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    I started working at a new club, where stage is a bit of a bigger deal than at my old club. My old club, I could easily pull $80-$150 on the 3 stages we had, but most people tipped $1-$5 tops. It was a lapdance club more so than a stage club, with lots of customers who usually showed their interest with a tip on stage. It was an urban/ Mexican club. I would go on stage maybe 2 or 3 times total throughout the whole night on a weekend.

    Now, I'm working at a smaller, "white" club. There are maybe 15 girls max on the weekends, and we go on stage upwards 6 times on a busy night, which is a lot for me. I am not a big fan of the stage, and I don't really do pole tricks. I'd prefer to be doing lap dances. But, people make it rain ALL the time at this club, and I see girls getting rained on a lot. Pole tricks aren't necessary here, and the girls who do pole tricks keep them pretty basic. It's more about their presence, I guess, because the ones who are getting tipped aren't even that impressive of dancers. I always get off stage and get lots of COMPLIMENTS on my dancing ability, but I'm making like $0 - $25 on stage.

    How can I UP my stage presence in this kind of club? It seems like the girls getting tipped on stage are average. It's humiliating to not get tipped anything, when I know I'm hot and I dance well, it makes me feel like no one is interested.

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    I find that eye contact really helps. The guys kinda feel obligated to tip if you look at them and smile or wave or something.
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    Default Re: Making stage more lucrative?

    If the girls getting such good stage $$ are 'average' at best, maybe sm of the tippers are regulars.

    How's your upper-body strength? One club I worked at had satellite stages that didn't have poles, & I am one of those girls who dances well but am lost w/o a pole. One nite I pulled a guy over who had come to tip me, put my feet on his shoulders & cranked out 10 pushups. He thought that was nifty so I made it a thing, & often when other guys saw that they would come up too, & either tip me to do pushups off of them too or just add a few bucks to watch me do it off sm1 else. Maybe a 'novelty trick' like that would be helpful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    I find that eye contact really helps. The guys kinda feel obligated to tip if you look at them and smile or wave or something.
    Definitely eye contact. Also consider your facial expressions -- you want to look like you're enjoying being on stage, which means either smiling (not grinning like an idiot the whole time, but flash a coy smile when switching up positions or making eye contact) or sultry eye fucking.

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    Ditto on the eye contact. I was on stage last night and had a bunch of non-tipping guys at the rail. Pretty much forced them to tip at least a couple bucks by making eye contact and getting close to them (pull my thong up so they can put a dollar in the band). I mean, making them uncomfortable by staring at me writhing around naked should be enough to force their hand into their pocket, right?

    Also, I've found (in my limited experience) that some nights there's just good energy in the club and people tip better. I can't do pole tricks or really anything fancy, but one night I made over $100 in one stage set because people were just having fun making it rain and throwing money on stage.

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    SHIT!! I tend to just not look at anyone on stage unless I am sitting with them. SO doing this now, oh my god.

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    Default Re: Making stage more lucrative?

    As far as your area, TR was never a big tip club for me. I would actually make better money on the upstairs stage. NT was a reeaaalllly good stage club. It's just the culture of the club you're in.

    Out of state and especially at really upscale clubs, stage tipping isn't even really a thing.

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    Eye contact and smiling definitely. I've also noticed that I get most stage tips when I'm legitimately having fun on stage. If I like my music and really get into it, stop caring if I'm getting tipped or not, I get rained on. I have a background in musical theater and dance so I'm a bit of a stage whore anyway and I love it.

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    The "I'm not a big fan of the stage" part is probably a good reason why you're not doing so well.

    Even if you're smoking hot and the single most graceful dancer in the city. If you're not having fun people can tell, it's an energy thing.

    Eye contact, some flirting, can both help a lot.
    When choosing music look for stuff that makes you feel awesome. Something that puts you in a fun happy, "you're ass is wigglin' without thinking about it music".
    Get your fun happy energy up.

    Also think of the stage as a sales platform. Sell dances from the stage.(there are a few threads on that here.) Can help to get your money up.
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    Oh, something i did tonight when a guy wanted to give me his number i said 'we can't accept numbers when there's so many people/cameras watching. i'll only accept it if you hide it in a tip.' So he gave me $10. Ha.
    Now that's thinking green!

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    Default Re: Making stage more lucrative?

    on the weekdays the guys seem to appreciate a more slow, sultry, intimate stage set. give the individual customers lots of attention, eye contact, flirting. on the weekends the customers seem to like a more high energy showmanship kind of stage set..be that pole work, booty work, floor work. choose music that appeals to the clientele. its about interaction too ..complimenting the female customers and showing them the attention when couples come in, joking with the groups of guys, etc. so yeah, i'd say interaction is so much more important than a graceful fluid stage set. you can be a great dancer but if you can't connect and work the crowd, it often doesn't count for much

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValentinaSF View Post
    I mean, making them uncomfortable by staring at me writhing around naked should be enough to force their hand into their pocket, right?
    Lolll omg this made me laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightGoddess View Post
    I started working at a new club, where stage is a bit of a bigger deal than at my old club. My old club, I could easily pull $80-$150 on the 3 stages we had, but most people tipped $1-$5 tops.
    Were you pulling that throughout the whole night or during one set? Just curious no threadjack lol.

    In my club the 'make it rainers' are sparse, even on weekends. Guys will sit at the stage, get one on one attention from a girl for no more than a few dollars. A lot of it is that they have been 'trained' poorly not to tip well b/c their dollar 'goes far' so to speak. In those instances, there isn't much to do except ignore that guy.

    Just a story... we had a feature last night do a spitting fire and all over body candle wax show, the tip rail was full and guess what? No tipping until the DJ started telling the customers to tip! So just remember, it's not you or your dancing, sometimes people really just...suck.

    Also I need to try a 'gimmicky' thing like push ups, too bad my arms are noodles lol!
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    ^Kiki, I was pulling the majority during my last stage set later on in the night which would be 3 songs on 3 different stages.

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    I have to say, sometimes it's the opposite of having fun that works... I have "resting bitch face" something fierce, and often some guy will come up and throw money on me because "You look bored, I thought I'd make it fun for you." Captain Save-A-Ho to a small degree... YMMV, obviously.

    I also sometimes take my sweet ass time up there, and it gets every eye glued to me. I take at least a full minute to wipe down the pole verrrrry slowly, spend another minute pulling my top (which covers my stomach) up halfway, another rolling my stockings down... etc.

    Simple pole tricks can go a long way too. I hang upside down and let the pole spin while I take my top off, and that usually brings at least one person up to the stage.
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    I haven't tried it yet but I was thinking it would be really hilarious to go up to guys on stage and tell them
    "were going to play a game....one dollar = one inch, now with your tip I want you to tell me how many inches you are *wink*" I feel like using this line to play off guys egos you could probably make $12 per guy. After saying this I doubt any guy is going to just tip $1 and in turn admit to only having a 1 inch penis Lol.

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    I notice guys tip more when other guys Are at the stage and now they are competing with each other for you attention or even just to show off in front of the other customers.

    Also if I haven't lined up a vip and I am called to go to do stage work first thing I do is go around and flirt and introduce myself to all the lone customers. Then when I go up at least one if not more get out their seats to come tip.

    But if guys are already at the stage then you may have to extract tips like get all in their eyesight and dance a little and hold out your garter. If they sit at the stage and gawk while I am dancing then I go over ask them where their dollars are at and 99% of the time they hand me money.

    Also if you are in mid hustle already sitting with a potential customer encourage him to come to the stage and watch / tip you vs. Leaving him by himself and open for another dancer.
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    You have to do a bit of pre-stage hustling. While you're waiting to go up, chat with the guys around the bar / stage / wherever. Target groups of guys, especially. Mention that you're going up on stage next - saying something stupid like "Hey! I'm going up next...would you mind paying me a visit while I'm up there?" goes a long way. Or even start a quick conversation ("Hey guys, are you having a great time?!" :partygirlvibes: followed by "Oh, sorry to interrupt! I have to go! It's my turn to get naked on stage!")

    You probably won't be able to 'convert' the guys who are already clustered around the stage, but this tactic definitely works if you're looking to draw more people to your stage. Remember, dancing is a lot like running a marketing campaign, with you as the brand. The more often people are exposed to a brand, the more likely they are to 'buy' the 'product.' Yeah, it feels a little awkward at first, but you'll come up with lines that work for you.

    It's difficult to get guys to like you based solely on how you dance - the girls who can do this tend to be acrobats, twerkers, etc. But if a customer has heard your voice and seen your face on the floor, they'll be much more likely to feel attracted to your stage performance.

    Also, hell yeah on the eye contact while you're on stage. Force yourself to look at people and smile. Eye contact can be one of the hardest parts of this job, which is why so many girls don't do it...and that's why it'll make you stick out if you can handle it. And don't rush around when you're on stage. Master your strut. Own your stage presence. I know how intimidating it can be to go on stage after someone who truly puts on a performance, but you have to own your style, whatever it is. Project confidence, and try to look like you're having a really good time. Hone in on the guys who seem to be really into you, and when you bend down to take a tip from them, start the hustle. "Hi..." (sexyvoice) ..."I'm _____...how are you? I'd love to get to know you better when I'm done up here..."

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    ^ Aussie clubs are so not tipping clubs- I think that its cultural to tip in the US. Not to say that guys never tip here buuuuttt, it sounds more common ver there to me.
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