be okay. I would give it a shot and see how you do. If you don't NEED the money you really don't have anything to lose by trying it out.

    I would definitely stay away from pay per minute sites like SM though, because you're almost always going to be expected to do full sexual shows there. Yah, many people don't. But in general, that is what is expected versus places like MFC.
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    I don't think I can list names here, but two in particular are Asian girls.

    One of the girls would accept tips for panty color guessing or to have a guy pick a pair of panties to wear, but she would always change off cam. She was 3rd place in Miss MFC a couple months ago, I believe.

    But again, this type of stuff is innocent to me and yeah it is sexual, but it doesn't involve me thinking about sex if I were to do it.
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    Exactly. Ive seen non nude performers and they wore costumes in free chat, teased and danced around. They may not use sex toys, but they sure were sexual in a cute way. Even the fetish performers do some nudity from what I've seen.


    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    Yup you gotta like sex or at least talking about it to be in it. IF your going just going through the motions like it sounds in your post then yea your not going to enjoy it and whatever little money you do make out of it will be hard to get.

    You kinda gotta go 100 in this otherwise you will be left behind.

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    I could do that, but I don't think of it as sexual, but I also don't mind if someone else sees it as so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonikku View Post
    If that's true, what about the nonnude girls I see on mfc doing basically nothing but chatting and making over 20k a month? The ones I watch are pretty innocent/vanilla.
    I would really advise against looking to any of the super, super top girls on MFC. I think that most of them at least do nude shows in public, and even more I have seen do cum shows in public. Maybe they only do one a day or less, but they do them. It's very, very hard to make big bucks without being nude, that's why I think that looking to these very rare instances and thinking that is going to be easy or even realistically possible to achieve is a bad idea. And it has nothing to do with you personally, I'm talking about like, for any person going into camming looking to these girls is just a bad idea because the chances of any one person going into it and expecting or even hoping to end up like one of them is like... winning the lottery.

    Also, a lot of them have a few huge spenders and the rest are just the normal tippers. But, the whales are like regulars on SM, they make up the very large bulk of the money. And, it's even been said that some of them rig the system and even tip themselves to stay in the top and therefore give the perception of success so that others will want to tip them. Strange, but very possibly true.
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    Never thought of it that way. You're right, I never watch these girls from start to finish every time they're on.

    Well, that sucks lol.

    I guess twitch is my only option.
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    Give that a shot then. Do the cute costumes and some teasing. It never hurts to try something new and you may love it. I noticed that guys like girls that play kinda dumb too if you are into trying that out.


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    I could do that, but I don't think of it as sexual, but I also don't mind if someone else sees it as so.

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    I think it is possible to be a cam model without penetration of any kind not even fingers but you still have to be sexual. MFC is definitely the place for being a model like that...and if I were in your shoes...I would totally work that angle by using Virgin in your show name and dressing in Kawaii outfits and putting in your profile and room topic that you are a virgin and that you don't do any penetration. The guys will LOVE it. Use a persona that goes along with kawaii theme and you are set! Good luck to you and I know you can do it...this job is great like that! And work on your art as well! You can have your cake and eat it too!

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    Argh, I feel so conflicted. Thanks for all your responses so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    I would really advise against looking to any of the super, super top girls on MFC. I think that most of them at least do nude shows in public, and even more I have seen do cum shows in public. Maybe they only do one a day or less, but they do them. It's very, very hard to make big bucks without being nude, that's why I think that looking to these very rare instances and thinking that is going to be easy or even realistically possible to achieve is a bad idea. And it has nothing to do with you personally, I'm talking about like, for any person going into camming looking to these girls is just a bad idea because the chances of any one person going into it and expecting or even hoping to end up like one of them is like... winning the lottery.

    Also, a lot of them have a few huge spenders and the rest are just the normal tippers. But, the whales are like regulars on SM, they make up the very large bulk of the money. And, it's even been said that some of them rig the system and even tip themselves to stay in the top and therefore give the perception of success so that others will want to tip them. Strange, but very possibly true.


    Totally missed this post some how.

    Thank you for this. I've struggled with work ethic in the "real world" because I always feel like, if I don't love/like it, I'm not going to do it.

    I do need 1.8K if I want to go back to school next semester... so that's kind of the reason why I just wanna say eff it and do this all-in anyway.

    I think I may have just gotten discouraged today because my placement must be bad on SM because I haven't cammed in 8 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonikku View Post
    Totally missed this post some how.

    Thank you for this. I've struggled with work ethic in the "real world" because I always feel like, if I don't love/like it, I'm not going to do it.

    I do need 1.8K if I want to go back to school next semester... so that's kind of the reason why I just wanna say eff it and do this all-in anyway.

    I think I may have just gotten discouraged today because my placement must be bad on SM because I haven't cammed in 8 months.
    In the last few months, SM has changed their placement to where time online seems to be HUGE. Like, if I don't work several days in a row, I will fall down at least a row or two in placement. But, it's not just time online it's money made in that time you are online as well. So it's really a catch 22 because you need to be online to make money, but being online for a long time without making money will only hurt and not help! So, it sucks.

    I think this is why some people are starting to close their account and reopen a new one when they have taken a very long time off. That way they can be on the new model page again and just start over. Have you considered that?
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    i got the impression she (OP) liked being her real self on cam more than just doing what makes $/acting....maybe i am wrong?


    i think it comes down to what your goal really is OP? it might be better to do something like youtube or twitch? or u can figure out how to make non-nude camming work for u...only you really know


    anddd to elaborate on sarahs post kinda....
    i think the thing is....top cam girls make camming look really easy...and like they really enjoy it (and they may or may not....) but it is easy for new girls (not meaning just OP) but any girl to think camming is easier than it is when watching them.
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    I don't think OP is saying her customers need to be like, Enuchs who wouldn't dare get a boner in her room. She's saying, I think, she's okay with teasing. Not that she is gonna be all asexual on cam lol.

    OP, as someone who often makes a pretty penny while NOT ever doing the following; dirty talk, talking about my personal sex life or preferences, masturbating, or simulating any other sex act ... trust me, you could make it work on MFC doing exactly what you want to do. Try it, you can't lose.
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