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    so i have this little old man customer who loves me to breath in this ear and neck , and he will spend a good chunk for me to do it. i was in the back room for like 20 minutes, and during the end he tried to trail his finger down my leg wanting to touch my pussy and i gently put his hand down.
    then i hear " you're done now!" and the security guard goes to the manager and tried to say that i let this guy finger me and i was "sucking on his neck" and "putting my leg up". uhh yeah i DID put my leg up, its one of my dance moves??? and if you didn't like what he or i were doing, why didn't you come in and say something considering we were in the dance room for 25 minutes?? and you didn't see him finger me, because he never did! i would not let a customer stick his finger up my pussy in the dance room. so the manager (who is nice, but she's also very tough and strict) sent me home and said " this is a HUGE problem but we will deal with it later, but you have to go home today".
    i'm so angry i can't stop crying. i'm scheduled sunday but idk if i should go in or what i'm supposed to do! i CAN'T go back and work there because by now i'm sure he's run his mouth and told everyone i'm some dirty slut and i'll be shunned and bullied and looked down on from here on out. its a very "tight knit" small club and can get very catty. i can't go back there, i'll have to go to the sister club. he's stolen from girls before and i'm wondering if he's mad because i dont tip him, i don't understand why he's doing this to me and purposefully trying to get me fired but i know he's sketchy and dirty as hell himself.
    so what should i do? should i just go in sunday, or text the person in charge of schedules or… this is just a fucking disaster. i just want to crawl under the blankets and never come out

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    he's stolen from girls before and i'm wondering if he's mad because i dont tip him, i don't understand why he's doing this to me and purposefully trying to get me fired but i know he's sketchy and dirty as hell himself.
    I think you hit the nail on the head. If he's sketchy and dirty as hell and used to getting tipped well by other dancers, I assume that means they're tipping him to look the other way while they're in VIP. If you're not doing anything dirty and therefore not tipping him, he wants to get rid of you to make room for dancers that will. That sucks and I'm sorry.

    Does your club have cameras in VIP? A simple viewing of your VIP would surely clear your name. Might be worth going in on Sunday when the club opens (and when there aren't many dancers or customers to keep the manager busy) to set it all straight. Of course, if this bouncer is out to get you, there's nothing stopping him from trying again and again. Still, if this is a good and lucrative club, it might be worth getting it all sorted out.

    FWIW if you do go back and get your name cleared, no one can shun or bully or look down on you because then it's clear you didn't actually do anything. Never coming back makes you look guilty, but if there are other lucrative clubs nearby, it might not matter what this club thinks of you.

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    ^that's what I would suggest, just say "look, this is a misunderstanding and I know I didn't do anything wrong, so can we look at the cameras to set the record straight?"

    It sounds like he is shady and pissed you aren't tipping him, but it also could have looked like he was fingering you when he wasn't. If this is a good club I would sit down with the manager and try to work it out, like Shanna said if they let you back no one can talk shit because they wouldn't if you were dirty.

    The manager may just want to scare you and have a sit down with you if she isn't sure who to believe. I still don't even understand what it was about, but a few years ago one of the waitresses was pissed that I was helping another waitress sell drinks, and she made up some shit and I had a sit down with one of the managers about lying about who drinks were sold to (dancers or customers)... it was totally bizarre, but he didn't know who to believe and just wanted to make a show about giving me a talking to.

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    thanks. unfortunately there aren't any cameras in the private dance rooms that i know of ( only the champagne room), so its his word against mine. maybe i'll try and text the girls who does the schedules to see if i'm cleared for going back :/

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    ^I think if she wanted to fire you, she would have just done it then.

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    Can you not bring up the possibility that this guy has it out for you? Are you the only girl who doesn't tip him 'appropriately'? If there are others I would consider getting them together & going to talk to the mgr as a group. If she is really so strict abt running a clean club, she can't not look into the guy when there are multiple complaints abt him.

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    Awww. I am so sorry sweetie..I don't know how to advise you, but what the ladies said is worthwhile pursuing? Whatta jerk!
    You take care hon.
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    You should definitely go back to work at the club; those catty bitches and the corrupted bouncer isn't why you're there to begin with. You should talk to the manager before stepping into the floor. Explain to him your concerns with the bouncer and talk to him in a manner in which he can take you serious. Managers put up with bullshit everyday and will see you in the way he sees every other one of these girls. After addressing your concern just tell him you're ready to work in PEACE but to please be aware of the bouncer's underhanded approaches if he chooses to continue with the harassment.

    It sounds to me that the bouncer is close with management in ways that he can get away with whatever he pleases; considering that he gets away with stealing other girl's stuff with no consequences, as well as successfully having you sent home over something you didn't do. This is my case with my club's DJ and I have just learned to put my anger to the side and tip him well despite the horrible music he plays when I'm on stage. Our relationship has gotten much better over time, which is less stressful on me when i'm at work; you might want to consider this as an option, but don't tip him right away. Give it about 2 weeks so you can reward him for his good behavior, as opposed to tipping him right away which would make him feel empowered.

    As for the caddy bitches, don't you ever allow yourself to be intimidated by them. When you really come to think about it, they're nothing but dumb bitches. Are you really going to be intimidated by a pack of idiots? Step your attitude game up. Being confrontational is a wonderful thing as long as you are balanced. There are ways to shut someone down without the use of curse words or violence. Take me as an example, one girl who was as skinny as I am, gained weight; she took one look at me in a disgusted manner and said " I cant believe I was that skinny oh my god". I then told her yes and now two of your former regulars (steady and high spenders) are now my regulars since you put on the few pounds. Thanks a lot. Shut her right up. If you cant think of quick comebacks just prepare yourself ahead of time. Sometimes I like to fantasize myself in certain situations with the majority of the girls and what I would say to them if they picked on me. It used to come in handy for me but now no one fucks with me anymore. Your intelligence is the most powerful and intimidating tool you have so use it.

    With that said. Go back to the club and fucking own it. Whenever I have came back from suspension, I use my anger as an instrumental emotion regulator; as in using your anger as a performance booster. Stop letting these fuckers get to you and bring you down. Make use of a bad situation and use these caddy bitches as bait to fuel your performance. They'll eventually slink back. When life hands you lemons.....

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    thanks guys! he just made me feel so disgusting and shameful, and sounded so self righteous and was sure to say things really LOUD so everyone could hear. it was getting to the point where it was almost verbally abusive. but i'm going to go in there tomorrow and be calm and firm

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    so i went in, and started doing my hair/makeup andthe female manager sent another security guard in to tell me i "coudn't be there". couldn't even come in and say things to my FACE, or tell me what was going on. am i fired? am i suspended? these are things i would like to know, i think its only the fair and adult thing to do after 3 years of loyal servitude to this place. i would also like to be given a chance to defend myself, if its a matter of "he said/she said" i'm not sure why they are believing some idiot who has only been there for 3 months over me. so now i wait, i guess.
    the whole thing is turning into a huge witch hunt, and its ironic because all the top earners in that place are ACTUAL extras girls.

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    I agree with what Shanna said... unfortunately he probably IS trying to clear you out so your customers can be taken by the girls who do extras/tip him better. It sounds like they want to fire you but are too pussy to actually say "You're fired" and are hoping you just get the message by being sent home twice. If you REALLY want to stay there, I guess you could go demand to speak to a manager and firmly (but calmly; no manager likes a hysterical stripper) what happened and your suspicions about the bouncer. Otherwise, cut your losses and find a new club.

    It's unfortunate bullshit that some clubs operate that way. Time working there or money tipped out over that time doesn't amount to anything when other "bottom feeder" staff get greedy. I've had that bite me in the ass once, so now I make a very large point of being super sweet to management/bouncers, and tipping them above the minimum so they won't be looking for an excuse to give me trouble.
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    * sigh* yeah you're right. i'm gonna try one more time to get some answers by going to the owners, and if i'm fired then that's that. i'm gonna do some clips, camming, maybe private parties, and try and find a different club. maybe this is a blessing in disguise

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    Quote Originally Posted by simone87 View Post
    * sigh* yeah you're right. i'm gonna try one more time to get some answers by going to the owners, and if i'm fired then that's that. i'm gonna do some clips, camming, maybe private parties, and try and find a different club. maybe this is a blessing in disguise
    I am in agreement that you should go to the owners, even if it is a last-ditch effort. You've got nothing to lose by doing so, since they wouldn't let you work anyway, & their refusal to let you work was losing them $$$ right along w/ you, so fk em on that. I'm really sry you got put into this spot, but I wish you luck w/ it, hopefully things will start looking up for you soon

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    Good Luck Hon! Please keep us updated. If they don't take you back, I hope you find another club.


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    Ridiculous. You clearly work hard and do a great job. Sucks. Xoxo

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    unfortunately, 'money talks' ... in this case 'extras' money !!! I wouldn't count too heavily on a favorable reaction from the club owner / manager, since they also know that private dances sold by girls offering 'extras' probably outnumber sales by 'clean' dancers, thus girls offering 'extras' are generating more cash for the club ( and themselves ) than you are.

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    I'm so sorry to hear that. It's just such an unfair industry to be in sometimes. If you're up for it try one more time to clear this out with the manager. Honestly after your experiences, I would not even want to step foot at that club again, seems corrupted. Is there anyway you can find another club to work at even if it's over an hour to 2 hour drive? My club is an hour away and I feel the drive is worth it since it's a good place to work. Clubs that are further away tend to be better money-wise. Perhaps it's time to expand your horizons and not limit yourself to local clubs. I have seen girls at my club fly from Florida to work there; so a two hour drive wouldn't be too bad, especially since you would be dealing with less drama. It would also give you a chance to recreate your stripper persona in ways you've always dreamed of and in ways you can be respected. Think about it. That club you're at right now isn't your only option so keep your head up high and don't give up. We're here for you if you need any more advice.

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    Sorry to hear you're having such trouble with that place. It's a drama filled industry, to say the least. Personally, I would have went and talked to management the minute this all started to go down. It's pretty easy to tell that your suspicions are correct in the sense that the security guard is trying to boot you for not making him a significant profit. If management sided with him, it would be clear that the club is corrupt. I wouldn't want to waste my time at a place like that. There are better clubs, ones where management is honest, and the security guards are there to protect you, not make a profit off the girls. Like kassie says, clubs that are farther away often hold more money. I was far better off once i found that out.

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    Agree on talking to the owners, what fucking pussys that they can't even give you a straight answer. I agree that it sounds like they want to fire you but don't have the balls to just come right out and say it. Also/ how shitty of them to let you waste your time by coming in and getting ready before telling you you can't be there!

    Is there another club you could feasibly work at, or is there not really another club to go to?

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    If they fire you, call the cops and try to get that club busted for prostitution. Give them the bouncer's name and tell the police he's a pimp.

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    If they fire you, call the cops and try to get that club busted for prostitution. Give them the bouncer's name and tell the police he's a pimp.
    Not wanting to be the bearer of bad tidings, but ... depending on the particular area this club is located in ... this could be a 'risky' move for the OP.

    - point #1 even if the cops DO take a serious interest, it will almost certainly be the dancers who are busted not the clubowner or bouncer

    - point #2 even if the cops DO take a serious interest, both the busted dancers and bouncer will know exactly who 'ratted them out' ... resulting in potential retribution

    - point #3 if the cops are tight with this club and ignore the report, they will be made aware that the OP is a 'stripper' to be viewed with suspicion, and they may tip off the clubowner as well.

    - point #4 no matter what the outcome, it's a distinct possibility that this clubowner will try to fire and 'blacklist' the OP with other area clubowners as a 'troublemaker' ... potentially forcing a move or a career change.

    Put another way, in this business like many others, it's important to keep in mind what might be gained ( in this case nothing except revenge ) versus what might be lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wednesday86 View Post
    If they fire you, call the cops and try to get that club busted for prostitution. Give them the bouncer's name and tell the police he's a pimp.
    Honestly yes on this. For them not to give you a chance to be heard out is unfair.

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    Maybe she can make an annoynmus report? Maybe they can send an undercover in to bust them.

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    ^^^ generally speaking, an anonymous report will either be totally ignored by local LE, or will result in LE contacting the club with a 'heads-up' that a complaint has been made ... providing the club with a 1+1 = 2 suspicion regarding who the complainant actually might have been.

    The 'real world' point to keep in mind is that, other than creating election year headlines, LE busting a strip club is far more trouble than it is worth. As a practical matter, it's virtually impossible to prove that the clubowner / managers / bouncers were actively and directly involved with certain dancers offering sexual contact to customers in 'private' club areas ... thus no chance of successfully pursuing 'promoting prostitution' charges or closing the club down.

    Yes LE can lodge prostitution charges against dancers, but as a practical matter the county doesn't want to pay to hold dancers in the county lock-up, or take up jail space needed for more 'serious' criminals. So the busted dancers will be offered 'plea bargain' deals, the club's attorney will pay a fine on the dancer's behalf, and the busted dancers will be right back to work in the club the very next night. And as a practical matter, having one sexually related misdemeanor charge, or 10 sexually related misdemeanor charges, on a girl's permanent record doesn't really affect their future ability to get hired for a 'straight' job any differently.

    LE does care about prostitution in public areas ... well at least in 'certain' public areas ... and will thus bust street girls to change the 'optics' to satisfy local citizens / voters. But, other than the occasional 'crusader', generally speaking, LE does NOT care what's going on in the private areas of a private business where the activities are outside the view of the general public.

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    IMO the best revenge is going to work at another club and then returning to the old one once some of the old heads are gone.

    It sucks but almost every dancer goes through an unwanted work stoppage at a club, sometimes from being fired unfairly, other times getting run off or just reaching the end of her earning arc there.

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