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    Quote Originally Posted by justanothercamgirl View Post
    CrackRevenue is who MyFreeCams does their affiliate marketing through.
    http://blog.crakrevenue.com/mfc-stra...model-linking/
    MFC is EXTREMELY picky about affiliates unlike most cam site who will let anyone sign up & market for them.

    MFC does do charge backs but it is rare.

    It cost money to run an adult site, For those of you who arguing about the cost & traffic cost or the ability to get good traffic that converts into a sale. Go try to run your own pay site. TRY to get traffic & sales all on your own. See how hard it is. Go get a dose of reality.
    In fact, go build a site out. Go try to get billing. Pony up the money you need for Visa & mastercard.

    Go be independent & do the work it takes instead of bitching about SM.

    Let us get REAL if you don't have what it takes to do marketing & get that extra 40%/20% with your cammodel link then that should clue you in on how hard it is to get converting traffic.

    To dismiss the hard work it took for any model to make it to the top of ANY cam site is RUDE & WRONG! It is an open market, those who make it to the top put in the hours, the game, the hustle to make it there. Maybe you should find a way to up your game, just like they did.

    I see the top girls on SM putting in HOURS daily to get there. I don't but then I put in 20 to 35 hours a week on MARKETING!

    Many come here & take the time to write awesome advise. If you are NOT making the money you want or your placement sucks. Face it. that is ON YOU!

    Can tell you, EVERY single business that is either online or has a computer has glitches. Some maybe more than others, but shit happens. Been on SM & have to say I've had very few problems. But then I have good equipment & fast internet. When on Naked, I used to shut their servers down when it first started due to how many men were in my free chat.

    No site is perfect. No site is one size fits all. If you want to make more money with out splitting it with a site then go independent. Many ladies have done it successfully here & written about it. Admire them much for the time, money, investment & balls to do so.

    When we have options, there is NO REASON To bitch.

    Sam


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    I'll say it again... I fucking love this thread!





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    Default Re: This is why our cut is only 35%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Many come here & take the time to write awesome advise. If you are NOT making the money you want or your placement sucks. Face it. that is ON YOU!
    While I completely agree with the first point.....I do have to respectfully disagree with the second point.

    Streamate has been making a lot of coding decisions that in my personal opinion has ended up resulting in a code-base full of glitches. I have had regulars complain to me about how they are unable to stay in privates. My placement isn't something at this time which is entirely under my control. That being said, it doesn't really bother me since placement isn't everything.

    I have previously stated in this thread.....we are not employees of Streamate and we are independent contractors. Streamate is not the only game in town and it certainly isn't the Holy Grail of camming. As Sam has said beautifully.....if you aren't making the money you want then that is on you.

    Your focus determines your direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    When we have options, there is NO REASON To bitch.

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    Ain't that the truth! There are girls who are addicted to bitching, it's like an addiction. Bitching gets them attention. But as the fabulous Dolly Parton said:
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    Quote Originally Posted by justanothercamgirl View Post
    CrackRevenue is who MyFreeCams does their affiliate marketing through.
    http://blog.crakrevenue.com/mfc-stra...model-linking/
    Yah I shouldn't have said zero... But like Sam said, it's hard to promote MFC, and because of this they more likely than not pay very little to affiliates, where as SM relies heavily on affiliates therefore they have to have the budget for it, which understandably has an impact on our percentage.

    If the only changes SM made was to stop paying affiliates and raise our percentage to 50%, our incomes would go down. 35% sounds low and 50% sounds great but it's the whole "50% of $0 is still $0" thing.

    And again just to echo Sam, my husbands pay sites he used to run back in the day generated over half a million in his best year, how much do you think he pocketed? Who do you think the biggest chunk went to? Not him, not the models.... Affiliates. Then cost to operate aka servers, visa fees per transaction, etc.
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    Thanks to the ladies who could respond with their knowledge in a calm and collected manner. I'm not here to bitch about shit just here like the rest of us who like to collectively be a part of something. This thread is extremely insightful. I'll be leaving it now though and will definitely be looking up mfc's affiliate thing because I seem to be bringing in some traffic with my new Twitter account. Good luck guys much love

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    well the ranking system still seems pretty random and its impossible to get a real answer from the support. SM camgirl support is just.... dreadfully awful.
    To illustrate my point, the bitrate on my solo account is stock at 650 (good). But with the same equipement, i reach 800 (excellent) on my lesbian account. Go figures ?
    The MN (round trip time ) also go joyously from 100 (excellent) to 600 (poor), with no plausible cause. I do expect better result with an internet connexion with 40mb download and 10 mb upload....

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    well the ranking system still seems pretty random and its impossible to get a real answer from the support. SM camgirl support is just.... dreadfully awful.
    To illustrate my point, the bitrate on my solo account is stock at 650 (good). But with the same equipement, i reach 800 (excellent) on my lesbian account. Go figures ?
    The MN (round trip time ) also go joyously from 100 (excellent) to 600 (poor), with no plausible cause. I do expect better result with an internet connexion with 40mb download and 10 mb upload....

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    I love you Sam

    I do get the Streamate frustration tho. Its been two years of glitching on and off. When they did a major overhaul on the site it really fucked things up. It should have been fixed in two years, you know they have the funds to fix it. However you are 100 percent right, we can work on any cam site we want. I do Streamate occasionally now because the glitches annoyed me.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    MFC is EXTREMELY picky about affiliates unlike most cam site who will let anyone sign up & market for them.

    MFC does do charge backs but it is rare.

    It cost money to run an adult site, For those of you who arguing about the cost & traffic cost or the ability to get good traffic that converts into a sale. Go try to run your own pay site. TRY to get traffic & sales all on your own. See how hard it is. Go get a dose of reality.
    In fact, go build a site out. Go try to get billing. Pony up the money you need for Visa & mastercard.

    Go be independent & do the work it takes instead of bitching about SM.

    Let us get REAL if you don't have what it takes to do marketing & get that extra 40%/20% with your cammodel link then that should clue you in on how hard it is to get converting traffic.

    To dismiss the hard work it took for any model to make it to the top of ANY cam site is RUDE & WRONG! It is an open market, those who make it to the top put in the hours, the game, the hustle to make it there. Maybe you should find a way to up your game, just like they did.

    I see the top girls on SM putting in HOURS daily to get there. I don't but then I put in 20 to 35 hours a week on MARKETING!

    Many come here & take the time to write awesome advise. If you are NOT making the money you want or your placement sucks. Face it. that is ON YOU!

    Can tell you, EVERY single business that is either online or has a computer has glitches. Some maybe more than others, but shit happens. Been on SM & have to say I've had very few problems. But then I have good equipment & fast internet. When on Naked, I used to shut their servers down when it first started due to how many men were in my free chat.

    No site is perfect. No site is one size fits all. If you want to make more money with out splitting it with a site then go independent. Many ladies have done it successfully here & written about it. Admire them much for the time, money, investment & balls to do so.

    When we have options, there is NO REASON To bitch.

    Sam

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