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    Default Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    I am wondering is it possible for a man to be raped? Shia LaBeouf claims he was raped at his art exhibit http://www.people.com/article/shia-l...s-he-was-raped. He seems like a nutjob but regardless if he was raped I do feel bad for him and hope she gets punished. I don't really hear too many stories of men being raped by a woman forcing them to do vaginal sex.

    Like how can a man get hard if he doesn't want sex? Wouldnt he be limp?
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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    Men can get raped but his story does not make sense at all. I commented on an article about it, here it is:

    "Men can be raped too but I'm having a hard time believing this attention seeking weirdo who has a history of sexual misconduct. Whipped his legs for 10 min? And he didn't yell for help? None of the people he claimed was waiting outside his door heard anything? What kind of celebrity has private meetings with fans?? Isn't that dangerous for the celebrity?? The only reason I can think of why his own girlfriend was waiting in line to meet him was to surprise him, he didn't know she was coming, he was caught and now he is claiming rape. SMH"

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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    a man can absolutely be raped by a woman..there was a thread on a man who was raped in his sleep by a woman not long ago. i guess sometimes physical stimulation is all it takes to get it hard a lot of times, or there are other ways to rape a man.
    haven't followed the whole shia thing though so can't comment on that.

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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    Agreed jojo.

    A man can certainly be raped. A guy cannot always control the pure physical reaction of a penis to certain stimuli, but that doesn't mean that he consented to it.

    But in the case of this guy, I'm not buying. Not just because of his sordid history of problems and attention seeking behavior, but because his story does not make sense. She whipped his legs for 10 minutes and he could do nothing about it? Nobody heard anything for all that time? Were his hands tied down? More likely, IMHO, that she made the move and he decided to get laid. However, this story works better both for his GF, who was waiting in line, and for its publicity value.

    Quite conveniently for all concerned, she "ran off" so no charges could be filed. Seriously now, this was a public event. There were plenty of witnesses around and also plenty of cameras to be sure, not only at this venue but, I am sure, on the surrounding buildings. I have no doubt that the perp could be found if an effort was made, but I also have no doubt that Shia LaBeouf has no real interest in that happening or else he would have been at the police station soon after.

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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    you might want to check out !

    Indeed, 'equal treatment' assures that men can potentially level rape charges against women. From the viewpoint of SW readers, this has a potential very negative implication for 'Sugar Babies'.

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    Absolutely men can be raped, this one wasn't.
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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    Shia seems to be deep in a period of dubious choices and bad behavior. My guesses 1) he got caught messing around & dismissed it as a "rape" 2) was too high/intoxicated to stop a real assault by a female 3) made it up for publicity and 4) staged it for reasons unknown...????

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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    I think it's definitely possible for men to be raped. And erection doesn't signal consent-- women have gotten wet and had orgasms while being raped. And besides, men get them all the time, not just when sexual activity has been initiated. My boyfriend and I were talking about ordering delivery last night and bam, there was one. Another one when we were playfighting in bed this morning, he's randomly gotten them on the tube, at a restaraunt, I never know when it will pop up.

    However in this case I believe it's a load of bollocks. If he didn't tell her no, push her away, cry for help, any of the 3-- how was she supposed to know he didn't want to have sex when he has a sign hanging around his neck saying "do whatever you want to me"? That's assuming that he didn't just wholeheartedly get it on the with this woman. And why is he just bringing it up now, more than six months after the fact?

    I don't doubt him because he's a man, I would question any woman's story just as much if the details surrounding it is were as murky and quite frankly, bizarre.

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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    First thing you have to do is define what you mean by "rape".

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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    ^^^ that's a real problem. And that problem is made even worse by the passage of these new 'rape by fraud' laws. As discussed in my link above, a number of states have passed / are passing laws which redefine as legal 'rape' the obtaining of consent to sex for 'fraudulent' reasons. As cited in the link story, it is now possible ( in certain US states ) for a girl to bring 'rape by fraud' charges against a guy who lied to her about being a graduate of a presigious college, having a high paying job, being the beneficiary of a trust fund, etc. as a ( fraudulent ) contributing factor in her decision to consent to sex. Along similar lines, it is also now possible ( in certain US states ) for an unhappy Sugar Daddy to bring 'rape by fraud' charges against a former Sugar Baby.

    Pure speculation in regard to Shia is that his 'business advisors' recommended going on record with a 'rape' accusation. If the girl turns up pregnant ( by her own intention ), having a 'rape' accusation on record could save him 18-21 years worth of VERY expensive child support payments.
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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    Crimes are defined by statute, and the definitions change. Under our old statutes rape could only be committed by a man acting on a woman not his wife.

    “Art. 1183. [1063] [633] [528] "Rape".-Rape is the carnal
    knowledge of a woman without her consent obtained by
    force, threats or fraud; or the carnal knowledge of a woman
    other than the wife of the person having such carnal knowledge
    with or without consent and with or without the use of force,
    threats or fraud, such woman being so mentally diseased at the
    time as to have no will to oppose the act of carnal knowledge,
    the person having carnal knowledge of her knowing her to be so
    mentally diseased; or the carnal knowledge of a female under
    the age of eighteen years other than the wife of the person with
    or without her consent and with or without the use of force,
    threats or fraud; provided that if she is fifteen years of age or
    over the defendant may show in consent cases she was not of
    previous chaste character as a defense. “

    Our current statutes do not even have a crime called “rape”.

    Other definitions:

    “Art. 1184. [1064] [634] [529] "Force".-The definition of
    "force" as applicable to assault and battery applies also to rape,
    and it must have been such as might reasonably be supposed
    sufficient to overcome resistance, taking into consideration the
    relative strength of the parties and other circumstances of the
    case.
    Art. 1185. [1065] [635] [530] "Threat". - The threat
    must be such as might reasonably create a just fear of death or
    great bodily harm, in view of the relative condition of the parties
    as to health, strength and other circumstances of the case.
    Art. 1186. [1066] [636] [531] "Fraud"-The fraud must
    consist in the use of some stratagem by which the woman is
    induced to believe the man is her husband, or in administering
    without her knowledge or consent some substance producing
    unnatural sexual desire or such stupor as prevents or weakens
    resistance and committing the offense while she is under the
    influence of such substance. It is a presumption of law which
    can not be rebutted by testimony that no consent was given
    under the circumstances set out in this article.”
    Last edited by slowpoke; 12-01-2014 at 08:50 AM.

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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    Have you heard of prison? Child molesters? Men and boys are raped just as much - if not more - than women are. Rape is a human issue. Women are not special victims of rape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightGoddess View Post
    Have you heard of prison? Child molesters? Men and boys are raped just as much - if not more - than women are. Rape is a human issue. Women are not special victims of rape.
    No I know rape occurs in prison. Which is why I would never wash my ass or drop the soap if I landed in prison. I know a man can be raped if something is forced in his mouth or anus but what I didn't know was that their dick could get hard if they didn't want sex.

    You guys responses have clarified this plus I ask my guy friend if men can get raped by a woman even if they don't want sex/not attracted to the woman he said men's penises are very sensitive and rape could happen especially if his hands are tied and the woman sucks his penis to erection.

    If Shia LaBoeuf is lying to cover is ass then he is pitiful and making it worse for men who have really suffered from being raped.
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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    also .. boy parts are not only basically mechanical when it comes to stimulation, but when sleeping and in a state or REM there is a erection automatically too as the body's way of preventing bathroom related accidents. Things clamp down with women too, but its obviously not noticeable like it would be on " outie parts"

    but yes men can be raped, nor is rape limited to penetration and such, basically any forcing yourself upon another against their will counts so there may be alot of different forms of it, but the end result is the same, men can rape men, women can rape men, and all vice versa. There is also alot of cases of marital rape too that go both ways as well .
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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    BTW he might have been digitally raped (finger insertion.) Not all assaults are always penis-goes-in-vagina

    & I am embarrassed to admit I think I "raped" one of my ex-lovers. He was upset at me and limp as a doll, but had an erection. I went for it and forgot all about his unhappy body language. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    I am embarrassed to admit I think I "raped" one of my ex-lovers. He was upset at me and limp as a doll, but had an erection. I went for it and forgot all about his unhappy body language. Oh well.
    This whole thing made me wonder if I ever raped any dudes I had in the past. Up until now I always assumed if the man was hard then he wanted it or that if he didn't want it then his dick wouldn't get hard. I see now this is not always the case.

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    If you're interested in statement analysis (figuring out if someone is lying) these might interest you:

    http://statement-analysis.blogspot.c...ouf-raped.html

    http://statement-analysis.blogspot.c...aborators.html

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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    One of my exes was drugged with valium and viagra by a woman.

    It's sad that this question is even asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackra View Post
    One of my exes was drugged with valium and viagra by a woman.

    It's sad that this question is even asked.
    Thats horrible your ex was drugged by unsavory women. Obviously if someone drugs another person to increase chances of getting laid then thats not consent.

    When I asked the question I was thinking about normal adults and both parties being sober. Maybe the question I asked was ignorant or offensive then I apologize but I'd rather ask a question and enlighten myself then to stay ignorant.

    But who knows Shia or the woman in the room with him could have been intoxicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackra View Post
    One of my exes was drugged with valium and viagra by a woman.

    It's sad that this question is even asked.
    This reminds me of Orson in Desperate Housewives.
    There is also an old Law & Order: SVU episode about a male stripper getting gang raped at a bachelorette party.

    I know those are fiction but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Like how can a man get hard if he doesn't want sex? Wouldnt he be limp?
    That's ridiculous, the dick works automatically, we have zero control over whether an erection happens or not.
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    Tangental info- there is a great episode of "Chicago Hope" about male on male sexual assault. I saw it as a teen & it has always stuck with me as the 1st time I really considered how rape can be as bad for a man as it is for a woman. Check it out on Hulu if you are able to...

    Also I hate to say it but after re-reading Shia's statements I am thinking he made it up & might be going the way of Ed Furlong or Brad Renfro (rip.)

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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    Can a man be raped: hell yes. The male body responds just as the female body does to sexual contact, regardless of whether or not said sexual contact is welcome; & just as the body's responses to welcome advances can vary, so do its responses to unwelcome advances.

    I haven't read any of the linked articles abt his situation, so I don't really have any thoughts on his statements in particular, but I think his case deserves to be thoroughly investigated, just like any other report. If it ends up being a made-up charge, then he needs to be dealt w/ just like any other person, male or female, who files a false report, bc those who file false reports of rape are a huge part of the reason genuine cases are brushed off. But if it turns out that he was actually attacked, then his attacker needs to be made to answer for what they did to him.

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    Default Re: Can a man be raped? Is Shia LaBeouf for real?

    Yes, men can be raped. Keep in mind, they can also be raped anally, by either women or men.

    I'm a bit surprised that anyone is providing an opinion on whether this complete stranger was raped or not based on...what? Some 'facts' we read in the news?

    I'm also very surprised to hear people using Shia's criminal and sexual history to dismiss his rape accusation. These are the same weapons used against women who have been raped.

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    I was referring to some disturbing and well-publicized incidents where it seems that Shia is struggling with addiction issues- that can cause someone's life to be a dark and confusing place. I am not judging. I hope he will clarify some of these statements & also seek the help he needs.

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