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    At the club i go to, a 30 minute VIP dance is 155 dollars. Now I have a few questions that i will really appreciate it if you ladies could answer it.

    First of all, I was asked twice if I wanted to do 30 minutes at the VIP by 2 older dancers. When I heard that it is 155 dollars, I couldn't help but think that this is actually a very bad deal for the girls. Because if they get half of that money, that is only 70-80 bucks, which is only like 2 dances, and they have wasted 30 mins.

    So my first question is, do dancers really want us customers to do the 30 minute VIP with them, or is it just something that they are required to ask by the club? If the latter is true, then I will decline those in the future.

    My second question is, if I do a 30 minute VIP dance with a girl for 155 dollars, how much should I tip? The last time, I tipped 40 dollars on top of the 155. Is that too much or too little?

    and lastly, should I tip the bouncer standing outside? If so, how much?

    thanks for taking the time to answer those 3 questions. I really would like to know.

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    Default Re: 30 minute VIP questions pls help

    Part of this will depend on the club's cut vs the dancer cut. I have worked at one club that took 50% of all rooms, & clubs that just took closer to 20%, & a couple that would say $XYZ is the base price but you can charge on top of that. This applies to LDs as well, altho the LD prices are typically set by the club & it's just a matter of how much the club takes from them.

    The dancer is under NO obligation by the club to sell rooms, IME. Drinks, maybe, if they have a drink commission setup, but I have nvr seen a club that pushPushPUSHes the dancers to sell rooms the way sm of them push drink sales. Maybe other girls can chime in on that if they have experienced that kind of setup.

    Sm clubs, frankly, simply have a piss-poor VIP arrangement. A good salesgirl will find ways around that, if there are any, or just stick w/ pushing for normal LDs if those are really the more reliable sell.

    A $40 tip on top of $155 sounds like roughly 25% -- sounds good to me, esp if you were pleased w/ the experience your dancer provided!

    I have only rarely seen a customer tip a bouncer appropriately, bc the customer saw him do smtg to deserve it i.e. Removing an uninvited, intrusive girl or dealing w/ another problem customer. Idk how much the bouncers received in those cases, as I am extremely close abt $$ & find it very rude to discuss what other ppl make. I guess the amt would depend on the occasion or action, but as just a 'Thnx for being available if the fur flies!' kinda thing? I think a $10 note would be a good start. Sadly, most of the clubs I have worked either didn't require tipping-out for bouncers, or the min was disgustingly low for guys who actually cared abt the dancers they were there to protect.

    Honestly, when it comes to tipping bouncers, I have seen customers do it much more frequently w/ the intent of being 'left alone' -- I guess you would call it more of a bribe than a tip

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    Let the girl decide if its worth it to her. Personally, I wouldnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniela View Post
    Part of this will depend on the club's cut vs the dancer cut. I have worked at one club that took 50% of all rooms, & clubs that just took closer to 20%, & a couple that would say $XYZ is the base price but you can charge on top of that. This applies to LDs as well, altho the LD prices are typically set by the club & it's just a matter of how much the club takes from them.

    The dancer is under NO obligation by the club to sell rooms, IME. Drinks, maybe, if they have a drink commission setup, but I have nvr seen a club that pushPushPUSHes the dancers to sell rooms the way sm of them push drink sales. Maybe other girls can chime in on that if they have experienced that kind of setup.

    Sm clubs, frankly, simply have a piss-poor VIP arrangement. A good salesgirl will find ways around that, if there are any, or just stick w/ pushing for normal LDs if those are really the more reliable sell.

    A $40 tip on top of $155 sounds like roughly 25% -- sounds good to me, esp if you were pleased w/ the experience your dancer provided!

    I have only rarely seen a customer tip a bouncer appropriately, bc the customer saw him do smtg to deserve it i.e. Removing an uninvited, intrusive girl or dealing w/ another problem customer. Idk how much the bouncers received in those cases, as I am extremely close abt $$ & find it very rude to discuss what other ppl make. I guess the amt would depend on the occasion or action, but as just a 'Thnx for being available if the fur flies!' kinda thing? I think a $10 note would be a good start. Sadly, most of the clubs I have worked either didn't require tipping-out for bouncers, or the min was disgustingly low for guys who actually cared abt the dancers they were there to protect.

    Honestly, when it comes to tipping bouncers, I have seen customers do it much more frequently w/ the intent of being 'left alone' -- I guess you would call it more of a bribe than a tip
    K thanks that helps. I'll give the bouncer 10 the next time i do this because he is always very nice and I didn't tip him the last time.

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    Default Re: 30 minute VIP questions pls help

    Tips no matter how small/large are always appreciated. Again - when it is just a thank you rather than a bribe.

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    Default Re: 30 minute VIP questions pls help

    It depends on their cut. At my home club half hours were $150 but we kept $125 plus tips. At this club half hours are $350 but we only keep $150 plus tips. If I find a guy who really likes me I will usually try to push for as many $30 dances as possible over VIP since I keep a higher percentage of those, BUT it's still sometimes easier to sell one big chunk of time over trying to push more dances. I usually get $50-$100 tip for VIPs/Champagne rooms but all tips are appreciated.

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    Not worth that kind of money! so no!
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    Default Re: 30 minute VIP questions pls help

    i dont think i've ever worked at a club that REQUIRED that we do a set number of vips, girls usually like them because they know they will walk out with 100/200/300/etc instead of doing dances where the guy could stop after the first one. its more guaranteed.
    there's no way of knowing how much the girls take, but if she's pushing for it, it must be worth it to her.
    tips are always appreciated, 10-20%
    i don't see customers tipping bouncers unless its because they want the bouncer to "take a walk" while doing something against the rules, so when a guy tips the bouncer i always get edgy

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    Default Re: 30 minute VIP questions pls help

    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    i don't see customers tipping bouncers unless its because they want the bouncer to "take a walk" while doing something against the rules, so when a guy tips the bouncer i always get edgy
    Exactly. IME the only one reason a customer gives a VIP manager/host/door bouncer a serious tip and that is so that he finds something else to do for 15+ minutes.

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