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    I'm trying to decide between iFriends and Streamate as my second cam site but I can't find any information on iFriends from someone who has cammed on the site. Their terms and conditions page makes their payout percentages very confusing. Basically any info on the site would be appreciated. Also their is a commission for new models so if anyone would like me to use them as a referal (if I decide to sign up) let me know. First one to ask gets the referral.

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    There's an iFriends thread somewhere...I used to work there but the thread gives more points of view than mine. Basically it's become rather slow, but it's a decent platform that's good for bringing your own traffic to because you get 100% payouts from clients you sign up through you. My name is the same as it was there, so feel free to use me for a referral

    Edit: The iFriends thread.
    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...light=iFriends

    I was there since Jan 2003 and saw the site go from a great camsite to a very slow one. The times change in the industry and their model became outmoded in favour of the free chat phenomenon. It has a classy, more relaxed vibe than some sites and clients will stay longer, oftentimes. I still have some clients there, so I used to split and probably will again when I return from my camming hiatus. Some days there's nothing to be made there, so if you're looking for a busier site to split it may not be the one. But if you don't mind driving your own traffic and want to use their fanclub feature, I recommend it. I would not use the lower % no chargeback feature, just limit your time in private with new members and you should be fine (works for me). If you take responsibility for your own chargebacks/refunds you get 50%. I get a little more as an "amateur star", since I have my own website & have been established for a while doing clips.

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    Iused to work on there a long time ago. I remember they had one payout percentage for exclusive girls meaning the ones that appeared only on that site and one slightly less if you were split camming. It was a very good deal compared to some sites like 45 - 50% but then there was a big problem with guys charging back shows and they made chargeback protection optional and it gave you a lower percentage in return for protection from large chargebacks. That was like another 5 or 10 percent from your check (I can't remember exactly it was so long ago). So you ended up getting more like 35- 40%

    What I liked about it was that they used to have a real private chat where members and guests could not see you till they paid. From time to time I still check to see if they add any interesting new features or show options that would allow me to do nude shows like on cams.com which is the only thing that would make it preferable to other sites at this point but they just keep taking away options from the models so now its just got the basic standard kind of show you can do where you have to deal with free guest chatters till someone takes you private.

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    Iused to work on there a long time ago. I remember they had one payout percentage for exclusive girls meaning the ones that appeared only on that site and one slightly less if you were split camming. It was a very good deal compared to some sites like 45 - 50% but then there was a big problem with guys charging back shows and they made chargeback protection optional and it gave you a lower percentage in return for protection from large chargebacks. That was like another 5 or 10 percent from your check (I can't remember exactly it was so long ago). So you ended up getting more like 35- 40%

    What I liked about it was that they used to have a real private chat where members and guests could not see you till they paid. From time to time I still check to see if they add any interesting new features or show options that would allow me to do nude shows like on cams.com which is the only thing that would make it preferable to other sites at this point but they just keep taking away options from the models so now its just got the basic standard kind of show you can do where you have to deal with free guest chatters till someone takes you private.

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    To answer your question, SM is the biggest. I'm debating iFriends myself as another egg in my basket, but just have concerns cuz they seem so small compared to the other sites-no offense intended.
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    they just keep taking away options from the models so now its just got the basic standard kind of show you can do where you have to deal with free guest chatters till someone takes you private.
    Really? They took away all the options except Free to Private? Can anyone confirm this? I'll have to try logging in and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaSylvan View Post
    Really? They took away all the options except Free to Private? Can anyone confirm this? I'll have to try logging in and see.
    I think veteran hosts retain that ability but brand new accounts have to do a certain amount of time in free chat.


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    ^Thanks Laurie. I just checked my account and it's still the same options as there have been for a long time. Standard (with a security screen),Free-to-Private (free chat like on Streamate), Free For Fanclub (free show for your fanclub members) and free to anyone (who ever uses that?)
    Anyway, it's always been recommended anyone starting out on iFriends use the Free-to-Private feature only for a few months to get established. Now I guess they just made it official.

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    I am not sure about this cause I never worked this site, but I was reading in another forum that free to private was mandatory for a certain number of hours for new accounts (like IML but idk the exact number of hours required), and then in the ifriends thread there the spokesperson for ifriends said they took down that requirement for now (idk if it was temporary or not). AFAIK Standard mode is still available.

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    Hiya,

    EDIT: Sorry to mention the name earlier, didn't realise it's now removed! xxx

    I'm new to this forum and love the variations and honesty in the posts.

    I've run my own businesses for a long time, and what I do, along with being a busy mum, can get really tiring, so I wanted to try my hand at working for a camming site. I love sex and it does empower and energise! I've been a model and adult performer before I had my kids, and actually feel that my body looks better now that I am older. I've been doing research (am a bit of a perfectionist) into which sites would suit me and cam just SO confused. I don't and can't travel to do shoots and videos any more, so thought that being a cam model would be the nest best thing.

    I also need a site that offers good and honest affiliate package as well as a site with flexibility. I'm in the UK and was thinking about using Adultwork until I read a lot of VERY bad reviews about them closing accounts etc. I also don't like their site layout and so on, plus I've had so many emails from guys asking if I'm an escort, which I clearly state I'm not. Then I found IFriends and after chatting to their support staff, who seemed more than helpful, I decided to set up account.

    They don't offer white label affiliate sites anymore, but I've purchased my own domain name, in keeping with my brand, and will just use codes in iframes within it.

    Everything was ticking along, and I was quite happy with my plans and progress until I found last night a girl's blog saying how much IFriends ripped her off.

    She is saying that IFriends cannot be trusted, along with Stream Mate and that they have cause her a lot of bother.

    Now, I'm not usually one to put all of my eggs into one basket or give away profits either. All of my Psychic Readings, Magical Spell Castings, Training Sessions that I currently offer, I do the sales and marketing for myself and keep 100% of my profits. However due to me not being able to take adult payments, I can't JUST promote myself, can I?

    There is also the traffic issue. It took me years to build up my regulars as a Psychic and Priestess, so working for a camming site does seem appealing from that perspective.

    So I really wonder whether to work for several sites or just work for IFriends and integrate them into my site?

    I would appreciate any ideas and suggestions as I do need to get set up and start working soon.

    xxx
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    I have been on iFriends since they started in 1998. I have seen the site go from having over 3000 rooms open at the same time in the Girls Home Alone (that is what it used to be called until they changed it to Women) to now 100 or less. It used to be the industry leader, and there was a ton of money to be made as they had a corner on the market. Their camming structure (WebPower the parent company) came from other adult sites they ran in the mid 90s which I was a member of. Back then it was called Amateur Hardcore and you could have a membership to tons of pics, AVIs and this "new" and cutting edge technology of being on videocam! You had to have CUSeeMe software and you would need to turn that on and then put an IP# in your browser that would send you to a room filled with others who were ON cam and not on cam. There were about a half dozen categories and it wasn't too stable, but, heck it was I think 1995 or 1996! LOL Back in those days, cam sites were only in Eastern Europe and the sites would sell blocks of time to watch performers do their thing. The thing is, they didn't speak English for the most part, some guy was typing off cam to you and it wasn't really a one on one experience. So, when iFriends threw their hat in the ring being the first US company to do this, it was like the Holy Grail for the guys in North America. Finally, they could talk to someone who was in the states and may possibly even be near them! I can remember signing into my room and before I could even get my room open, the phone would be ringing, which indicated someone was in videochat paying! Back then, you could also charge anything you wanted, so, there were some nutty broads charging .10cents a minute (ugh), but, they didn't last too long. Also, back then, I wasn't asked for ID, verification and all this other stuff you have to give now. When I started there, there were only maybe 12 girls, and I wasn't in the adult section at that time - they had other categories, and being an astrologer, I would sign into the Advice/Psychics category. They had Friends and Family and another G category I can't remember. Unfortunately, they have done away with the G rooms over there, but, I made a decent amount of money doing readings for the guys there. They used to send gifts to us, flowers, gift certificates etc, but then they became too big and it all went to heck. LOL I am still on there as I don't really like the circus atmosphere of free chat on SM. The guys on iFriends are just a different caliber altogether. They are nice, respectful and you can form long term relationships with them. I still have guys who first visited me in 98 coming by to chat in video. I don't make the money I did back then, but, I am not sure who IS on there! I am sure there are some who are doing really well still, but, if you are looking for a site that will be akin to a get rich quick scheme, iFriends is not it. You would have to put in time promoting yourself, perhaps doing Free to Private, filling your Fan Club with material etc. Even then, you may be disappointed with the results. They have a great affiliate program that pays well, but, like anything else, it's not going to be a get rich quick scheme as it once was back in the 90s and early 2000s.

    I didn't realize they were requiring new girls to do a certain amount of Free to Private chat. Perhaps they have seen other sites take over from them and their format and thought that they needed to follow suit. Even IF they didn't require it, it may be a good idea in order to get your face out there for the guys to get to know. After a check debacle in 2001, they implemented the withholding where they take 10% of your gross and set it aside for 6 months in case you have chargebacks. You get that 10% in 6 months if nothing is refunded to a client. You can choose to opt into the guaranteed payment of 35%, but, this to me seems pointless given the traffic flow there is low - if you want to give a site 65%, go to SM and actually have traffic you may be able to convert! On iFriends, you could literally sit for hours (if not days LOL) without a peep, so, I would say stick with the 50% payout. They have implemented something some time back where they check the card every say 10 min (it varies, and on some guys it doesn't seem to check at all, there is a heavy use form that some guys fill out and maybe that is why) or every $30 or so dollars, and if the guys card rejects the charge, they get tossed out of videochat! It is actually quite funny to be talking to a guy or entertaining them, and see in red letters "Mr Broke member" has been cut off from videochat due to declines (something like that..) Funny, those guys never come back in to ask what happened.. I think they KNOW!!!

    As for Amanda, please take what she writes with a grain of salt. When we had forums on iFriends, she got into fights with about 98% of us. If you were not agreeing with what her perception of reality was, you were either out to get her, a plant from iFriends, dumb or ignorant. Let's look at the track record: She was tossed from iFriends after she bluffed that she had a lawyer that was going to look into this "money" that they owed her for discrepencies in her Fan Club and I think the 10% thing. Well, of course, once she said she had a lawyer, they didn't want anything to do with her and would no longer engage her. At that point, it was, "Fine, you have a lawyer, have then talk to our lawyer". Why would they keep her on? She bluffed, they called her bluff and well, she then moved on to SM, came back under other host names in our Forums to recruit girls to go over there and badmouth iFriends. She would be so delusional that she would be in her room on SM, and anyone who would say anything perceived as an insult, she would start calling them names of those on staff at iFriends and claim that they were in her room on SM trying to ruin her business and run her off the net. LOL Now, let's look at this realistically: by the time she was on SM, iFriends had taken quite a tumble as far as traffic, so, it would seem fitting that the powers that be on iFriends would NOT have time to go harass her on another site - they had their own problems of trying to get their site back to where it was in the 90s! LOL This is further seen by her starting to hallucinate and think that the powers that be on SM were after her and trying to get her off the net. She would sit in her room and constantly complain about how they messed with her placement, how they diverted her traffic to another room, how much she hated this site, that they were web pimps and part of some organized criminal venture. I can remember thinking, "Why on earth does this site let her sit here every time she is on and bad mouth them?" Well, she finally cooked her own goose and said enough to get her banned from that site. Every forum I have been on that she has become a member of, she gets banned from as well. Why? Well, because she has tunnel vision, and if you do not agree with her narrow minded thinking, she will get into a war of words with you. I remember one time a long time ago, a guy came in my room on iFriends and asked me if I did a certain thing (smoke). Well, I don't and never have, but at that time I knew she did, so, I thought I would send him over to her for a show. So, he goes to her room, I go to her room to type privately that I sent this guy and have fun... she was so rude to him! All the guy said was, Hi, and started to ask about what he wanted.. and she accused him of being a troll of being another host etc! It was nuts! I tried to type to her what the deal was and she blocked me before it ever made it to her screen. So, that was the last time I ever sent anyone her way. She also blocked the potential viewer. The upshot here is that iFriends as well as SM CAN be trusted. I have NEVER NOT gotten paid from either, my checks have NEVER been shorted, I get replies back if I have tech issues etc. Perhaps SHE cannot trust them or them trust her. SM has a ton of new girls sign up daily and if iFriends was running some criminal enterprise, I am sure they would have been gone by now. They are going on their 17th year in this business. They may not be #1 any longer, but, they are a decent site if you need something in the background or do not like Free Chat.

    Do you give readings on K e e n or other sites?

    If you want traffic, go with SM, but know you will have to deal with guys who say stupid stuff and beg. If you want a relaxed atmosphere where you can do other things between viewers, go with iFriends.

    Juli

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    WOW Juli,

    I so appreciate your very honest and in-depth reply, thank you so so much!

    I had a really good 'feeling' about IFriends but as I do wish to integrate their affiliate programme with my own site in such a BIG way, I had to do some research into them and asking too.

    I had wondered, being Psychic ha ha, about the nature of this girl's words and behaviour, it all seemed so extreme. She obviously has her reasons, whatever they are, poor love.

    About ten years ago there was a company like K E E N called Q U E S T I C O, I don't know if you've heard of them?

    Anyway, cut a VERY long story short, I signed up along with a lot of UK Psychics and did a lot of work for them, for which we were never paid. They were taken over by another management team then went bust. I did consider K E E N who at one time did have a UK based site as well as a US one. I will take a look at them again. Have you ever used them?

    Also, do you still offer astrology services? I don't and would love to find out more about yours with a view to maybe promoting yours on my sites? Message me if you're interested.

    I would also like to add some 'Friends' to my profile at IFriends, do you still have an account now?

    I have read a lot on here about SM and did wonder if they would be better. However I do like the idea of the fanclub and get closer facilities of IFriends, so I think I'll give them a go and work on my own promos.

    I've just waiting to have faster broadband installed, as my connected was too slow and when I logged on to do a show last week, everyone said my feed was 'blocky?' I chatted to support and they couldn't figure it out but my husband and I need to use the internet at the same time and thought, regardless, that the fibre-optic broadband might be a good idea.

    So I all ready to go soon and am looking forward to creating some 'mystical' shows.

    Oh and may I ask, as silly as it may sound, but what does a model do regarding going live during her monthly's? Any ideas? I want to do some shows where I don't have to get nude and as I offer 'Goddess Worship' type chat, I thought maybe I could focus on that more?

    I know some girls when I did Playboy TV and such like used to shove sponges up themselves, but hey, that is NOT my idea of fun lol! The only thing that's getting shoved up me is a hard C**CK! Ha ha!

    Hope you don't mind me asking.

    I was so pleased to come in and find a response already as I don't know anyone else who cams at all. I used to know a lot of girls way back, but a lot of them moved abroad and had families etc and we all lost contact.

    Thank you once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelantheDivine View Post
    I did consider K E E N who at one time did have a UK based site as well as a US one. I will take a look at them again. Have you ever used them?
    Keen is an excellent platform for psychic related things. I notice their top speakers are able to charge a nice amount per minute too.


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    I have NO luck on Ifriend.. I think I have been on there for 10 yrs.. I am super perplexed.. I can make like $100 a week there .. it's not my site .. it's my filler site.. SM is my man , and CAMS is my mistress.

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    ^Great post, Julianne! Interesting stuff about the extremely early days of the webcam industry and iFriends in particular. Thanks for your time and insight!

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    I feel that like men, we all 'connect' to different sites for different reasons. I look at some and just LOVE the site design and layout and then click to another site and something totally pisses me off. xxx
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    I was going to try ifriends too. Can anyone tell me what they pay? If it's 50% with chargebacks then what are the other options? I'm not a fan of chargebacks. Are there a lot of those? No other sites I've worked have taken money for chargebacks. I know it's probably included in the pay rate percentage as a general rule but the camming sites are all the same with between 26 and 30 percent with any decent traffic and 30 plus percent with shit traffic. The more traffic a site has, the smaller the pay percentage. I must of missed Amanda's post about them. What did she say? I don't see this anywhere. Just curious. I like to read critiques as well as praise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelantheDivine View Post
    WOW Juli,

    I so appreciate your very honest and in-depth reply, thank you so so much!

    I had a really good 'feeling' about IFriends but as I do wish to integrate their affiliate programme with my own site in such a BIG way, I had to do some research into them and asking too.

    I had wondered, being Psychic ha ha, about the nature of this girl's words and behaviour, it all seemed so extreme. She obviously has her reasons, whatever they are, poor love.

    About ten years ago there was a company like K E E N called Q U E S T I C O, I don't know if you've heard of them?

    Anyway, cut a VERY long story short, I signed up along with a lot of UK Psychics and did a lot of work for them, for which we were never paid. They were taken over by another management team then went bust. I did consider K E E N who at one time did have a UK based site as well as a US one. I will take a look at them again. Have you ever used them?

    Also, do you still offer astrology services? I don't and would love to find out more about yours with a view to maybe promoting yours on my sites? Message me if you're interested.

    I would also like to add some 'Friends' to my profile at IFriends, do you still have an account now?

    I have read a lot on here about SM and did wonder if they would be better. However I do like the idea of the fanclub and get closer facilities of IFriends, so I think I'll give them a go and work on my own promos.

    I've just waiting to have faster broadband installed, as my connected was too slow and when I logged on to do a show last week, everyone said my feed was 'blocky?' I chatted to support and they couldn't figure it out but my husband and I need to use the internet at the same time and thought, regardless, that the fibre-optic broadband might be a good idea.

    So I all ready to go soon and am looking forward to creating some 'mystical' shows.

    Oh and may I ask, as silly as it may sound, but what does a model do regarding going live during her monthly's? Any ideas? I want to do some shows where I don't have to get nude and as I offer 'Goddess Worship' type chat, I thought maybe I could focus on that more?

    I know some girls when I did Playboy TV and such like used to shove sponges up themselves, but hey, that is NOT my idea of fun lol! The only thing that's getting shoved up me is a hard C**CK! Ha ha!

    Hope you don't mind me asking.

    I was so pleased to come in and find a response already as I don't know anyone else who cams at all. I used to know a lot of girls way back, but a lot of them moved abroad and had families etc and we all lost contact.

    Thank you once again.

    Divine Blessings

    Melanthe xxx
    Hi Melanthe:

    I have never heard of Q U E S T I C O, I know that there was a site that Keen absorbed years ago (Live Advice or something?) and we got all their calls. I have been with K E E N since 2001 and still do readings there daily. I know they used to have a UK based K e e n, but not sure if they offer that anymore. If all else fails, you could always buy a US based Skype number and have calls forwarded. I am also on many other large and small psychic type sites. I semi retired from camming when I turned 50 two years ago to just focus on readings, but, I still get on iFriends and when feeling adventurous or wanting to entertain myself with comments guys say, SM. You can add me if you want to your friends list, I am ASTARGAZER there. Yes, I still do astrology, it is my full time job. You can message me if you want, if you have questions about it.

    I like the perks (fan clubs, no guest chat, get closer etc) on iFriends, but again, I have to reiterate that if you want "traffic" to your chat room, you may want to check out SM.

    I no longer have "monthly visitors" LOL, I am peri menopausal, but, rarely if ever have a period for about 3 years I think. When I did have periods, it didn't stop me from doing shows - even penetration ones. I would just take a tampon, wrap the string around it tightly and shove it up there. I would not suggest to clients, "hey, let me use this toy now!", they would have to ask, and then, I would use strategic camera angles where I wasn't even putting it more than say 1/2" inch if that in. I would also use fingers, and as most here know, bending your fingers to look as though you are going to town can spare your vagina a lot of soreness and let you work through aunt flo.

    I am sure Amanda has her reasons for what she says and does. But, when you did your search, you have to realize her complaints/blog were the only ones that came up saying what it said, right? There isn't a conglomeration of iFriends hosts (or even SM for that matter, as they would be complaining here in the SM thread, something you may want to read from top to bottom before starting there) who are claiming they never got paid or they are being ripped off. Only ONCE in 17 years was there an issue with payment. It was funny too (well, not at the time) but, someone in the forums complained that their check bounced (we didn't have Payoneer or direct deposit back on those days, only checks) and of course, we were all freaking out worrying about our pay. LuAnn, who used to be the liaison years ago to the chathosts came in the forum and stated without hesitation that, "iFriends had NEVER bounced a chathost check, and if you can prove it to us, we will give you $1000!" Well.... LOL this girl came back with pics of her bounced check, and then others checks bounced (not everyones) including mine that week. Having thrown down that gauntlet, I went to my bank, had the copy of the check notarized, and my statement showing the fee I had to pay for their error (NSF) I mailed this evidence to WebPower registered mail (yes, got a signature) and patiently waited for my $1000 payment. Needless to say, I never got it.. and LuAnn seemed to be MIA after that. I think Dom took over at that time talking to us (they used to have a live video chat room for hosts to get help) but, he was gone after a couple of years, and the next time I saw him, he was on Dr Phil trying to get help for a crack addiction. So, that would be the only time that I ever had issues with payment. One time (other than my very first check that got lost in the mail, and was overnighted to me when I called) over a course of 17 years does not make this site a rip off or criminals. As for Amanda's claims, she is the common denominator in BOTH cases. So, how does ONE host seem to have issues with management or the site and get terminated twice? Look at the source is all I am saying. I have seen her behavior since she was fighting with people in 1999 when she came on board to iFriends.

    Another thing about K ee n is that the parent company used to own NiteFlirt! They broke up when K ee n was sold to AT&T. NiteFlirt seems to work for some girls here, so you should try that site out as well, especially if you are really good at the whole worshipping fetish.

    As for what iFriends pays, they pay either 50% or 35%. 50% is paid if you take the risk of guys doing chargebacks or their funds NOT clearing. When you do a show, you can open a link that shows the amount you are accruing in real time. After you finish the show and the guy leaves, either immediately or within a few minutes, you will see a * by their $ amount that you get for the show. If you do NOT see the asterisk *, it means that they have not collected the money, and it is uncharged. You will NOT get those funds until iFriends collects them, IF they collect them. If the * doesn't appear, but a RED D does, that's not good news as that means the card was Declined. I don't think I have ever seen a Declined show get collected. Now, if you choose the 35% option, you don't have to fret over whether or not the asterisk appears - you get paid period, but, at a much lower rate. I do not get many uncollected charges or chargebacks/refunds. It may be due to the fact I talk mainly with the guys I have talked to since the 90s and they are "good for it" . LOL Oh, another thing: Not many of these members are around anymore, but, there used to be what are called Gold Members. This was thought up by some bright bulb that a guy could pay $99 and get 50% off of ANY chathosts price for LIFE. (well, the life of their credit card, and even then, they could call if the card expired and get it continued!) This promo didn't last long, but, boy did it make a lot of hosts mad. They finally had to give us the option to NOT take on Gold members. Also, if you get an account there, you may want to go in and turn off the video capture that Elite Members can see with their membership. What it will do is tape your entire (or the majority of it) show and any Elite member (or at least Elite with a FC membership, I don't know if they have changed it) can go in and view it! Also, there is an option for Elite members to press a button and record your show - I think these are all enabled and you have to turn them off. If you like being taped, well, then, go to town I guess. LOL The Fan Club has a lot of different things involved in it, and it's nice because unlike SM, you don't have to ask for it to be enabled. I still get sign ups (not sure why, I don't make movies or pics, in fact, I probably have less than a dozen nudish pics, I just never felt comfortable putting naked pics out there) to my FC and I am at the highest price - $29.99. Remember, if they join your FC, they get a discount on your show as well as if they choose the Free Fan Club option, they will get as many minutes of free video chat. So, if you charge say the $29.99 rate and your live chat is say $5 a min, they will get about 5 or 6 minutes of free show with you. But, it evens out because you get paid for the FC sign up. The one thing that I do not like about it though is that a guy can sign up and then let's say he goes MIA and doesn't come in for his "free time" but his membership keeps renewing. Well, by the time he shows up, he may have say 2 or more months of Free shows accumulated! I have had some redeem say 3 months worth of time all at once. Kind of sucks but, in reality, you did get paid months prior. I just wish the guy had to use it within 30 days or lose it.

    You will like iFriends, but, just know, it isn't SM, and the traffic is not going to be anywhere near SM or MFC unfortunately. But, it's a nice site to have as another egg in your basket!

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    So, yesterday I spent a huge portion of the day dealing with Comcast issues, and while I sat there waiting for them endlessly, I spontaneously signed up for IF. I'm not really sure why that seemed like the thing to do with my time, but now I'm signed up, lol. This site is... complicated!


    Some stuff I found interesting:

    ~ It looks like new models can use the "Standard" show mode without a waiting period, or at least they haven't stopped me from trying.

    ~ There's a mode where you can play a looped feed of your past shows, and charge for it by the minute. As a model, that seems kind of cool, but also very weird considering that playing a looped video feed is frowned on so much on other sites. I guess it's clearly noted when you enter the room that it's a video replay, so maybe that makes it ok.


    Stuff I find confusing:

    1) I'm totally confused about group vs exclusive shows. As far as I can tell, they don't have two separate modes. From poking around the site, I *think* that if you're in "Standard" mode, more than one person can enter paid chat at a time, whereas in "Free to Paid" only one person can be in there at a time. Is that correct?
    But then in the FAQ it says about "Standard" mode " Paying members in your standard session are able to take you private for some one-on-one with you." So... They have to pay per minute to get the wrapper to come off and enter your room, but once they're there they can go exclusive, too? Do they have to pay more if they do that? There's nowhere that you can specify group vs exclusive rates.

    2) I'd like to know more about the wrapper on the Standard mode. If someone starts paying you, obviously that person can see your stream clearly, but do non-paying members still see the screen with the wrapper? I'm not worried about people being able to see through the frosted wrapper, but I am concerned that everyone might be able to hear my paid session. I know men are visual creatures, but phone sex proves that they can wank to a just a voice, too.

    3) I know that all sites record our shows, but this one seems to use the recorded shows a lot, and I'm not very clear about that. There's a feature you can opt out of where custies that spend more than 5 minutes in private can choose to record the session for private viewing later - I don't think you're paid for that. I can't figure out if recordings of all your paid shows are automatically available to you for the looped video mode I mentioned, or if you have to choose to record them at the time. I'm also not sure if fan club members can see your old shows automatically, or if you can choose which ones are available.

    4) There are a LOT of Fan Club features that aren't really explained well. There is a section for videos and one for photos, but there are also "Replays," "Live Moments," "Hottest Fantasies," and "Hottest Memories," and I think all of them are different photo or video sections... or something? If you were serious about your fan club stuff, loading content seems like it would be a full time job.


    TLDR - Mainly I'd like help with #1 and #2.
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    ^I'm just taking a break from a workout so I'm just going to answer part of part 1 for now. In standard mode, you're right, more than one customer can enter paid chat, unless that member is a VIP and he can lock the session in for him alone. You don't get paid any extra for that, but the site charges the customer 6.95 for VIP privileges. This is the "hidden" charge that so many complain about in ripoff reports. It's a box you have to untick, otherwise you get the "free membership" that costs $1 and no VIP privileges. VIPs are also the only ones who can use cam2cam. Most members choose VIP and most do lock you in private. Free to private can only be entered by one member at a time, doesn't matter if they are VIP or not. It's fairly rare these days to get more than one member in paid chat on iFriends, however, no big loss.

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    You can choose to record an archive video, which is just a teaser vid available to all members, or a replay, which you can charge per minute for. They're only recorded automatically if you don't disable the Elite/Live Moments videos. I guess members can record sessions to watch later but I can't recall how to opt out of that, as it wasn't something that bothered me. It wasn't a downloadable video, just a streaming one anyway, that they could watch when logged into their account. Doesn't sound like the best business tactic, but I guess they wanted to try all the features they could to keep the guys around. Julianne mentioned the Elite videos (Live Moments) that are recorded and put in your fanclub. You can opt out of those in your fanclub settings (you're right, the site is quite complex and takes some getting used to) I believe. Last time I checked they weren't even functioning anyway. I don't think it ever was a huge draw, and they were only visible to Elite members and I think just those who were your fanclub members. The hottest moments/memories thing was a sort of lame feature where you could comment on your own photos or those of your "sexy friends" (basically just a link trade, that, offering discounts for those who are on your sexy friends list to encourage more inter-signups). No one has used it in years, really, to my knowledge. It was sort of a thing about 10 years ago.
    I'd help with #2 but honestly, my memory is shit and I just can't recall for sure. I'll leave someone who's hosted there more recently to answer that one for you. My camming hiatus makes it all a blur...

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    Once someone clicks to enter videochat and is paying you, and does NOT click to take you private blocking others making the show between you and them only no one can see or hear. Now, if the member comes into videochat and does NOT go private and you are using audio, YES, guests and other members sitting there CAN hear. The thing is, on iFriends, these guys for the most part are paying $6.95 a month to be a VIP member so they can go private and have a private experience without other guys in there shouting orders or commenting on how they "just came" to hearing your voice or looking at your FC stuff. LOL So, really, you don't have to worry too much about audio with the guests. Another really neat thing about iFriends (and I think it is available to everyone) is that when you sign in, you can check a box that BLOCKS guest chat! And it does work, unlike SMs block guest chat (I Have checked that over and over on there and still get the guests trying to order me around on there) This is a relatively new feature (maybe last 18 mos?) and is fabulous to not have to deal with non members who are time wasters. I also like that you can see what region the guys are from by clicking on their name in the member or guest box. If they are a member and visited before, you can see notes if you made any on them. They also now have this Level type of membership - Bronze Silver and Gold, and there is also info on how much they spent (on you), their activity on the site is seen in little lightning bolt type icons, their join date, and also if they are a FC member of yours. I can't remember how long Silver members are on the site, but today I had a Bronze member (at least 7 years) and Gold members are at least 15 years of activity on the site. iFriends may have a lot to navigate, but it IS easier than AW, and, they give you so much opportunity to make money with the things you can offer.

    Replays USED to be a huge money maker for the girls years ago when the site started.. I remember in the beginning, iFriends even said in their info on replays was something to the effect of, "If you are tech savvy and can figure this out.. you may want to make a replay..." Now, you could just open your room, and go to the Capture options and make a replay! They make it super easy to add content to your FC! I don't think replays are as popular or income generating as they used to be, but, they are all played on iFriends servers, so just set it up and let it run. I think they may require you to re sign in and run it again (meaning, you can't just stick a replay to go over and over for years). There is a section in the Browse that is called Replay Sessions, so the guys KNOW they are not getting a LIVE show (well, they SHOULD!) I know back in the day, you used to have to do replays by using your VCR! LOL too funny! Then again, back in those days we were all on dial up (only one girl offered a T1 line and phone) and were allowed to put our ICQ #s (a messaging/chat program) in our show descriptions because chat would crash so much! So, the guys would chat through ICQ and watch on iFriends. No audio back in those days either. Can you believe guys would pay and sit through all of that! Oh, and those ball cams that were fuzzy as heck! haha

    I think the clients taping the show are ones who are Elite members ($9.99 a month last I checked). I know very few if any who are opted in for guys to tape our shows. And, no, we don't get paid for that, iFriends does due to the monthly membership!

    IF you decide to really populate your Fan Club - YES, it CAN be a full time job. There are just so many different sections to it. BUT! It is a fabulous residual type of income. I have FC members that never come into video, but just seem to have joined and are still there years later. Most of the guys join the club though to get the discount on live videochat as well as the "free" (not really free) session for signing up. I remember when Fan Clubs first came out, many girls were doing FREE Fan Club shows in order to get sign ups. It worked well for many, as they would just do these shows, and receive the passive income it generated.

    I wish iFriends would be a force to be reckoned with again, it was such a great site in its heyday!

    Juli

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    That really explains a lot! Thank you guys!

    I had no idea that most members were being charged a monthly fee for the ability to go exclusive and cam2cam. No wonder they're having traffic issues!
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    I do pretty well on there when I log in. I only do them for splitting tho.

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    I tried out IF for the first time tonight. I really should have given it a dry run by itself to work out kinks, but I decided to jump right in and split with it with SM and KinkLive. Here's my feedback.

    The Bad:
    ~ My audio didn't work. My audio was working on the other sites, the audio setting was set to my webcam, and I hadn't muted myself. I'll have to troubleshoot this later.
    ~ Despite having a bazillion features, I can't find any indication that IF has an in-site email system. This conclusion was further supported by the fact that one guy asked for my email address. Which brings me to...
    ~ I have no idea what their policy is on providing outside contact info.
    ~ They don't use widescreen. As it turns out, I've gotten used to widescreen, and I had to be careful not to wander out of the box.
    ~ There's really not much traffic.

    The Good:
    ~ If you're using their non-encoder option (aka EasyCam), IF uses very little CPU.
    ~ The area where the guys type is really small, which means you can minimize the window down to a very tiny area. Between taking up minimal real estate on your monitor and the low CPU, that makes IF a pretty decent site for splitting.
    ~ Even without audio, I made $25, which is better than I did on KinkLive.
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