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    Default Ok so I really got tired...

    I don't even know where to start,or how to start.I feel bad ebcause I have to share this.I don't know why I even feel like this,but I just can't keep it for myself because I need advices.
    The thing is,I have been model on streamate since april.In all this time I was putting hours (I always have an average of 100-110 hours/month) and I was starting to increase on the site untill 3 weeks ago when,eveything dropped.
    And when i say dropped,i mean like BARELY 100$/week.
    Let me say about my equipment : Intel core i7 desktop system, Logitech C920 webcam , very good lights, I am using the encoder,I have professional pictures, good decors and everything it takes,except the internet.I have had this problem since the beggining.
    About my hustle/show : I am not an extreme hardcore model.I do tease in freechat,mostly typing (because when I try to talk ,it happens that all the members to not have sound lol, I smile,I dance,I sit down or lay on the bed), in private i use toys rarely,mostly I use the fingers,etc.So let's say I am kind of glamour model.
    I am in the East of Europe so I know is harder with the internet on the US servers.I am going to upgrade to some business internet contract soon because I can't take it anymore.
    My room is EMPTY! and when I say empty,it happens to be like that for entire minutes,and when a member pops in the room,it goes out quickly.
    I really don't know what happens because untill 3 weeks ago everything was fine .I mean normal, with good weeks and slow weeks.But not DEAD weeks in a row.
    I look at my stats and i have an average of 5-6 hours/day.This week,agaian 5-6 hours on cam and 35$ made all week!
    MY prices are 7,99/9.99.

    My biggest problem is that I can't check out my stream and see if everything is okay.If is loading fine and so on,because for some reason,stramate has banned some countries in the east of europe from accessing ,so i can't see myself.I have a friend from Us and i ask him to check my stream and he says all the time that everything is fine and to not worry.because is just slow.Well,it can;t be DEAd so much time
    I also mention that I work under camsharks studio.I talked to someone in there and suggested me that I don't put enough hours and I should be more trashy if i want to make money,because glamour girls dont' atract users.I take this as a bullshit because I have seen girls who make their goals ina few hours.I can't stay 10 hours online as I have school.The most I can stay is 6-8.And I don't get what they mean by more trashy. .I tried to be like that and no result,besides that is not me to be like that so I won't make money if I don't feel comfortable.
    I have on ifriends A member who is sending me tips from time to time and I also use jasmin too,but I can't depends on regulars.I want to make money on streamate because I know I used to and I want to get back to it.
    Have you girls been trough this? I became desperate.The first week I was okay,the second week I started to worry,but this week is just..WTF?
    0 traffic.
    I mention I work from 8 pm EST US time to 1-2 AM.
    Sorry I have write everything so random,I just written everything I have in mind,to not lose the ideas,also sorry for my english.Not my native language.
    I really hope the itnernet connection to be the problem,but I don't know what to say.I have had this problem since the beggining and I was still making money.
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    Default Re: Ok so I really got tired...

    Ok so I wanted to respond to this first. I have been on Streamate since December 2012. When I first started I had pretty crappy equipment (built in webcam, crappy computer). I have upgraded myself to a Cori I7, 16GB Ram, C920 Logitech webcam and so on.. I have good lighting too. I made more in the previous years with a bad feed, bad lighting etc. I can't seem to figure out what's up too. Since last week I have made about $35 as well. I have Xfinity internet with a hard wire hookup. Geeze. This site has been sucking the life out of me lately. I seriously don't understand why the sudden HUGE drop in traffic. I was watching cam girls last night in Gold Shows resetting about 3-4 times and barely making goals. You can tell with their frowns and attitudes they were getting tired of Streamate as well.

    So hang in there hun, you are not the only one going through this hell of a time with the site.

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    Default Re: Ok so I really got tired...

    From the decline from this year alone plus if you look at the past few years, I think Pay-Per-Minute Sites are dying, and I think the models that will make it through the death are the ones who offer fetishes (I'm sure not every guy wants a bunch of guys knowing he likes wearing panties and sticking objects in their ass while they moo like a cow or bark like a dog) and the ones that have a huge fan base and lots of regulars already.

    I've seen guys bitch, and call the girls a money whore because she wont accept $65 for a gold show and the fact she wants 150 is crazy. How no other job pays $65 for 10 mins etc etc I'm sure guys know that we only make 35%, but keep in mind LOTS of guys dont. They actually think we keep most if not half of the money we are making. If that was the case I'm sure lots of us would be happy accepting a $65 gold show if our cut was $32.5

    The Gold Shows were amazing when they first started, I remember seeing models reach $400 goals easily (good old days)
    I also remember the buy ins were at least $20 for a 10min show. (Considering average girls rates are at least 3.99 this was a great deal) Now gold shows are 0 dollars for 10mins.

    *RANT HERE* My biggest pet peev is watching models get pissed cause guys wont pledge $4 gold into your gold show, Well if you didnt do 0 dollar gold shows all the time they would be pledging the 4 gold, dumb dumb **END RANT* I'm not trying to offend anyone here, it is not my intention.

    The truth is guys are seeing and getting cheaper, girls panic they go cheaper, new guys join site see the cheapness and they become cheap. Cheap Cheap Cheap Cheap (making bird sounds)

    I dont think my post had a point at all sorry I guess I'm just as frustrated as you I feel like I'm watching a horse die slowly and cant do anything about it. So back on track, OP here are my suggestions
    -Your already working 6-8 hours a day so I cant suggest working more hours
    -Can you try logging in at a different time and see if it helps (I know 8pm - 2am est is great time but there are tons of girls online at that time and unless you are in the first two pages you may be screwed here)
    - I HATE SAYING THIS but maybe lower your rates by a DOLLAR and see what happens. $6.99/8.99

    Or Wait it out and hope things go back to normal.

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    My two cents: on SM the new model tag brings in customers but the tag is there for 30 days since u signed up on site, not sure if u started to work right away after u been approved or later on, this could be one of the explanations for why ur traffic dropped, might be u dont show in New models category anymore so less exposure. What is ur placement, what page u appear on when online, can ur friend tell u? To be able to check urself/ have access on site u need to do something, PM me if interested, i dont wanna post in here . I assume u work at home? Yes, your round trip is high (the ping to US servers), i am in the same region and my round trip is high too, 290-300 something. Can u upgrade internet? Not sure where u are and what u use but i know i have the best internet i can get at home for a high ish/ fair price.

    Believe me u not alone, many of us encounter this situation including myself, i have good & bad days/ weeks/ pay periods. You should not go hardcore if u feel is not ur cup of tea, i am softcore too lol, i do fetishes mostly so i get away with these kind of shows. I subscribe to what Nikki says above regarding gold shows and the type of customers they attract & all, i blame models for this same like SM site cause they came up with such feature, business simply changed for worse since gold shows, is hard to make members pay the per minute fees for pvt when there are zero GS running. I am on site before GS's came out so i know how it was before, A LOT BETTER!

    Regarding ur per min fees i consider them to be too high, maybe u just look amazingly hot, i dont know but from what i know/ see members will pay that fees for hardcore shows not vanilla/ glamour, i am at half of ur fees but i am middle age and curvy, maybe u look soo good that people will pay ur prices, dont know u and how u look, i just wish u to be aware of ur fees, they are in the high range. I dont say u not worth the prices but its important what members are willing to pay you, i know i am worth a lot more but if nobody pay that i go to the level they willing to pay me.

    Regarding the times u work, if the site is too crowded with top models and models running zero or cheap gold shows and there are many online it might happen ur placement drops due to lots of girls online so u go back on the page(s) therefore less traffic/ exposure, maybe try a different time frame and see if u do better. If ur friend is telling u ur feed is fine then u should know the issue is not the internet but the simply deadness on site, too high fees eventually & less exposure as u dont show up as a new model anymore (eventually). I myself have ups & downs, i only post when i am down lol as i dont like to post when i am up, i enjoy my good times & post when i feel i need support or to know i am not alone.

    Also, know that on SM, when u stay online for long shifts not making good money it's affecting you in a bad way, the percentage in private is very important, means making money constantly, being online for long hrs is not good if u dont make good money in that hours. SM has a hidden camscore like MFC has so the more u work, the less money u make, the lower placement goes so lower chances for privates, when u start a shift good it feels like 'all doors open up', more members come in, more pvt, bigger spenders, everything works nice and smooth, when u sink u get cheap minute men, less people in ur room, less pvt's.

    Good luck sweetie, PM me if u need the info i mentioned

    ETA: just now i am looking on site & see 'FREE SHOW' text plastered over Profile picture of a model & is not the 1st time i see this, seen that type of messages more & more often same like other 'inviting' messages of how many toys can go up an asshole. Keep in mind SM has to approve these edited profile pictures so they contribute to the new 'trend'. Go figure....
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    Default Re: Ok so I really got tired...

    AND...also remember it is Christmas Time, now. Not in the way that men are spending on families, because earnings usually increase in the fall/winter; think more of in the way that alot more girls are trying to hustle right now. On all time zones. Some girls just work to get thru times when extra money is needed, and this happens to be one of those times. More models=less of the pie sort of thing. And just remember, it will get better; it always does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPeachyNikki View Post
    From the decline from this year alone plus if you look at the past few years, I think Pay-Per-Minute Sites are dying, and I think the models that will make it through the death are the ones who offer fetishes (I'm sure not every guy wants a bunch of guys knowing he likes wearing panties and sticking objects in their ass while they moo like a cow or bark like a dog) and the ones that have a huge fan base and lots of regulars already.

    I've seen guys bitch, and call the girls a money whore because she wont accept $65 for a gold show and the fact she wants 150 is crazy. How no other job pays $65 for 10 mins etc etc I'm sure guys know that we only make 35%, but keep in mind LOTS of guys dont. They actually think we keep most if not half of the money we are making. If that was the case I'm sure lots of us would be happy accepting a $65 gold show if our cut was $32.5

    The Gold Shows were amazing when they first started, I remember seeing models reach $400 goals easily (good old days)
    I also remember the buy ins were at least $20 for a 10min show. (Considering average girls rates are at least 3.99 this was a great deal) Now gold shows are 0 dollars for 10mins.

    *RANT HERE* My biggest pet peev is watching models get pissed cause guys wont pledge $4 gold into your gold show, Well if you didnt do 0 dollar gold shows all the time they would be pledging the 4 gold, dumb dumb **END RANT* I'm not trying to offend anyone here, it is not my intention.

    The truth is guys are seeing and getting cheaper, girls panic they go cheaper, new guys join site see the cheapness and they become cheap. Cheap Cheap Cheap Cheap (making bird sounds)

    I dont think my post had a point at all sorry I guess I'm just as frustrated as you I feel like I'm watching a horse die slowly and cant do anything about it. So back on track, OP here are my suggestions
    -Your already working 6-8 hours a day so I cant suggest working more hours
    -Can you try logging in at a different time and see if it helps (I know 8pm - 2am est is great time but there are tons of girls online at that time and unless you are in the first two pages you may be screwed here)
    - I HATE SAYING THIS but maybe lower your rates by a DOLLAR and see what happens. $6.99/8.99

    Or Wait it out and hope things go back to normal.


    Thank you so much for your answer! Yes,I already had dropped my prices to 5.99/7.99 and from today I will login 3-4 hours earlier.This is all I can do for the moment.
    I need a business package internet so my bf will try to sign me a contract trough the company he works.It might cost me 150-200$/month but I don't give a damn if this is brining me money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceFun View Post
    My two cents: on SM the new model tag brings in customers but the tag is there for 30 days since u signed up on site, not sure if u started to work right away after u been approved or later on, this could be one of the explanations for why ur traffic dropped, might be u dont show in New models category anymore so less exposure. What is ur placement, what page u appear on when online, can ur friend tell u? To be able to check urself/ have access on site u need to do something, PM me if interested, i dont wanna post in here . I assume u work at home? Yes, your round trip is high (the ping to US servers), i am in the same region and my round trip is high too, 290-300 something. Can u upgrade internet? Not sure where u are and what u use but i know i have the best internet i can get at home for a high ish/ fair price.

    Believe me u not alone, many of us encounter this situation including myself, i have good & bad days/ weeks/ pay periods. You should not go hardcore if u feel is not ur cup of tea, i am softcore too lol, i do fetishes mostly so i get away with these kind of shows. I subscribe to what Nikki says above regarding gold shows and the type of customers they attract & all, i blame models for this same like SM site cause they came up with such feature, business simply changed for worse since gold shows, is hard to make members pay the per minute fees for pvt when there are zero GS running. I am on site before GS's came out so i know how it was before, A LOT BETTER!

    Regarding ur per min fees i consider them to be too high, maybe u just look amazingly hot, i dont know but from what i know/ see members will pay that fees for hardcore shows not vanilla/ glamour, i am at half of ur fees but i am middle age and curvy, maybe u look soo good that people will pay ur prices, dont know u and how u look, i just wish u to be aware of ur fees, they are in the high range. I dont say u not worth the prices but its important what members are willing to pay you, i know i am worth a lot more but if nobody pay that i go to the level they willing to pay me.

    Regarding the times u work, if the site is too crowded with top models and models running zero or cheap gold shows and there are many online it might happen ur placement drops due to lots of girls online so u go back on the page(s) therefore less traffic/ exposure, maybe try a different time frame and see if u do better. If ur friend is telling u ur feed is fine then u should know the issue is not the internet but the simply deadness on site, too high fees eventually & less exposure as u dont show up as a new model anymore (eventually). I myself have ups & downs, i only post when i am down lol as i dont like to post when i am up, i enjoy my good times & post when i feel i need support or to know i am not alone.

    Also, know that on SM, when u stay online for long shifts not making good money it's affecting you in a bad way, the percentage in private is very important, means making money constantly, being online for long hrs is not good if u dont make good money in that hours. SM has a hidden camscore like MFC has so the more u work, the less money u make, the lower placement goes so lower chances for privates, when u start a shift good it feels like 'all doors open up', more members come in, more pvt, bigger spenders, everything works nice and smooth, when u sink u get cheap minute men, less people in ur room, less pvt's.

    Good luck sweetie, PM me if u need the info i mentioned

    ETA: just now i am looking on site & see 'FREE SHOW' text plastered over Profile picture of a model & is not the 1st time i see this, seen that type of messages more & more often same like other 'inviting' messages of how many toys can go up an asshole. Keep in mind SM has to approve these edited profile pictures so they contribute to the new 'trend'. Go figure....


    Thank you Alice! My friend says ,when he checks my placement that I am somwhere between the bottom of page 1 and first rows or page 2 (depends by traffic).
    Yeah I will see what I can do..I kinda figured out that this low percentage between privates and free chat is affecting me.I probably Will try to work less hours,even i have less privates I will try to icnrease the percentage at least.And then stay more and more.
    And yes,I've dropped the prices with 2$/each.
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    Thank you girls for your messages! I wasn't excepting much for such a support!
    I am usually used to help,rather than be helped and probably that's why I was feeling a bit bad when I decided is time to write this post because I thought I could manage this by myself.
    I even tried to email Liz from streamate and she didn't answer anything.And the camsharks support's answer kinda made me throw up...what have toys and trashy attitude to do with the fact I don't have traffic? I kinda figured out that Staying lots of hours online with no traffic is affecting me.
    That's annoying.If i put less hours,then I don't make the 90 /month hours required for "excelent" tag in the ranking and again,I hate when I drops down.
    I will come up with answers if something changes.I won't give up so easily
    SO yes,I just change the hours for the moment and login earlier and dropped the prices.I will see what happens next.
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    Default Re: Ok so I really got tired...

    Honestly, it probably has nothing to do with your internet, you, your setup, etc. In my day job/business, I am making half of what I made in previous years, which is why I am highly considering camming. I think it has to do with economy. I'm not sure about the economy in Europe, but it does depend on the types of cam customers and where they are from. My regular business has dropped since summer time, definitely. But I have noticed over 2014, that my business is half of what it used to be, which really sucks.

    For you, all I can suggest (since I really don't have a lot of experience camming yet) is to keep it up. Show the guys you're there. Or possibly get more sites to work on, if you're only on one site. Start making clips, etc.

    Anyhoo, I hope things pick up for you. It is scary owning your own business and sometimes business is up and sometimes it's down. I just have to remember to tell myself that when I'm getting nervous.

    Good luck!

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    I'll check your feed for you whenever you like, just PM me. I'm usually perving on SM at night and work during the day.

    I don't have much advice but apart from the prices --I say don't go down-- change the hustle. You should try talking. Guys love that wonderful European accent and you have wonderful English, you're funny and have lots of vocabulary, it might be stupid but that helps ME, guys don't expect me to have good English as I'm not a native.
    I've tried to hustle typing and it just doesn't work for me. I've noticed I really reel them in with the voice and the teasing. (and like someone else said, if they don't have audio, they're not worth it )

    I'm sure there's something you can switch around so it all starts flowing again. Hugs and keep changing it up! <3

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    You dont need to do that hours OMG, that is just a SM trick to make girls work more lol, if u do less hrs a month & have a higher percentage in pvt then u better than lots of hrs online with low percentage in pvt. That 90 hrs mean nothing actually, u can work 40-50 hr a month and do better than working 100+ and do poorly.

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    Default Re: Ok so I really got tired...

    I had the same issue this summer with my round trip being in the 3-400 range which put me on page 2. I was using wifi so I switched to hard wired it fixed everything. Are you using an Ethernet?

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    No,I am not using wi fi.I use internet with fiber optics cable.
    Thanks girls for all your advices.Yesterday I didn't go on cam as I was in one of theese month days and also my mood was low.So i will start from tonight with another scheldue.
    Yes I am splitcamming with ifriends and jasmin.Sometimes I open up imlive.The problem is that my internet can't handle so many sites.Even I have a great computer.
    But I will figure out and see what happens.
    PS: thanks for those who offered to check my stream.Means a lot.
    Actually someone sent me a pm with a way to see the site and the other models and it works perfectly.Thanks girls!!!!!
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    Would it be ok if you posted how you checked yourself on streamate? I am in a country that is sort of blocked by SM as well. I cant check my own stream.
    I've just upgraded my cam, hoping that it'll bring in more traffic for me. But like you, it has always been like that for me on SM, max 2 guests in my room, and pvts few and far apart. I really hope the economy don't bail on me coz I just started camming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ylenafoxxy View Post
    Would it be ok if you posted how you checked yourself on streamate? I am in a country that is sort of blocked by SM as well. I cant check my own stream.
    I've just upgraded my cam, hoping that it'll bring in more traffic for me. But like you, it has always been like that for me on SM, max 2 guests in my room, and pvts few and far apart. I really hope the economy don't bail on me coz I just started camming.
    If you blocked your country you can use web proxy (it makes your computer uses IP of a server in a different country)
    Google free web proxy, pick something, there will be a field for an URL, put your feeds url in there.
    Make sure you untick blocking flash and scripts at the top of the page some proxies block them by default
    And puff! You see your feed

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