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    Plenty of whining and cussing. Be prepared.

    I'm on felony probation. I understand that a lot of you may have just formed a pretty strong opinion about me based off that simple statement and I understand that. I wont go in to detail but I will say it is a situation where I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I personally did not commit a crime, I just so happen to fucking exist when the crime was committed so I got brought down along with the person who actually committed the crime. Believe that or don't, it's not the point- no matter the circumstance, I am now a convicted felon and I'm on probation. My felony is 98% of the reason I became a camgirl, I can't find work for any more than $7.50 an hour and to get that petty $0.25 raise from minimum wage was harder than convincing a Republican that Obama is perfect. (I don't hate Obama NOR Republicans..) I found that camming made "easy" money for me. By "easy" I mean more than minimum wage so I'm thrilled to do whatever it takes. My Probation Officer found out what I do. I have no idea how or why but she now knows. Today she proceeded to lecture me about how the work I'm in may not be illegal but she will find a way to bring me down for it. She told me over and over again that I am going to get offers to meet up (be a fucking prostitute!) and that I WILL one day accept the offer. When I do, she will make sure I go to prison. She told me what I do is disgusting and asked me how I would feel if my daughters chose this line of work. I'm furious. I understand that some women escort, cool, whatever, that's their business. I'm not judging them if that's what they choose to do. However I'd like to make it very clear that I do not and will not ever fucking do that. It's just not for me. She reiterated several times that she is monitoring my Facebook and she "will know" when I decide to 'take it to the next level' and she will not hesitate to throw my ass in prison. First of all, my crime is not a sex crime and is in no way related to sex so therefore my Facebook is irrelevant to my terms of release. (Sex offenders do have rules regarding social media and the internet in my state. I'm not a SO though!) I'm angry, I'm hurt, I feel violated. I just need to vent I guess. How dare she judge me and furthermore make it her personal fucking goal to lock me up for doing something LEGAL! I want to scream. What will I do in retaliation? I'm going to find out how much fucking money this dumb fucking cunt makes and I will make it my personal goal to make more than that. I don't care if I only make $1 more per year, dammit I will make more than her. I don't know what else to do. I have no ides how else to "get back" at her for humiliating me and making me feel stupid today. I know that I shouldn't feel like I need some sort of vengeance, I should be an adult and brush it off but I just can't. I feel the need to prove that my job is not only a viable source of income but also NOT a gateway to prostitution and other illegal activities. I don't know what I'm posting this for, I guess because I don't have people IRL to vent to that would understand. Thanks for taking the time to read my rant, even if you don't respond I still feel a little better.


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    I believe legally you are allowed to record your conversations but you have to tell her first otherwise that could be illegal. Do you have the ability to email her? Because if she says anything like that on email she can get into trouble.

    I believe by law if you are a convicted felon you have to disclose where you are working to your probation officer. If you provided a pay stub at anytime all someone has to do is look up the company that issued it.

    I'm sorry that you are going through this. The great thing with caming is that you have the ability to make great $$$. Save up. Maybe even look into starting your own business. You CAN recover from this. Being an Entrepreneur is very empowering, and being a convicted felon I think it gives you a real push and motive to become successful on YOUR OWN and not rely on an employer.

    You have the ability to create the life that you want too. Who cares what this probation officer thinks. It is none of her business that this is what you do for work. Just remember, don't do anything illegal! Don't empower this woman by giving her what she wants, just prove her wrong. Make sure you save 30% of your income and file taxes Also, the probation officers in my county were only paid like $20,000 a year lol, I know that they are not paid well. So it shouldn't be easy to "beat" her.

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    At least you recognize her for what she is. A beotch whose using her own judgements and prejudices to bring you down. A lot of people in criminal justice system treat people like hardcore life criminals and don't understand that sometimes people make mistakes but are working to turn their life around.

    Last I checked cammimg is legal and you say you're not convicted of any sex crime so I don't see what her problem is.

    Can you not consult with a lawyer or someone who knows the law and your probabtion terms just to be on the safe side? Then maybe you can chat with her supervisor so she can tell this lady to back off. Try to find someone in the legal system that will be on your side.
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    I do have to disclose where I work but the SM checks don't say exactly what I do so I'm always cryptic about it. I do "marketing and promotions online" when people ask and leave it at that. I'm sure it didn't take much to find out what I do and who I work for, I guess I just didn't expect this sort of reaction. I mean I didn't expect her to tell me it's the best job ever and I should make a career out of it, but I also didn't expect her to make me feel like some subhuman trash for doing what I do. I'm at peace with it. Yes, I masturbate on cam and get paid to do so. Better yet, I don't hate my job. I definitely wont be doing anything illegal but not because of her, just because I don't feel comfortable doing it. I definitely don't want to meet up with any of the creepers I met on cam, eeeek. LOL! Thank you for your response.

    $20,000? Yea.. I can definitely beat that with a bit of hard work and determination LOL! I also agree that this empowers me. I finally feel in control of my income whereas working the crappy jobs around here that would hire me always made me feel horrible. I live in a tiny town and my car is broken down so my options are severely limited not only by my background. Employers know the struggle I face and boldly took advantage. They know I'll work long hours with no break for minimum wage because I had no other option. It feels so amazing to have an option. I can take a break between each and every paid session if I feel so inclined! (Of course I don't haha!)

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    Tell that cunt she can't fix herself by breaking someone else down!
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    My first thought was, "so...what's your lawyer say?"

    Some people need to grow the fuck up.
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    You can actually do her one better!

    Even if you worked full time at $7.50/hour, it's quite possible that you and/or your kids would need to apply for government benefits such as housing assistance, food stamps, Medicaid, etc.* Let's face it - $7.50/hour isn't enough to live on. Those benefits would cost your county and state quite a lot of money.

    Instead, you can cam, beat her income (which is probably pretty low), and earn enough to pay your bills and expenses yourself. Of course, you would also pay taxes with your awesome camming income. Add up the tax dollars you saved your county/state by not receiving benefits plus the tax dollars you paid, and guess what? Because of camming, you probably just paid her salary, or at least a nice chunk of it.** She should be damn grateful that you chose to cam!


    *As a felon, you may not be eligible for certain benefits, but your kids could probably still qualify.

    **In case anyone is a little I know my post makes it seem like not camming gets you a lot of money from the government, while camming means you pay a lot of money to the government. That may be mathematically true, but the life where you pay a ton of income taxes (because you had a ton of income) is definitely the way to go!
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    First there is no way she can catch you on anything unless she literally buys into every single one of your shows.. And even then there 1/1 shows she can't watch.. And even then who would devote there life to watching you on cam every second.. She has a job...

    Second.. Wat makes her think that even if you do " meet up with a guy" that you would converse about it on fb of all places, lol,

    Third, ask for a reassignment of a new probation officer, see if you can record her.. Of coarse you must give her written consent of the recording but at least she will keep her mouth...and OPINIONS to herself and be a PROFFESIONAL

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    Thank you all so much for the kind words. I can't record her because I'm not allowed to bring anything in with mt. I got in trouble for having lip gloss in my pocket once. I have to empty my pockets and she uses a metal detector wand on me each time I step in the door, standard procedure for everyone. I'm allowed to bring in car keys, that's it. Since my case is closed, I no longer have a lawyer to consult. I could hire one of course but that's pretty expensive and out of my reach at the moment.

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    You can bring in a recording device BUT you must first send her a written letter to let her know ahead of time probably a week in advance, then she cannot confiscate the device during the meeting... You have rights as well just because you made a mistake doesn't mean she is above you or has more rights than you!btw consults are free and google is nice also be careful what you post here, and you could block your state on ur cam site

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    O yea be very careful not too do anything to violate you , she could get you for something unrelated to camming just for the heck of it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HxCHailey View Post
    What will I do in retaliation? I'm going to find out how much fucking money this dumb fucking cunt makes and I will make it my personal goal to make more than that. I don't care if I only make $1 more per year, dammit I will make more than her.
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    if it was so illegal or bad we would not be featured on the news so damn much
    I despise parole/probation officers that abuse power
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    Well, I don't know what to say, but I wish you all the best! Maybe @ some point you can get it expunged?


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    How long is your probation?





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    4 more years but I'd only have to serve 6 months in jail to be done with it. I'm honestly considering saving up some money and just telling them to revoke my probation and just serve the 6 months. I'm just not some hardened criminal though so 6 months is a really long time even though in reality it's not that long.

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    The reason you are posting this honey is because IRL there is nobody who will understand.... nobody understands unless they are a camgirl... What she did to you was wrong and is a prime example of how people in general judge and look down on us.. I dont understand why the public seems to hate us so much... They condemn us like we're criminals and monsters... As far as people asking "how would you feel if you daughter did what you do" my answer is this... I wouldn't want my daughter to do ANY of the jobs I have done from being a camgirl to a grocery bagger to a coordinator at a hotel... None of the jobs I have done are good enough for my daughter which is why I sacrifice for my children so that they can have a better life than I had and the option to work in a career that they love not a job they have to work to make a paycheck..... It's very simple people are miserable and she was using you as a punching bag... What she did was wrong... but walk away with the satisfaction that without even trying you have made her unhappy and she soaks in her own hate now.. she's trying to bring you down and the best way to get you vengeance is to walk into every single meeting you two have with your head HELD high and a smile on your face.... Let her see how happy you are and I promise it will kill her on the inside!! She knows that there is NOTHING she can do about your LEGAL job and as long as you keep it that way you will have nothing to worry about!! She wants to obsess over you fine.. let her, obviously you life is more entertaining than whatever she watches on tv..... I love my haters!! hugs honey and take care!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by secretwebcamchick View Post
    None of the jobs I have done are good enough for my daughter which is why I sacrifice for my children so that they can have a better life than I had and the option to work in a career that they love not a job they have to work to make a paycheck.....
    I'm a little bit emotion thanks to shark week but that part actually made me cry. I don't have really nice things, I don't have any name brand clothes that didn't come from thrift stores or hand me downs, I do my hair myself and drive a car (when it's running) that's almost as old as I am. I work for my children so that they can have the things they want, not just what they need. Thank you so much for that post, it reminded me why I struggle and motivated me to try to care that much less about some miserable woman's opinion about me.

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    Pretty sure as long as it's a legal job her ass isn't supposed to harass you over working. I would report her to her supervisor, her behavior is 100 percent unprofessional.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneBurgess View Post
    Pretty sure as long as it's a legal job her ass isn't supposed to harass you over working. I would report her to her supervisor, her behavior is 100 percent unprofessional.
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    I don't even know what to say. She was and is hella ignorant. I don't think there's anything wrong with escorting/prostitution however she's is very wrong. Of course we get offers to have sex..... women who aren't even in the sex industry get offers to have sex...that is just how alot of these men work. But she has no idea how easy it is to turn down these guys. I'm sure most of us get like 10, 20, 30+ offers a day to meet up. I dunna about anyone else but the offers aren't wearing me down to the point where I want to give in, in fact at this point I find these men and the amount of times I get asked laughable. I don't even take them seriously anymore, I'm just like.....


    She's a miserable person and will stew in her misery for the rest of her life. I find that alot of people who do those jobs...cop, lawyer, judge, etc take those kinds of jobs because they want to have power and treat people like shit. I'm not saying all of them are like that, or that some of them aren't doing those jobs because they genuinely want to help people, or that I don't understand some of the attitude they have because dealing with some of those people you can't be nice and its bound to take an effect on you, however in general I think alot of the people of the law have serious issues. Some of them seem to take out their issues on any and everyone.

    Anywho I agree with Jane I'd report her.

    Sidenote: if what we were doing was illegal we'd all be locked up and there'd be no more camsites. The same government she's working for wants our money no matter how much they try to shame us for how we get it. Give me my tax money back if this is so illegal.


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    I find that a lot of people who do those jobs...cop, lawyer, judge, etc take those kinds of jobs because they want to have power and treat people like shit.
    yup ... been there myself more than once. Fortunately I had the financial means to 'prove my innocence'.


    Putting all of the judgemental issues aside ...

    In regard to a SM check stub, your probation officer undoubtedly has access to the same database that the IRS / LE etc. does. As such, it probably took less than a minute to match up the company name appearing on the check stubs with a report of the actual business activities conducted by that company, or other companies linked to it.

    Again putting judgmental issues aside, the facts are that you have been convicted of a felony, have been sentenced to jail time, and that you are out of jail based on a set of conditions. While adult webcam and/or exotic dancing are 'legal', probation dep'ts undoubtedly view such sex industry work as having the potential for high paying 'illegal' offshoots. Thus while your probation officer came across as sanctimonious, etc. there was probably at least some amount of 'official policy' behind the comments made.

    I admire your spirit and determination, and encourage you to keep generating webcam check stubs that will turn your probation officer green with envy. However, keep in mind that while you are on probation you're not able to legally compete 'on a level playing field' ... and that you have already noted that your probation officer is watching you like a hawk, with a high probability that your providing ANY 'excuse' to revoke your probation is going to be acted on. The first post mentioned a comment about daughters. If in fact you do have daughters, your probation officer could also potentially use your adult webcam work history in conjunction with your felony record to 'mess with' custody / visitation.

    I guess my point is that, while you are still on probation, you don't have a lot of realistic options. However, earning huge money via camming, and turning your probation officer green with envy, IS an option !!!

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    Do you have a stay of imposition or a stay of execution for your felony conviction? A stay of imposition means that your felony could be reduced to a misdemeanor or dismissed entirely if you successfully complete your probation.

    If you have a stay of imposition, I can’t emphasize enough how important it is for your future to complete your probation and have that felony removed from your record.

    I’m not taking sides but I do think you made a mistake by not being completely upfront and honest with your probation officer about working as a cam model. Although you might not see it this way, to your probation officer it was obvious you were trying to hide something and that would naturally raise a red flag.

    I do believe that your probation officer is making a very big (and incorrect) assumption that you will cross the line into prostitution. However, if someone is unfamiliar with the cam industry, it is more or less a logical assumption to make.

    I will offer this advice. First of all, do whatever you can to maintain a good relationship with your probation officer. It may be difficult, but try to avoid appearing angry or defiant. Tell her you regret not being honest with her and do your best to assure her that you have every intention of remaining law abiding.

    I don’t know the length of your probation but in many jurisdictions, probation periods can be shortened or extended and the recommendations of your probation officer carries, by far, the most weight. And that should be your greatest priority, ending your probation and court supervision.

    As a very last resort, you can request to be transferred to another officer but I doubt that would improve your situation. I hope you are able to work out your differences with your probation officer because she can be a valuable ally during your probation. Or she can be your worst enemy.

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    Default Re: I got a lecture today *RANT*

    Sometimes in life we have to play a roll.

    Smile, agree with her. Flip the script & turn her into a mentor. Don't go in with attitude, cause honestly they get that all day long, but gratitude.

    Agree with her but ask how can a job at $7.50 an hour cover your rent, bills & put food on your table. Let her lecture & guilty tripping roll off of you. There will be many in life who use those tactics, you got to be better at your game & the end result of what you want out of life.

    6 months away from kids can be devastating to them. This is why you are doing probation, so work on making more money during the time you do cam. Make sure what you say in free or paid chat can never be mistaken for prostitution in any way. Do NOT allow any fans or custies onto your facebook page. Keep pics pg. Post positive, happy thoughts on social media. Post famous quotes about positivity & hard work on there too, since she is watching.

    Remember in life, when you lay down with dogs you get fleas. So do not hang out associate with people who are committing crimes or bad behaviors. They are on a trip in life that you dont have to make the journey with them. I don't care how long you have been friends with them. You have a kid... friends & trouble makers are out the door.
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    Get involved in even a small way with charity work. Go feed the homeless, help out at a food bank. Good for your soul & rep with this officer to counter act the camming. Also giving you & her something else to talk about when you meet.

    Get a library card. Read books on sales, how to get ahead, how to be successful. This will help you in life, in those meetings with her & be a positive influence on your kids life.

    Take an online college course. Ask the officer which one would be best to start with, what does she recommend. Learn a foreign language which makes you more employable & make more money at camming.

    When you find ways to improve you, your life & kids life it will have many positive affects in every aspect of life & dealing with this woman. She has seen many go down bad roads, her lecture was out of concern for you & the kid. May not be pleasant to hear or deal with, but from a good place. I have seen girls enter adult work & do great things with their lives, also have seen MANY get into & get a pimp, get into drugs, get into a life that is horrible. NOT as if what she says is not out of reality, cause it is. PUT it in perspective of where she is coming from.

    Despite hurt feelings, take a step back & look at it from her point of view. What she has to deal with day in & day out with her job. How many she sees going down a bad road despite their good intentions. How many woman who end up in jail because of the man in their life was a criminal. Thank her for the concern.

    Most so-called normal jobs are soul sucking, dead end, take advantage of people & say it is all okay when it isn't. WAY to many of American's have been conditioned by schools, society that playing by the rules, working hard will make you a success when it won't. I get it.

    No matter who you get it will be the same. Change how you react & win them over. Being defensive & pissed off will not work.

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    Default Re: I got a lecture today *RANT*

    I agree with Billyjack, can you ask the defense attorney you used to write the probation department stating in a detailed letter the problems you are having with the assigned officer and request a new assigned probation officer to your case.
    If that request is not granted, the recourse is for the criminal defense attorney to file a petition in the county and state where you had your criminal matter seeking a new probation officer. The court will hear the motion and make a decision on the request.

    Found that online..

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