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    His message was more about his power in the industry not anything physical. I was like WTF? And then when I got the email to meet again...Big WTF? Bipolar or just controlling?
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    I had a 'friend' like this a few years ago. Male.

    Similar behavior. He had major issues.

    He percieved things very differently and any break of the rules resulted in threats such as you mentioned. He tracked me down.

    Despite this his dearest wish was to spend more time with me. Provided I could apologise for my 'bad' behavior. I would be forgiven.

    Any interaction was better than none for him. Ignoring him worked best. No responses ever.

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    Hmmm.... interesting. I wonder if that is what brought about the latest request as ignored the email with the threat. I really wanted to respond but decided no response sent a stronger message. Thank you for your insight. At times this can be a very difficult world without someone just to listen and discuss real issues.

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    Didn't read whole thread, but here in the US most dudes will want to speak to the lady before the first meeting to confirm that they really are dealing with a female and not a pimp / manager / LE via text or email. But it osunds like it is much easier for everyone (Clients and ladies) to have a second 'hobby phone' here...


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    Thanks for the replies. It was good to hear why clients want a number to call.

    I will look at the different calling apps and find one that hides my details. In the meantime I am just going to stick to email.

    I do reply really quickly, call when asked and check email multiple times per day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heid009 View Post
    I used to have a work cell number as well as email.

    For new clients the no-show rate of those that make the first booking by phone was a minimum 40% (local guys are mostly cheap assholes where I am, and most foreigners book by email), which is normal for all girls in my area.

    But the no show rate of those that made the first booking by email the no show rate was 0%. They were also better clients.

    I don't know if this is the case where you are, but I find there are a lot of losers who have no intention of booking and get their jollies talking on the phone to you. I felt like I was working in a free call centre, and then of those phone calls only some make a booking, and get fewer actually show up.

    I agree it's best to have a cell number for regulars, but as aurora pointed out an email isn't too inconvenient these days.

    Don't believe that they are dropping you for not giving a ph number before you have met them. They were prob just entitled time wasters.
    I agree, my email clients are much better, I just prefer using my phone because then I can shut the fucking thing off and throw it in a desk when I can't deal with talking to them.

    Are you sure Austrailia has no prepaid SIM cards? I just find that hard to believe.

    If you've never seen these guys before though I would just ignore it, sounds like timewaster.

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    ^ Yeah we do have prepaid cards. I got rid of my 'work' phone because it started to become to much hassle.
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    Australia has pre-paid sims. But anti terrorist laws mean you need to show ID when buying it and activating it with the phone company.

    I will just ask a friend to buy and register it for me or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophieL View Post
    His message was more about his power in the industry not anything physical. I was like WTF? And then when I got the email to meet again...Big WTF? Bipolar or just controlling?
    Update- now he seems to be almost stalking me (virtually). I think he has found every pic/identity I have had to show up online. Every ad I place, he messages me about it. The last he went so far as to research a photographer I worked with several years ago and ask me if I was going to work with him again on a planned visit. I am not responding to anymore of his messages.

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    That is REALLY creepy. Sorry its happening to you. :S

    Aside from ignoring him, is there anything else you need to do?

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    straight talk wireless is at walmart I got a 3 month unlimited plan and phone for 150.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophieL View Post
    His message was more about his power in the industry not anything physical. I was like WTF? And then when I got the email to meet again...Big WTF? Bipolar or just controlling?
    Ughhhh my vote is both.


    My 2 cents- in my many years of stripping and escorting I have had some scary close shaves with creeps. Never give out your real name or address.


    What you might want to try is just getting a fake ID with your "Fake Real Name" and trick them that way. Even have some mundane things that go back to the "Fake Real Name" ploy (facebook page, gym membership card, etc.)

    I've noticed that creeps and stalkers have the kinds of personalities that obssess over always "one-upping" everyone around them and controlling everything, wanting to know everything.....They are emotionally children but mentally often clever enough to hunt people down or find ways to weasel info out of people.

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    Oh before I forget- I had a terrible crazy stalker-liar client when I was an escort. He pissed me off so bad, I quit taking his calls for months. LO and behold, he ended up calling me from another number and begging me to pay attention to him b/c he "couldn't get [my sexiness] out of his head." LUCKY for me I was half-asleep when I took his call. I told him I didn't remember him & he must have called the wrong person. Once I hung up I realized exactly who it was.....

    TL; DR - after ALL that bullshit he put me through, he had the nerve to call back and pretend he had never been a crazy pain in the ass. The easy thing to say is he is shameless, the honest thing is to say he is evil.

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    You can put in whatever name you want on straight talk.. walmart has it!
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    Oh this is just funny - one of my massage clients offered me $5o to blow him. I said no. He frowned and sulked and said $75... lol sweetheart. Its not a market!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    Ughhhh my vote is both.


    My 2 cents- in my many years of stripping and escorting I have had some scary close shaves with creeps. Never give out your real name or address.


    What you might want to try is just getting a fake ID with your "Fake Real Name" and trick them that way. Even have some mundane things that go back to the "Fake Real Name" ploy (facebook page, gym membership card, etc.)

    I've noticed that creeps and stalkers have the kinds of personalities that obssess over always "one-upping" everyone around them and controlling everything, wanting to know everything.....They are emotionally children but mentally often clever enough to hunt people down or find ways to weasel info out of people.
    That is a good idea. lol I have so many model personas and he found all of those. Interesting that he has not called/texted me but responded on the ad sites..thus leaving a direct trail.

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    Sophie, nowadays it is absurdly easy to root out multiple personas for a provider, especially if you use the same phone number and pictures in multiple places. Google image search is pretty powerful now and a lot of escorting clients use it to verify if a girl is the real deal or if her post may be fake. So sadly his "stalking" probably didn't take him all that much effort. Indeed, some escort customers make a game of trying to figure out who a girl is.

    The only thing that was a bit unusual, IMO, was his knowledge of your other date. I'm guessing that he and your other date are sharing information on a review site. I'm also guessing that his comments about his "power" come from his ability to impact you by posting a positive or negative review. I really can't stand guys like this, truth be told.

    Anyway, good luck as you work through all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Sophie, nowadays it is absurdly easy to root out multiple personas for a provider, especially if you use the same phone number and pictures in multiple places. Google image search is pretty powerful now and a lot of escorting clients use it to verify if a girl is the real deal or if her post may be fake. So sadly his "stalking" probably didn't take him all that much effort. Indeed, some escort customers make a game of trying to figure out who a girl is.

    The only thing that was a bit unusual, IMO, was his knowledge of your other date. I'm guessing that he and your other date are sharing information on a review site. I'm also guessing that his comments about his "power" come from his ability to impact you by posting a positive or negative review. I really can't stand guys like this, truth be told.

    Anyway, good luck as you work through all of this.
    Semi-threadjack- this is so true, this is also why I tell dancers and escorts to never show their faces in pics, watermark and cover unique tattoos.....It sucks but there are people out there with nothing better to do but collect pix and circulate them as long as possible.

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    ^^^
    Yes, I know he has found out quite a bit by searching thru watermarks on pics. Although I have always asked photographers not to tag me, put me on their websites, etc. But they still do. For years, I have googled myself to find pics an stuff and asked to have it removed not always with success.
    As far as him talking to others I am unsure if another hobbyist or escort. It was at a party. I did not mention any of it to anyone else. A new message this weekend about some trips I had posted- wanting details. So far I have ignored this message. But I need to advertise and he is following everything I post...grrrrr

    His references were great from top ladies, lots of referrals. Nice up to that point for the most part. A little pushy wanting to talk on phone prior to meeting and I almost called it off because of that. This just goes to show how people can hide their true colors.

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    When I need to laugh a little bit about the crazies I was exposed to as an escort, I picture a bunch of losers in a computer room like on "NCIS" combing through Internet pics and ads, running software on ad text and things like that. Considering what I have heard and seen, it's the only way I can mentally process this issue without having a freak-out

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    It is honestly very childish behavior from an educated adult. Which explains why he is single. Sheesh...While I need to place ads it does make me hesitant to inadvertently let him know where I will be traveling and what professional events attending.

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    Have you no one who would be OK to set up a prepaid for you? I use one for work clients and it is in someone else's name who set it up at my request after explaining what it was for. He's unlikely to have any issues with clients if they track him down. The problem will be theirs....
    This is what the.... ahem... procurers of goods of a "party" nature generally do. Surely there's plenty of uni students or unemployed out there who would register a SIM for someone if you offered to swing them a $50.

    If the person is not trusted or would be a risk to reveal your info... I would go with a random instead. Someone who could not give your details no matter what they are offered.

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    No, I don't unfortunately.

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    Ok so I am encountering a few more problem clients lately.

    Some guys meet me at the parlour, book me and then act disinterested and sulk through out the booking. its uncomfortable. They then often ask for cheap extras. Insultingly cheap. Or just sulk till its over.

    I have 90% happy clients and work hard.

    I don't get it. They obviously liked me enough to book me? What is going on?

    The other group I am about to stop seeing is Indians or younger guys. They are disportionately a bad experience. They are rough, aggressive and insult me if I refuse to give cheap extras. Tantrums and I paid so I own you attitudes. Plus they always try to bully me into seeing them outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amberlly View Post
    Ok so I am encountering a few more problem clients lately.

    Some guys meet me at the parlour, book me and then act disinterested and sulk through out the booking. its uncomfortable. They then often ask for cheap extras. Insultingly cheap. Or just sulk till its over.

    I have 90% happy clients and work hard.

    I don't get it. They obviously liked me enough to book me? What is going on?

    The other group I am about to stop seeing is Indians or younger guys. They are disportionately a bad experience. They are rough, aggressive and insult me if I refuse to give cheap extras. Tantrums and I paid so I own you attitudes. Plus they always try to bully me into seeing them outside.
    Yeah I'd screen all those out....I noticed Middle Eastern men act a lot like what you describe Indian guys to be like...it's cultural & sad. Before I was a dancer I experienced this from a male Indian boss of mine, it was a horrible experience.

    (PS Please no one call me racist, I have to admit we deal with some unique situations in the adult biz that require avoiding problematic scenarioes...for the good of all involved.)

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    I agree. Its mainly that group that I have problems with. Maybe 1 out 20 is ok. stuff the money I seriously don't want to deal with them ever again.

    Old white corporate clients - who are otherwise attached all the way!
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