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    Default I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    I need your help, girls. So, please, bare with me.

    I was doing just fine on SM since I started two and a half years ago. I managed to move in my own aparment, start a normal life, etc. I had rough times, but I was always make money for food, money for the aparment and everything I needed and couldn't live without.

    Since last week everything went downhill for me. I am crying almost every day since that day and I just can't stop crying because I know I will have to move back with my parents and live with them and be jobless for... I don't know how long. And I will need to drop out of college.

    I don't know why and how but I just stopped making money. ANY money. Since last week - I made 0 dollars in total. I don't know why - I am not doing anything I wasn't doing before, I am just - me, like I've been for all this time. Nothing has changed - I look nice, flirty, smile, talk to custies and everything... But no one is taking me private. At all. Less and less guys are talking to me even. And I just don't know why. I can't seem to make ANY money, let alone enough money to get me throught the month. And I can't seem to find a reason why is that so. I really don't want to go back home and live with my parents. The thought of that devastes me and makes me cry just by thinking about it.

    I need any advice I can get from you... I need a reason why this is happening to me right now. Right now when everything in my life is in order and I was finally happy. I can't sleep, I can't eat, I can't stop thinking about it... And my bf isn't being helpfull at all - he blames it all on me and says that I should've worked harder when I was making good money... It devastest me, because I don't have anyone to talk to... No one to conffess to, or ask for any help.

    In no time - I'll ran out of all my money, I will not have anything to eat or any money for gas even. It's really critical... And I just need 200 dollars to get me throught the month and I can't even get that. I don't know what to do, girls. I can't stop crying, I have panick attacks, I can't go out of the house and act normal... I just... Can't. It's so tough and hard... My life is falling apart bit by bit and I can't do anything to stop it. I can just watch and cry.
    I promised myself I would never go back home... And now, after a year of living on my own... I will have to...

    Why is this happening to me? What can I do to change it? Please, anyone, please... I need your help. It's gotten to the point where I want to end my life and just give up.

    I would be so grateful if anyone could help me...

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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    Dont cry BB

    I went through something similar and realized it was my router and modem. Have you checked your stream? Checked your audio? Checked your placement?

    I understand what you are going through because I was there and Im just now getting my excitement for camming back and making the money I once made. Please don't let this ruin your motivation because this might be a simple fix but a cam depression is harder to come out of. Keep you head you luv!
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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    OK. Calm down. c-c-c-c-calm. down.

    Streamate has been having horrible issues lately with glitches and placement. I've been working for two months only and I can see how it's a hit and miss these days there.... so probably #1 would be adding another good site to your work, only to take off the pressure from having to make it work with glitchy SM.

    #2 is that it sounds like you're having some sort of anxiety episode. As such maybe you think you're doing the same things as always, but likely you're giving off all the wrong vibes on cam without you even noticing, or even making it worse when you try to perk up. I'm just guessing here, but that would be a reason why you have been at zero for some days.

    #3 I know the panic that comes with that 'having to go back'. You're not there. You won't need to. You'll fix this. You can do it. You've done it before! So even if now it seems impossible take a breather, re-evaluate, look for some place else to make money from --content, pso, other sites, harrass your regulars for skype shows. See what you can sell if you need cash: car, tv, silver/gold jewelry, etc. that can buy you some time.

    specially and #1 cccccalm. down. I've been where you are and you need to stop and chill a second.... beating yourself up is only making it worse.

    Long, drawn hug. <3


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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    Dear SexyLittleThing,
    I don't know what to say but I just want to give you a big hug! Is SM your only site? If it is, you should try other sites or get a part time vanilla job so you can be partially cover with bills. Sometimes life just happens without a reason why but I hope you can find comfort in knowing that things don't always have to you, they happen for you.
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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    Thank you for your kind words. They mean a lot <3

    I have checked everything - my stream is fine, HD is on, audio is on... Everything is like it always was. I just don't know what to do anymore.


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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    It sounds to me like that thought of not being able to make money and having to go back to your parents is a constant thought in the back of your mind. Whether you know it or not, if that is bothering you and you are constantly worrying over that, that is causing negative vibes from you and your customers can sense that- meaning less money. An old saying in this business is you never seem to make money when you need it most, well this is why.

    At this point, all I can say is to keep trying, don't think negative, just get online, be happy, and don't let things bother you when you get into your work mode. Don't even think about money. Sign on, and go with the flow in your work persona where your "real world" doesn't exist. See if that helps.

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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    Thank you, girls.

    I can't find a vanilla job... That's just an impossible thing for me (don't know why). I can't even be a waitress, no one wants to hire me... Again - I don't know why. That's why I turned to camming and was happy about it. I am only doing SM, because I can't stand MFC. C4S is out of the question for me also. I can only try some other websites, then again - SM was that one site I loved and literally lived off this entire time. But if it's time to move on... I will, I have to.

    Surely I am having a panic attack, I just don't want for it to get any worse. But when I'm sitting there for 4+ hours with no one even talking to me - I just don't know what to do anymore. I'll look into other sites, that's the least I can do. I have some free time this week and can concentrate on that. Or work some other times. My custies don't visit me and that is a bit odd, I don't see anyone familiar in my room, just a bunch of new guys...

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    Get online after working out, that helped me.

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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    I would try a a new site out. A lot of performers have said they either arent making money on there or their income is way down.
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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    Apply for a whole bunch of sites.Just to makes ends meet .Right now im making a little bit everywhere to meet my weekly goal.Heres a few sites u can work while working Streamate cuz they dont require freechat.
    NITEFLIRT
    ADULTWORK
    IMLIVE
    CAM MODEL DIRECTORY (INDY)
    LOVESHOOKS SITE (INDY)

    ALSO APPLY AND TRY
    MYFREECAMS (TOKENSITES)
    CHATURBATE (TOKEN SITES)

    Also try making clips at clips4sale.Good luck sweetie.Dont worry you got this.Just keep logging on and keep your head up

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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    Firstly. Stop saying "I can't". I saw that way too many times in your post. Get on a ton of indy/phone sex sites and keep trying. It's Nov 5th so you have at least 3 weeks to hustle that $200. If you need food get up early in the morning and go to the pantrys in your city. They are giving out food for free, especially now that Thanksgiving is around the corner and they give out food first come first served (or by appointment) every single day. Check to see on your end what's wrong, get feed checks, change your prices, etc. You can get out of this hole you just have to stop saying I can't and I can, I will, I must, instead Good luck bb!
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    You have plenty of time to make a clips4sale store and trust you can make the $200+ IF YOU DO IT RIGHT. Please don't give up


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    Thank you, girls.

    I can't find a vanilla job... That's just an impossible thing for me (don't know why). I can't even be a waitress, no one wants to hire me... Again - I don't know why. That's why I turned to camming and was happy about it. I am only doing SM, because I can't stand MFC. C4S is out of the question for me also. I can only try some other websites, then again - SM was that one site I loved and literally lived off this entire time. But if it's time to move on... I will, I have to.

    Surely I am having a panic attack, I just don't want for it to get any worse. But when I'm sitting there for 4+ hours with no one even talking to me - I just don't know what to do anymore. I'll look into other sites, that's the least I can do. I have some free time this week and can concentrate on that. Or work some other times. My custies don't visit me and that is a bit odd, I don't see anyone familiar in my room, just a bunch of new guys...

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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    Your boyfriend should really keep his negative mouth shut & not blame you for having not worked "hard enough"... srsly.
    He can be doing something useful, like "fluffing" you for cam. My husband does that for me when I don't feel sexy or flirty... he'll sit behind cam (or even in chat) and make me laugh. Turn me on. ANYTHING TO HELP bring in money. Cuz he knows what guys like. And I'm sure your BF could help you in the same way if he was willing. it sounds weird, but it's a suggestion to really get your game going.

    I agree with the others who say its most likely your anxiety and stress over monetary goals that is affecting your income. ^ getting your endorphins going (exercise... sex..) helps me tremendously to get the mood going. no need to front a good attitude on cam when it just comes naturally.

    hugggggs. think positive thoughts, you got this!
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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    I understand you original poster are somewhere in Europe so not sure what options you have regarding getting food for free there, if available in your country? I also read u cant sell clips, is this a matter of no bank account available (u maybe work with payoneer only?) or maybe u dont wanna deal with the checks they send? Pls know babes, clips4sale is not convenient for non western models cause they only send checks here or wire transfer for the price of $40 per transfer, is too much for us.
    Also i read u OP cant hold a normal job due to some disability u have or health condition or what is the reason? You live all alone there, NOT with your boyfriend? If he lives with you, cant he support u financially till u get out of this situation? Or if u live all alone cant he help at all? SM got very slow/ bad for alot of us, i am not making the money i used to make either but i still get business rolling, more or less. I would say try other sites that accept you & u can work with (depending on their payment methods), splitcam if possible, maybe change the hustle if u can, try different approach, there are options. Please note u'll have good exposure & traffic if u sign up for new sites, try to take advantage of the new model tag but dont sign up on all sites at once, try one by one, see what works and what not.

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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    Thank you girls for all your advice, it helped a lot.

    I was having a panick attack yesterday and it was literally getting hard to breathe for me. I will try other sites. I know many of you suggested c4s, but as one girl said - they offer only checks (I can't cash a check here where I live) and they offer wire transfer and take 40 dollars from it. I tried it once and it didn't really turn out well for me, so I decided to quit. I'll try my best to look into other sites (I did this before). I tried MFC a while back - still, no money. And token based sites are really not for me, not my thing and I can't pretend for that long that I'm enjoying something, when I'm not.

    I'll go for other sites like Streamate, I was looking into Adult Work for quite some time now and I like the concept. Anyways, my stress levels are high and I just hope I don't fall back to my old paterns and start drinking again, over eating, etc. That will not be good for me.

    As for my boyfriend - I have no words for him. I was really disappointed in him and the way he acted. On top of that - no, he won't lend me any money, because I am in a little bit of a debt with him and he has lend me money in the past. And no, he won't let me live with him at all (if he did - that would literally solve many of my problems and I think I could get enough money to pay him off and to resolve all my problems. But that is up to him, not me).

    Vanilla jobs are out of the question. Even if I could get a vanilla job - I would have to work 12 hours shifts and then hope I would get payed. It's almost impossible to get payed here. The employeers treat us like garbage here and it has become normal for them not to pay us our money, it's a really complicated situation and I know that that's not the case in developed countries, but it is here.

    Bottom line is - I have to calm down and not give up. I have no other option really. I don't want to go back home, I know I don't have to. I just have to suck it up and keep trying. If it was working for me this far - there's no reason it won't get better again, right? I just need to give it time.

    Thank you, girls. Thank you so much. If you have any more advice for me - please, please, please share it with me.

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    Default Re: I can't seem to make any money on SM anymore. Why?

    I was making good money on streamate and ended halfway up the first page before the money almost stopped. The moment I started making less than 1/5 of what I was, I knew it was time to leave. I'm not sure what changed but I can guess it was my patience with trolling assholes that didn't talk to you and you never knew when you'd be taken private but when you did get taken sometimes the guys in private end up being worse than the trolls. After I had gotten my last insult in private about how my tits were floppy I was fucking done. I went straight to MFC and I'm glad I did because even when I'm having a slow day there my regulars are right there still having fun with me. And that's when the money rolls in, when you're having fun. I know you said that site doesn't work for you but there are plenty of other sites like streamate. I haven't tried cams.com but it seems to be the next best thing to streamate. I also agree about applying to all of the Indy sites mentioned here since you have a hard time with free chat. Keep your head up, and exercise, yes that helps my anxiety too. It's something about the endorphins that rush through your body that make things a little easier to cope with
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    Where are you from?

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    I had just as much fun on SM, just like you have on MFC. I love my custies and I enjoy talking to just random guys - it's fun, fun, fun But now... No one even talks to me and I can't keep smiling after a few hours of staring at the screen, it's just impossible. I never had any bad experiences like you did (I am sorry to hear that). Everyone is so nice and friendly to me on SM. When I tried MFC, no one talked to me even, I tried it for a week and it was a total waste of time for me. I'll try other sites, but I think I got too comfortable with SM. Maybe it'll pick up. I won't give up on SM, but will look into and apply to other sites, just in case.

    Excercise is the best - I agree on that. But the anxiety is really high right now. It looks like I will have to battle myself on this one.
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    The worst case scenario - I will still have a roof over my head and food to put into my mouth. I won't end up on the street, homeless... So, I will not panick again, nothing is to horrible and everything always works itself out.

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    Where are you from?
    I'm from Czech Republic.

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    OK, just so I know what welfare is available...

    I'm so sorry you're struggling like this. I was there at the beginning of the summer and I cried and cried thinking I was going to have to give away my cat, move to a different place, all of it. I set up on a different website and I rewrote my profile on the original site I was on, as well as changing my biopic and adding more photos.

    Adultwork is a good site to set yourself up on, as another girl said. You don't do free chat, so you can download split cam software (many threads on here about it) and log in, and just wait for calls to come through. It costs nothing to set up on there, and new girls, and eastern European girls, do well on there; you seem to speak decent English so I think you might do OK on there. Adultwork is flushed with new girls all the time, so try to make sure you don't get lost amongst it, but you have nothing to lose by going there.

    Like you, and many other girls, I struggle with anxiety and self doubt. When I have a quiet week I cry in front of the mirror thinking I'm ugly, fat, boring and pathetic. My money is a direct reflection of my self worth sometimes, even though I know it isn't healthy. Taking a break from the computer, for an hour to read a book or watch a stupid film helps me a lot, and I can come back with a fresh smile. Wearing lipstick helps as even when I look like I've just been dug up, I have a winning smile!

    I hope you find something in there which can help you.

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    On AW you can earn passive income from private gallery and movie sales. All mine are amateurish and done with no editing on a webcam. You don't need to be a pro to earn money from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beauvoir View Post
    OK, just so I know what welfare is available...

    I'm so sorry you're struggling like this. I was there at the beginning of the summer and I cried and cried thinking I was going to have to give away my cat, move to a different place, all of it. I set up on a different website and I rewrote my profile on the original site I was on, as well as changing my biopic and adding more photos.

    Adultwork is a good site to set yourself up on, as another girl said. You don't do free chat, so you can download split cam software (many threads on here about it) and log in, and just wait for calls to come through. It costs nothing to set up on there, and new girls, and eastern European girls, do well on there; you seem to speak decent English so I think you might do OK on there. Adultwork is flushed with new girls all the time, so try to make sure you don't get lost amongst it, but you have nothing to lose by going there.

    Like you, and many other girls, I struggle with anxiety and self doubt. When I have a quiet week I cry in front of the mirror thinking I'm ugly, fat, boring and pathetic. My money is a direct reflection of my self worth sometimes, even though I know it isn't healthy. Taking a break from the computer, for an hour to read a book or watch a stupid film helps me a lot, and I can come back with a fresh smile. Wearing lipstick helps as even when I look like I've just been dug up, I have a winning smile!

    I hope you find something in there which can help you.
    Thank you so much for your kind words. I was nodding my head while I was reading your post.

    Especially the self doubt part - I am even starting to think that I gotten too fat, or ugly, or that I'm not attractive at all anymore... As you said - my money is a direct reflection of my self worth. It saddenss me so much sometimes. I will try my best to get out of this state of mind I'm in right now. I am not doing myself any good by thinking like that. Everything in life happens for a reason... And this too shall pass, eventually.

    Thank you one more time.

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    I am so sorry you are going through this but I know you can turn it around . There's lots of really good advice already given here, these ladies are awesome! The one thing that leapt out at me in your op was this:
    Quote Originally Posted by SexyLittleThing View Post
    I am not doing anything I wasn't doing before, I am just - me, like I've been for all this time. Nothing has changed
    Sometimes the 'same old same old' can get a bit stale/boring. It might be worth you changing it a bit? Not massively, sometimes the smallest changes can make the biggest difference. Have you tried changing your profile pic? Maybe alter the description a little? I don't know what prices you are charging but maybe increase them? again only by a few cents, little changes but don't be tempted to drop. Deffinatley add other sites, it's always best to have more eggs in the basket I know all the succesful ladies will be working more than one site and have more than one stream of revenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexyLittleThing View Post
    I need your help, girls. So, please, bare with me.

    I was doing just fine on SM since I started two and a half years ago. I managed to move in my own aparment, start a normal life, etc. I had rough times, but I was always make money for food, money for the aparment and everything I needed and couldn't live without.

    Since last week everything went downhill for me. I am crying almost every day since that day and I just can't stop crying because I know I will have to move back with my parents and live with them and be jobless for... I don't know how long. And I will need to drop out of college.

    I don't know why and how but I just stopped making money. ANY money. Since last week - I made 0 dollars in total. I don't know why - I am not doing anything I wasn't doing before, I am just - me, like I've been for all this time. Nothing has changed - I look nice, flirty, smile, talk to custies and everything... But no one is taking me private. At all. Less and less guys are talking to me even. And I just don't know why. I can't seem to make ANY money, let alone enough money to get me throught the month. And I can't seem to find a reason why is that so. I really don't want to go back home and live with my parents. The thought of that devastes me and makes me cry just by thinking about it.

    I need any advice I can get from you... I need a reason why this is happening to me right now. Right now when everything in my life is in order and I was finally happy. I can't sleep, I can't eat, I can't stop thinking about it... And my bf isn't being helpfull at all - he blames it all on me and says that I should've worked harder when I was making good money... It devastest me, because I don't have anyone to talk to... No one to conffess to, or ask for any help.

    In no time - I'll ran out of all my money, I will not have anything to eat or any money for gas even. It's really critical... And I just need 200 dollars to get me throught the month and I can't even get that. I don't know what to do, girls. I can't stop crying, I have panick attacks, I can't go out of the house and act normal... I just... Can't. It's so tough and hard... My life is falling apart bit by bit and I can't do anything to stop it. I can just watch and cry.
    I promised myself I would never go back home... And now, after a year of living on my own... I will have to...

    Why is this happening to me? What can I do to change it? Please, anyone, please... I need your help. It's gotten to the point where I want to end my life and just give up.

    I would be so grateful if anyone could help me...
    Don't cry hun...I totally understand where you are coming from. It is more common than you may think. I have been thinking the same thing in regards to camming. It definitely can be a fickle business, so I am trying to look into finding other sources of income. Even though I a registered on a few site, I have made the dreaded mistake of depending on one site to live off of. Now that I am not doing well on that site I also feel somewhat backed into a corner. Please try not to get down about it, you never know one day or even one customer can turn everything around. Until then keep your head up and also look into additional ways to earn some money.<<<Hugs>>>>

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    Excuse me for saying this, but you BF sounds like a huge bag of dung right now. You're actually better off if you don't move in with him, you don't need him!

    Going back to the SM thing, I really do think you need to try another place, asap. Who knows, maybe your profile got caught in a super glitch from hell and custies cannot see you anymore, cannot take you private, or you're just not showing up. If you change sites and it starts working, your confidence will come back in a flood and those feel-good times will come back! good luck today!

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